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#1
Who else here keeps seeing his commercials? I really do not understand why he thinks that we should care about his opinion at all. Especially considering the fact that he used to be in oil. I personally don't trust someone who was involved with oil to get us off of oil.
#2
I agree with everything the man says. There needs to be a public outcry for this. He has the money and he's stepping up to the plate. I, for one, welcome it.
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#4
Quite a Texas oil name I must say, T Boone Pickens.
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I agree with everything the man says. There needs to be a public outcry for this. He has the money and he's stepping up to the plate. I, for one, welcome it.

He supports offshore drillig, which wont make a difference at all..
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Honestly.
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#8
Have any of you naysayers actually read his plan?

Or seen the commercial where he talks about using natural gas to break our oil habit untill h-cells and biofuels are developed enough to be viable.
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Not to mention the greatest name I've ever heard.



dude seriously haha
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Have any of you naysayers actually read his plan?

Or seen the commercial where he talks about using natural gas to break our oil habit untill h-cells and biofuels are developed enough to be viable.

Yes, and i agreed with that. However, i'm not quite sure why he thinks that his opinion is anything special or anything new.
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When my sister and I saw that commercial we ****ing fell out on the floor.


That indeed is one of the funniest names I've ever heard.
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Yes, and i agreed with that. However, i'm not quite sure why he thinks that his opinion is anything special or anything new.



because he is actually taking his opinion and doing something about it.

read this


http://www.pickensplan.com/theplan/
#13
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because he is actually taking his opinion and doing something about it.

read this


http://www.pickensplan.com/theplan/

He is not the first to advertise ideas about alternative energies on tv. Either the government doesn't notice, or more likely doesn't care.
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He is not the first to advertise ideas about alternative energies on tv. Either the government doesn't notice, or more likely doesn't care.



No no, he is investing something like 1.2 billion dollars of his own money into developing the worlds largest wind power farm. he is also developing a lot of natural gas resources, again mostly using his own money. His goal is to replace 1/3 of our nations foreign oil imports with his energy plan within 10 years.
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No no, he is investing something like 1.2 billion dollars of his own money into developing the worlds largest wind power farm. he is also developing a lot of natural gas resources, again mostly using his own money. His goal is to replace 1/3 of our nations foreign oil imports with his energy plan within 10 years.

Oh, well I guess it would have helped if I read the link, haha. That's pretty cool, then. I thought he was just spouting off his opinion, but at least he is actually active about it.
#16
He was in oil when gas prices and global warming weren't such huge issues. It's ignorant to not trust him because he used to be in oil.
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#17
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He is not the first to advertise ideas about alternative energies on tv. Either the government doesn't notice, or more likely doesn't care.


That may be true, but he has the money. The Government should step out because they'll just screw it up. Americans need to start doing things on their own and not always expect the government to do something for them.

Common and basic equation.

Government+action= major screwup.
#18
he was on commercials in florida, i have no idea who he is but his name is mad funny
#19
It's ignorant to not trust him because he used to be in oil.

So it is ignorant to think that someone who once served a paticular interest won't continue doing that? I don't think so.



That may be true, but he has the money. The Government should step out because they'll just screw it up. Americans need to start doing things on their own and not always expect the government to do something for them.


Getting off oil will take a lot more then just personal vigilance.
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Quite a Texas oil name I must say, T Boone Pickens.


He is actually from Oklahoma. He has pretty much built OSU's football stadium on his own funding. He is probably the richest dude in Oklahoma the man shits money.
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Yes, and i agreed with that. However, i'm not quite sure why he thinks that his opinion is anything special or anything new.


He doesn't he is just getting everything out to the public and trying to be an activist.
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#22
From what I understand, he stands to make huge profits off of his alternate plans. So yeah, they may be a step in the right direction (I don't know, I haven't looked into them much), but don't think he's doing it purely out of the good in his heart. When alternate fuels start taking over, everyone in oil is gonna be looking for a way in to keep their profits, and I would imagine Pickens is trying to beat them to it.

Which doesn't mean he can't help us at the same time either.
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From what I understand, he stands to make huge profits off of his alternate plans. So yeah, they may be a step in the right direction (I don't know, I haven't looked into them much), but don't think he's doing it purely out of the good in his heart. When alternate fuels start taking over, everyone in oil is gonna be looking for a way in to keep their profits, and I would imagine Pickens is trying to beat them to it.

Which doesn't mean he can't help us at the same time either.


Yeah if he is helping us who gives a shit why? I mean honestly are you gonna deny someone stopping a murderer if they make money off of it? No
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So it is ignorant to think that someone who once served a paticular interest won't continue doing that? I don't think so.


He's obviously not planning on giving out his ideas for free. But are you really not going to support someone's ideas just because they aren't willing to pay for tons of nation-wide commercials, a website, and anything else he needs to do to publish or promote his plan without getting a little something in return?

We've all probably seen "There Will Be Blood," and I'm sure there are more than a few corporate devils in the oil industry, but just because he was an oil man doesn't mean he's satan's child and is planning on somehow dooming the world with an energy plan.
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#25
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I agree with everything the man says. There needs to be a public outcry for this. He has the money and he's stepping up to the plate. I, for one, welcome it.



I agree, hes taking the initiative and stepping up to say something. I like his non-partisan approach and I trust his views because he was in oil. He knows what hes talking about. He has a plan to stop the problems and I for one think that that is highly commendable.
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From what I understand, he stands to make huge profits off of his alternate plans. So yeah, they may be a step in the right direction (I don't know, I haven't looked into them much), but don't think he's doing it purely out of the good in his heart. When alternate fuels start taking over, everyone in oil is gonna be looking for a way in to keep their profits, and I would imagine Pickens is trying to beat them to it.

Which doesn't mean he can't help us at the same time either.



Well, frankly if he gets 33% of our energy use off of oil and onto helioelectric and natural gas power within 10 years, he probably deserves most of the money he would win off of that.

I am just hoping that that would start a new tendency towards independence from oil.
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He's obviously not planning on giving out his ideas for free. But are you really not going to support someone's ideas just because they aren't willing to pay for tons of nation-wide commercials, a website, and anything else he needs to do to publish or promote his plan without getting a little something in return?

We've all probably seen "There Will Be Blood," and I'm sure there are more than a few corporate devils in the oil industry, but just because he was an oil man doesn't mean he's satan's child and is planning on somehow dooming the world with an energy plan.


Dude I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he was planning on actually paying for everything on his own. He is a pretty cool guy from everything I hear. My dad met him and he is like the nicest dude ever and like just gives his money away. He does like his name to be on the stuff he buys though but that is understandable.
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"Click here to tell your Member of Congress to join with T. Boone Pickens and his army of supporters in calling for an Energy Independence Plan to be enacted within the first 100 days of the new administration."

http://www.pickensplan.com/theplan/


check it out everyone.
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Especially considering the fact that he used to be in oil. I personally don't trust someone who was involved with oil to get us off of oil.


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What?!?

So I guess you drive a car that runs on water?

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I would if I had a choice


As would I, but it's obvious you don't understand his agenda. He is supporting oil to lower gas prices while researching alterative fueling.
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As would I, but it's obvious you don't understand his agenda. He is supporting oil to lower gas prices while researching alterative fueling.



I directed him to the pickens' plan website.

He is pushing for wind and natural gas power more than the oil anyway.


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As would I, but it's obvious you don't understand his agenda. He is supporting oil to lower gas prices while researching alterative fueling.

Except offshore drilling won't lower gas prices. It will just keep our focus on oil when we could have it on something else.
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Except offshore drilling won't lower gas prices. It will just keep our focus on oil when we could have it on something else.


You also obviously have no concept of economics. When big oil sees that we have domestic resources, gas prices will drop. Trust me
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i saw his commercials several times.. only thoughtss.... who the **** is this ?



He is a dude who is investing something like 1.2 billion of his own dollars in order to develop the worlds largest wind farm in Texas. He is also developing natural gas both for energy and for transportation. Part of his plan is this:

Building new wind generation facilities and better utilizing our natural gas resources can replace more than one-third of our foreign oil imports in 10 years. But it will take leadership.



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You also obviously have no concept of economics. When big oil sees that we have domestic resources, gas prices will drop. Trust me



This is just wrong. We get something like 70% of our oil from foreign sources. It would take such a long time to even make a slight dent in that percentage that it is just not worth it. Especially when the money that would go towards the new drilling could be used for alternative sources. That way, in the long run, we could end up relying on our own energy, instead of importing it.

Besides we already have domestic resources. Have you ever seen a map of the Gulf of Mexico that shows where the oil platforms and refineries are?
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#38
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He is actually from Oklahoma. He has pretty much built OSU's football stadium on his own funding. He is probably the richest dude in Oklahoma the man shits money.


He was born in Oklahoma, but lived in my hometown of Amarillo, Texas.
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You also obviously have no concept of economics. When big oil sees that we have domestic resources, gas prices will drop. Trust me


Taken from here

"analysts say that renewed offshore drilling would have little impact on gas prices anytime soon. It would take at least a decade for oil companies to obtain permits, procure equipment, and do the exploration necessary to get the oil out of the ground, most industry analysts say. And even then, they add, the amount of new oil produced would probably be too small to significantly affect world oil prices."

And this

" 'Suppose the US produced all its oil domestically," said Robert Kaufmann, director of the Center for Energy and Environmental Studies at Boston University. "Do you think oil companies would sell oil to US consumers for one cent less than they could get from French consumers? No. Where oil comes from has no effect on price.' And there is not likely to be enough new American oil to make much of a difference, Kaufmann and others said. About 86 billion barrels of additional oil may lie offshore, according to the US government's Energy Information Administration. Of that amount, about 18 billion barrels are subject to the moratorium. Much of the rest lies in areas that are too expensive to exploit or that oil companies have not yet tapped for technical reasons, fueling the industry's desire for fresh territory."
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He was born in Oklahoma, but lived in my hometown of Amarillo, Texas.



WHAT!!????

You are from Amarillo?!

I never thought I would find another Amarillian on UG. Dude, I lived in Wolflin for like 12 years!
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