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Wiirdo
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#1
I'm just really posting a couple of guides that I think could help people. I also want people to post some guides here to help and we could make quite a big thread.

Legend: Tips are Royal Blue.

SECTIONS


MARKETING PLANS

No Money Music Marketing Plan
The $52.45 Music Marketing Plan
Expanding Your Street Team -Self-explanatory.

GIG GUIDES


How can I record my live gigs? -VERY useful if you want to video webcast.
GetGigs.com -Gig resource. Not sure how useful it is though.
10 Ways To Get People to go To Your Next Gig
Gig Survival Guide

LICENSING

YouLicense License your music and get it placed in media.
Mechanical Licensing - Their brochure download on that page is a good run-down of how it all works.
Music Licensing
Canada's Copyright Act

INTERNET

Top 6 File-Hosting Sites -Upload your songs/whatever here.
TubeMogul -Lets you upload your music videos to over 15 video hosting sites at once.

RECORDING

Home Recording Guide
6 Stereo Miking Techniques You Can Use Today
RecordingProject - a smaller community with some very knowledgeable people about recording. Very nice folks there. Because it is smaller, you don't have as many idiots running around starting flame wars. Pipelineaudio has worked with Sheryl Crow, Megadeth, Gin Blossoms, etc.
www.homerecording.com/bbs - Similar to above, but much bigger. More people available to help, but also more prodding, flaming, random nonesense, etc. Still very good though.
http://www.prosoundweb.com/ - Steve Albini (producer of Nevermind) hangs out there, as do many other industry pros. Lots of great reading, but being pros, they aren't always as tolerant of people who want to engage in discussion who don't know what they're talking about.
10 Affordable Mics For The Home Studio -Describes what each of them does. Helpful if you're gonna go shopping.
http://www.recordingmag.com/index.html - A very good magazine written in a way that the newb recording enthusiast and the intermediate recording types can both gain a lot from it. Reviews from Samson and Behringer to SSL and Neumann; articles on recording, mixing, mic placement, guitar tone, etc.
10 Signs Your Track Is Amateur


GENERAL

100 Free & Affordable High & Low Tech Music Promotion Tips -Helpful enough.
Know The Music Biz Wiki -Great resource.
Band Flyer Maker -For those not gifted in Photoshop.
Indie Band Survival Guide
Music Definitions
Music Is My Business -A pretty general guide Really.
10 Music Business Survival tips
Guitar Glen

These are some I found that could really help people.


If this got big I could format it and shizz.

NOTE
I know it's missing some vital headings, but I can add them in later.
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"... wtf"
Last edited by Wiirdo at Jan 15, 2009,
af_the_fragile
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#2
decent post...

I'll wait for the more experienced guys in here to approve this and then i could maybe add my 2 cents!

But marketing is the key to getting your band popular.
The more you can promote and market your band, the more popular it'll get, the more it'll sell.
Wiirdo
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#3
Quote by af_the_fragile
decent post...

I'll wait for the more experienced guys in here to approve this and then i could maybe add my 2 cents!

But marketing is the key to getting your band popular.
The more you can promote and market your band, the more popular it'll get, the more it'll sell.


I'll probably update it later with some of my own writing in addition to the links.
Quote by HuckIt
I didn't find it that funny when I saw myself doing him in missionary position...

Quote by Oblivion_Rps
I was having sex with a female dolphin. In the dream I was like:
"YEEEEEEEAAAARGH I'M SCREWIN' A FEMALE DOLPHIN!!!" and when I woke up I was like:
"... wtf"
kaptink
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#4
Since I don't know a better place to share this I'll put this here

band flyer maker

a little flash program to create band flyers for people not gifted with photoshop. I managed to get some cool stuff by playing around with it.
Wiirdo
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#5
Quote by kaptink
Since I don't know a better place to share this I'll put this here

band flyer maker

a little flash program to create band flyers for people not gifted with photoshop. I managed to get some cool stuff by playing around with it.


Added. I also added a couple links.
Quote by HuckIt
I didn't find it that funny when I saw myself doing him in missionary position...

Quote by Oblivion_Rps
I was having sex with a female dolphin. In the dream I was like:
"YEEEEEEEAAAARGH I'M SCREWIN' A FEMALE DOLPHIN!!!" and when I woke up I was like:
"... wtf"
SlackerBabbath
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Quote by af_the_fragile
decent post...

I'll wait for the more experienced guys in here to approve this and then i could maybe add my 2 cents!

It all seems to be in good order, although some of it is obviously someone advertising their services, but the offered advice in all of those seems to be sound enough.

Approved!
af_the_fragile
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#10
Cool, then!

I guess the TS should organise the 1st post a little better, categorising them and giving little descriptions and maybe we could look to sticky this as a Marketing and useful links thread.

Cuz this really is a major aspect of making your band bigger...
Wiirdo
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Quote by SlackerBabbath
It all seems to be in good order, although some of it is obviously someone advertising their services, but the offered advice in all of those seems to be sound enough.

Approved!


Thanks. I just hope you don't think it's me that's advertising. I found these sites through Stumbleupon.
Quote by HuckIt
I didn't find it that funny when I saw myself doing him in missionary position...

Quote by Oblivion_Rps
I was having sex with a female dolphin. In the dream I was like:
"YEEEEEEEAAAARGH I'M SCREWIN' A FEMALE DOLPHIN!!!" and when I woke up I was like:
"... wtf"
SlackerBabbath
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#12
Quote by Wiirdo
Thanks. I just hope you don't think it's me that's advertising. I found these sites through Stumbleupon.

Nah, I was referring to the sites themselves.
Wiirdo
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#13
Quote by SlackerBabbath
Nah, I was referring to the sites themselves.


Also, got any more helpful links?
Quote by HuckIt
I didn't find it that funny when I saw myself doing him in missionary position...

Quote by Oblivion_Rps
I was having sex with a female dolphin. In the dream I was like:
"YEEEEEEEAAAARGH I'M SCREWIN' A FEMALE DOLPHIN!!!" and when I woke up I was like:
"... wtf"
SlackerBabbath
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#14
Quote by Wiirdo
Also, got any more helpful links?


Yeah, https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=56

I know it sounds slightly sarcastic but it's not meant to be. It's actualy one of the best sources of helpful band advice I've ever seen. And I'm not just saying that because I post on it either, there are many people here who actualy specialise in many different aspects of being a musician such as axmanchris for example who specialises in recording studios as well as being a very experienced musician in his own right.

To be honest though, I've never really looked for this kinda thing on the net so I don't really have any useful links to hand, but I will cirtainly keep my eyes open for some for inclusion here.
Being from an older generation, (pre-internet) I kinda got used to just relying on my local circle of musicians whenever I needed advice. Basicaly that means goin' down the pub and asking my buddies.
Last edited by SlackerBabbath at Sep 11, 2008,
Wiirdo
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Quote by SlackerBabbath
Yeah, https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=56

I know it sounds slightly sarcastic but it's not meant to be. It's actualy one of the best sources of helpful band advice I've ever seen. And I'm not just saying that because I post on it either, there are many people here who actualy specialise in many different aspects of being a musician such as axmanchris for example who specialises in recording studios as well as being a very experienced musician in his own right.


I don't think I need to add that one.

If you want you could contribute stuff to it, or may I ask for permission to copy some of your posts into this? (Pay-To-Play etc.)
Quote by HuckIt
I didn't find it that funny when I saw myself doing him in missionary position...

Quote by Oblivion_Rps
I was having sex with a female dolphin. In the dream I was like:
"YEEEEEEEAAAARGH I'M SCREWIN' A FEMALE DOLPHIN!!!" and when I woke up I was like:
"... wtf"
SlackerBabbath
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#16
Quote by Wiirdo
I don't think I need to add that one.

If you want you could contribute stuff to it, or may I ask for permission to copy some of your posts into this? (Pay-To-Play etc.)


You cirtainly have my permission, you didn't need to ask really, but I appreciate your politeness.

GuitarKid61791
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#17
Great post thanks

EDIT: If anybody else tries to do this and uses the audiblehype marketing guide, if you get it to work could you help me cause I don't know what I did wrong. I did everything that the site says but I can't even get my blogspot site to show up in google.
Last edited by GuitarKid61791 at Sep 11, 2008,
af_the_fragile
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#20
Ya know TS,
You could keep the first post for just links n stuff.
Then if any of us want to add any tips n all to the thread, we can post it in here in the blue font, separating the "tips" posts from the other posts.
So if anyone comes in to look for certain tips on certain topics, they could browse through the blue posts and find what they're looking for...
axemanchris
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#21
The best single source for music biz info I have ever come across....

http://www.amazon.com/Breaking-Into-Music-Business-Revised/dp/0671729071

I've read it cover to cover... at least twice.

It's not so much about marketing specifically, but about running your band as a succcessful business, and how to gain access to the channels that are out there.

HIGHLY recommended.

Recording:

www.recordingproject.com - a smaller community with some very knowledgeable people about recording. Very nice folks there. Because it is smaller, you don't have as many idiots running around starting flame wars. Pipelineaudio has worked with Sheryl Crow, Megadeth, Gin Blossoms, etc.

www.homerecording.com/bbs - Similar to above, but much bigger. More people available to help, but also more prodding, flaming, random nonesense, etc. Still very good though.

And if you're into lurking and reading complicated stuff by pros...

http://www.prosoundweb.com/ - Steve Albini (producer of Nevermind) hangs out there, as do many other industry pros. Lots of great reading, but being pros, they aren't always as tolerant of people who want to engage in discussion who don't know what they're talking about.

http://www.recordingmag.com/index.html - A very good magazine written in a way that the newb recording enthusiast and the intermediate recording types can both gain a lot from it. Reviews from Samson and Behringer to SSL and Neumann; articles on recording, mixing, mic placement, guitar tone, etc.

I'm sure I have a couple more on line sources.... lemme see what I can find.

CT
Could I get some more talent in the monitors, please?

I know it sounds crazy, but try to learn to inhale your voice. www.thebelcantotechnique.com

Chris is the king of relating music things to other objects in real life.
axemanchris
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#22
http://www.cmrra.ca/Mechanical_Licensing/mechanical_licensing.html - Their brochure download on that page is a good run-down of how it all works.

http://www.socan.ca/jsp/en/about/faq/licensors.jsp - Music licencing.

http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/C-42/index.html - Canada's Copyright Act

http://www.music.gc.ca/index_e.asp - just found this now, but it looks good.

http://www.saskrecording.ca/FAQ/index.html - I'm not from Saskatchewan either, but some good info there.

CT
Could I get some more talent in the monitors, please?

I know it sounds crazy, but try to learn to inhale your voice. www.thebelcantotechnique.com

Chris is the king of relating music things to other objects in real life.
Highwaytohell
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#23
You guys are going to kill me....

I HAVE SO MUCH STUFF TO READ UP ON NOW!!!!
so much promotion and marketing and this and that...
Well I signed up to rock, might as well work hard for it
sprkidjar
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#24
Quote by axemanchris
The best single source for music biz info I have ever come across....

http://www.amazon.com/Breaking-Into-Music-Business-Revised/dp/0671729071

I've read it cover to cover... at least twice.

It's not so much about marketing specifically, but about running your band as a succcessful business, and how to gain access to the channels that are out there.

CT


i love the review on that book
axemanchris
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#25
Hrm... yeah..... I like my review better.

CT
Could I get some more talent in the monitors, please?

I know it sounds crazy, but try to learn to inhale your voice. www.thebelcantotechnique.com

Chris is the king of relating music things to other objects in real life.
axemanchris
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#27
Another great resource:

http://www.taxi.com/resources.html

Now, if you get Recording Magazine (linked above) they have a regular feature, called the A+R insider, where they feature a Taxi interview with a real-life A+R person and ask them questions about how they look at the industry, what they want from artists, how to get labels and A+R reps to notice you, etc. That single article alone is often worth the price of your subscription. Some of these are real big-shot A+R types too, like John Kolodner, who was Aerosmith's A+R rep.

CT
Could I get some more talent in the monitors, please?

I know it sounds crazy, but try to learn to inhale your voice. www.thebelcantotechnique.com

Chris is the king of relating music things to other objects in real life.
Wiirdo
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#28
Quote by af_the_fragile
Ya know TS,
You could keep the first post for just links n stuff.
Then if any of us want to add any tips n all to the thread, we can post it in here in the blue font, separating the "tips" posts from the other posts.
So if anyone comes in to look for certain tips on certain topics, they could browse through the blue posts and find what they're looking for...


Good idea.
Quote by HuckIt
I didn't find it that funny when I saw myself doing him in missionary position...

Quote by Oblivion_Rps
I was having sex with a female dolphin. In the dream I was like:
"YEEEEEEEAAAARGH I'M SCREWIN' A FEMALE DOLPHIN!!!" and when I woke up I was like:
"... wtf"
af_the_fragile
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Hell guys, thats a lot of stuff to read from...
Maybe someone could like summarise the links and kind of rate them as to how informative/helpful they're and not.

Maybe the guys who've read the content of the links can do it...

OH and here's a link that may or may not help:
http://creativecommons.org/about/
http://creativecommons.org/license/

They're a non-profit organisation that distributes different type of copyright licenses for you music. So you can get copyright licenses for your stuff from these guys. They're the ones NIN got their copyright license for their latest album "The Slip" from.
Last edited by af_the_fragile at Sep 12, 2008,
axemanchris
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#30
Important to realize that CC allows others to redistribute your work without your permission...

CT
Could I get some more talent in the monitors, please?

I know it sounds crazy, but try to learn to inhale your voice. www.thebelcantotechnique.com

Chris is the king of relating music things to other objects in real life.
netvalar
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#32
Great list I see a few things I should take a closer look at here.

Though I wanted to stop by and thank you for adding my street team post to this list. Granted it isn't complete and I would love any additions that the musicians here think should be added.

I also want to say that in todays world it is more how you customize the options thrown your way then it is trying to do everything suggested. For instance my list of street team members, maybe only 2 or 3 of those things works for you. Or with the example of squidoo maybe something doesn't sound right at this time due to lack of enough information, leave it for now and move on to what will work for you.

I'll stop by from time to time to see if anyone has ideas of anything to add to that list or you can just leave a comment on the post.
Wiirdo
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#33
Added a couple of links.
Quote by HuckIt
I didn't find it that funny when I saw myself doing him in missionary position...

Quote by Oblivion_Rps
I was having sex with a female dolphin. In the dream I was like:
"YEEEEEEEAAAARGH I'M SCREWIN' A FEMALE DOLPHIN!!!" and when I woke up I was like:
"... wtf"
netvalar
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#35
http://www.Tubemogul.com

My contribution to your list here. Tubemogul allows you to upload your music videos to over 15 video hosting sites at once. For my review of the site

http://blog.timelineonline.org/2008/07/tolkien-and-tubemogul-4-video-tips-too.html

which led to my alpha version of "Start A Video Strategy" E-Report

http://e-reports.timelineonline.org/start_a_video_strategy.pdf

O.K. couple of links in this reply the only one I think should be added to your list is Tubemogul.com
bluesrocker101
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#37
What a nifty thread that I was unaware of. Stickied.
DANNY

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Helloween_rox
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#39
This'll definitely come in handy when I start playing gigs, even before hand.
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#40
Very convenient! None of us have to use our own creativity to get ppl to our shows now! THANK GOD FOR OTHER PEOPLE! :P But really, cheers for the extra info!
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