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I love how the term 'hockey mom' was non existent before Palin. My two cents.
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Matt Damon is such a dude

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I love how the term 'hockey mom' was non existent before Palin. My two cents.


soccer moms FTW
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I really, REALLY want to know if she thinks dinosaurs were here 4,000 years ago

haha

Matt Damon rules.
#6
It's so embarrassing when anybody in holywood tries to talk about things that are important.
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haha

Matt Damon rules.


lol i could imagine her ending the world on a power trip in her power suit and power heels
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Even though I agree with him, this is not a wise career move.


EDIT: wait...dinosaurs? Only 4000 years ago?
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Even though I agree with him, this is not a wise career move.


EDIT: wait...dinosaurs? Only 4000 years ago?


yeah he will be another gina whatshername from thelma and louise or the jane fonda. mind you it never did marlon brando too much harm,
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I love how the term 'hockey mom' was non existent before Palin. My two cents.


Except... not?

It's a Canadian thing, really. But Alaska obviously shares quite a bit.
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Props to him, I think more people need to stand up to the fact that someone with such retarded views shouldn't be allowed to represent a country.
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Props to him, I think more people need to stand up to the fact that someone with such retarded views shouldn't be allowed to represent a country.

+1 most people dont have the balls
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The first half of what he said could be turned around on Obama as well. He has zero experience, like Palin, but if elected he WOULD be President. And if some moron assassinates him ****ing Biden would be.
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It's so embarrassing when anybody in holywood tries to talk about things that are important.


Like when he says "I think she was chosen for political reasons"

...

Well, of course she was Matt. It's... politics.

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Props to him, I think more people need to stand up to the fact that someone with such retarded views shouldn't be allowed to represent a country.



That takes no balls... What are you talking about? For either side that is... We all know most actors are liberals anyway so who didn't expect this?
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Even though I agree with him, this is not a wise career move.


EDIT: wait...dinosaurs? Only 4000 years ago?
1) Like Damon needs to worry about his career. He's one of the most revered actors in Hollywood and has the Oscars to prove it. I think it's pretty safe to say he's got more than enough money to retire if he needed to, and besides, if Tom Cruise (and a whole array of celebs) can go all out Scientology I don't think Damon's little blurb of common sense is going to do a damned thing.

2) The dinosaur thing is regarding Palin's extreme right-wing religious views. It's well known that she wants creationism and intelligent design taught in public school science classes. Many people who are such devout orthodox Christian believe that the world is around 6,000 years old because of a literal interpretation of Genesis.
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The first half of what he said could be turned around on Obama as well. He has zero experience, like Palin, but if elected he WOULD be President. And if some moron assassinates him ****ing Biden would be.
Biden has served on the US senate since 1973. Giving him 35 years "in Washington". He's by far one of the most experienced politicians that the democrats could pick from and I have no doubt that's one of the reasons Obama chose him. To counteract the Republicans "Obama is inexperienced" attacks. If Obama died or had to take medical leave the President position would be filled by someone extremely experienced.

McCain on the other hand chose someone even less experienced than Obama. It's rather hilarious in my opinion because it nullified all attacks by the republicans that Obama is inexperienced.

Oh and BTW - for what it's worth I don't support Obama. If anything I'm independent but my views lean towards Libertarian. The Democrats are far too socialist for me and the Republicans are far too conservative.
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That takes no balls... What are you talking about? For either side that is... We all know most actors are liberals anyway so who didn't expect this?

Why do people throw the word "liberal" around like it's an insult?
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Why do people throw the word "liberal" around like it's an insult?
The same reason people throw "conservative" or "right-wing" or "religious nutball" around like it's an insult. It's political bigotry.
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Why do people throw the word "liberal" around like it's an insult?


Liberalism is a mental disorder!!!!!!!!!
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1) Like Damon needs to worry about his career. He's one of the most revered actors in Hollywood and has the Oscars to prove it. I think it's pretty safe to say he's got more than enough money to retire if he needed to, and besides, if Tom Cruise (and a whole array of celebs) can go all out Scientology I don't think Damon's little blurb of common sense is going to do a damned thing.

2) The dinosaur thing is regarding Palin's extreme right-wing religious views. It's well known that she wants creationism and intelligent design taught in public school science classes. Many people who are such devout orthodox Christian believe that the world is around 6,000 years old because of a literal interpretation of Genesis.



I'm Catholic and I beleive in dinosaurs are older than 4k or 6k years old. I hate being accused that I don't!

We can carbon date them way back before then...
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I'm Catholic and I beleive in dinosaurs are older than 4k or 6k years old. I hate being accused that I don't!

We can carbon date them way back before then...
As with all stereotyping it's rarely accurate on an individual basis.

People look at the actions of large groups of idiots to form their opinions. Usually they're a very vocal minority but they ruin it for everyone because ignorant people don't have much else to base their opinion on. In an ideal world every atheist would attend church and read the Bible before publicly decrying the religion, and subsequently all of it's followers, but as we all know it never works that way.
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I found the video humourous. I agree with the dude's concerns and think he has a valid reason to be worried. He seems like a fairly intelligent guy...

I'd rather fuck Ben Affleck though.
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Ok, so I read the transcipt because my video is not working... And apparently he said it's a scary thing if she becomes president because he doesn't know who she is.

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Ok, so I read the transcipt because my video is not working... And apparently he said it's a scary thing if she becomes president because he doesn't know who she is.

What I took from it is that his point is that pretty much NO ONE knows who she is ... and that's extremely important in a republic because members of office are elected peers who are appointed to represent us. Putting someone in office who no one knows is absurd.

This reminds me of the George Michaels case where he publicly accused a police officer of homophobia and entrapment. The police officer sued him for defamation but the judge ruled that the officer is a public figure and the public has every right to know everything about him because his job is to serve the public. That and truth is a defense in libel / defamation cases in the US.
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What I took from it is that his point is that pretty much NO ONE knows who she is ... and that's extremely important in a republic because members of office are elected peers who are appointed to represent us. Putting someone in office who no one knows is absurd.

This reminds me of the George Michaels case where he publicly accused a police officer of homophobia and entrapment. The police officer sued him for defamation but the judge ruled that the officer is a public figure and the public has every right to know everything about him because his job is to serve the public. That and truth is a defense in libel / defamation cases in the US.



It's not her fault, she IS the govener of a US state, just one of the remote ones that no one really cares about. It shouldn't matter, but let's get to know her and her qualifications. She is the voice for many Americans and she has an %80 approval rating in Alaska, the highest out of ANY govener.
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It's not her fault, she IS the govener of a US state, just one of the remote ones that no one really cares about. It shouldn't matter, but let's get to know her and her qualifications. She is the voice for many Americans and she has an %80 approval rating in Alaska, the highest out of ANY govener.
I don't really have a personal opinion ... as you know I'm not even American (though I do conduct business in the US and I live in one of the busiest border towns in Canada / US so the outcome of the election does affect me directly) but I think that many people feel that she only represents a very small, remote portion of the population.

As people keep bringing up, she was mayor of an extremely small town ... then became governor of the most remote state next to Hawaii, with a population of 683,478 according to Wikipedia. The estimated total population of the USA is 305,106,000. To put it slightly differently, Palin has represented %0.22 of the US for a term less than 2 years. Does she really speak for ALL Americans ? Can she really claim to represent the entire USA and relate to the general population and share their interests ?

Now, you can attack Obama for being inexperienced, and I think you'd make an excellent point (I don't even support Obama as I said above) ... but at least Obama has served in the Senate, representing a state that's much closer to home for the vast majority of Americans and has a population of 12,852,548 (almost 19 TIMES the population of Alaska), and has served in that position twice as long.

So I tend to agree with a lot of people who consider this whole Palin thing to be one big joke. Who the hell is this woman ? What has she done for the US and what will she do as VP ? How the hell is she going to manage the actual President's position if McCain gets sick or dies ? I agree with Damon that it's a pretty scary (and as a Canadian, downright funny) prospect.
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What I took from it is that his point is that pretty much NO ONE knows who she is ... and that's extremely important in a republic because members of office are elected peers who are appointed to represent us. Putting someone in office who no one knows is absurd.


Oh come on! 19 months ago no one new obama. Fact is MOST of our presidents are not well known nationally before they get in office. So what are you saying? We should only elect rock stars and actors. No thanks...................well maybe Ted Nugent.
And BTW Clinton, Carter, Reagan and others had only been Govs before getting elected. Palin( who isnt running for pres. btw) has also been a Gov. Governors actually are in an executive position i.e. they make decisions. And fwiw, by the time Palin is in office.......everyone on the planet will know her. Following your logic, thats really the only qualification necessary anyway! Right?
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Oh come on! 19 months ago no one new obama. Fact is MOST of our presidents are not well known nationally before they get in office. So what are you saying? We should only elect rock stars and actors. No thanks...................well maybe Ted Nugent.
And BTW Clinton, Carter, Reagan and others had only been Govs before getting elected. Palin( who isnt running for pres. btw) has also been a Gov. Governors actually are in an executive position i.e. they make decisions. And fwiw, by the time Palin is in office.......everyone on the planet will know her. Following your logic, thats really the only qualification necessary anyway! Right?
That's some fairly exaggerated extrapolation on your part. I certainly said nothing about the list of qualifications necessary for the position.

You also misinterpreted my meaning of the word "know". By "know" I didn't mean household name. I meant a person who has an extensive track record that can be looked up by anyone who is interested. Who can stand up and give the country a long list of "good things" they've done for the country. Any candidate needs to be able to do that and I don't think Palin qualifies. Yes she is governor of Alaska, but I don't think that really means much to the vast majority of Americans. See my response to JDawg for the reasons why.

McCain certainly does qualify. He's got one of the biggest track records of all. Far more than Obama. Pitty I don't support a lot of his positions ... but then I don't support many of Obama's either. Which is why I'm independent.
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Whatever you think of Matt Damon, I ****ing hate Sarah Palin.
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I don't really have a personal opinion ... as you know I'm not even American (though I do conduct business in the US and I live in one of the busiest border towns in Canada / US so the outcome of the election does affect me directly) but I think that many people feel that she only represents a very small, remote portion of the population.

As people keep bringing up, she was mayor of an extremely small town ... then became governor of the most remote state next to Hawaii, with a population of 683,478 according to Wikipedia. The estimated total population of the USA is 305,106,000. To put it slightly differently, Palin has represented %0.22 of the US for a term less than 2 years. Does she really speak for ALL Americans ? Can she really claim to represent the entire USA and relate to the general population and share their interests ?

Now, you can attack Obama for being inexperienced, and I think you'd make an excellent point (I don't even support Obama as I said above) ... but at least Obama has served in the Senate, representing a state that's much closer to home for the vast majority of Americans and has a population of 12,852,548 (almost 19 TIMES the population of Alaska), and has served in that position twice as long.

So I tend to agree with a lot of people who consider this whole Palin thing to be one big joke. Who the hell is this woman ? What has she done for the US and what will she do as VP ? How the hell is she going to manage the actual President's position if McCain gets sick or dies ? I agree with Damon that it's a pretty scary (and as a Canadian, downright funny) prospect.


I would rather see someone who has a complete disconnect from Washington get into the Whitehouse. She's not just another lying politician like Biden, Obama, or McCain. I think thats the Change that most peoeple want...

EDIT: You were for Ron Paul weren't you? I can tell...
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EDIT: You were for Ron Paul weren't you? I can tell...
No. I tend to lean towards Libertarian but there are a lot of faults to be had with a strict Libertarian policy (though the same can be said of anything I guess). Republicans are far too conservative for me (and most are too religious but I admit that has most to do with individuals and almost nothing to do with the party ... it's correlation != causation) and Democrats are too socialist.

I would create a new party that incorporates the best of all parties. Take Republicans conservative views on small government and low taxes and couple it with Democrats and Libertarians views on personal freedom and liberty.
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That's some fairly exaggerated extrapolation on your part. I certainly said nothing about the list of qualifications necessary for the position.

You also misinterpreted my meaning of the word "know". By "know" I didn't mean household name. I meant a person who has an extensive track record that can be looked up by anyone who is interested. Who can stand up and give the country a long list of "good things" they've done for the country. Any candidate needs to be able to do that and I don't think Palin qualifies. Yes she is governor of Alaska, but I don't think that really means much to the vast majority of Americans. See my response to JDawg for the reasons why.

McCain certainly does qualify. He's got one of the biggest track records of all. Far more than Obama. Pitty I don't support a lot of his positions ... but then I don't support many of Obama's either. Which is why I'm independent.


(throttles back)....Yes it was, my bad.

(Bill Clinton voice) "It depends on what your definition of "know" is". I knew what you meant, I just get fired up when people slam one candidate for inexperience, but act like its a non issue for their candidate. And that road goes both ways. As far as track records, only Mccain and Biden really have one. And while past performance can be an indication, its still no gaurantee of future performance. Once someone sits in that big leather chair behind that shiny mahogany desk and thinks" I'm the president of the MF United States" who knows how that'll affect them. I still remember " Read my lips, no new taxes"........ thanks GB.

Like you, there are things I like and dislike about both. I'm more of a slightly right leaning Libertarian. I want government to just back off and quit trying to regulate every minute of my life.
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