#1
Hi UG,

I own a line 6 siperIII 15X amp i only bought it due to the effects but it can get LOUD
i was wondering you guys' viewpoints on line 6's series
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#2
if u did a search, u would see that we all HATE line 6 and marshal MGs
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dud dud dud dud dud - as you can see in my sig, i have one...well had one...sold it because it was so bad, now i dunno how to change my sig
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#4
The general consensus here is that the Line 6 Spider III series is a piece of crap, and that you shouldn't buy any that are over 30 (or was it 20?) watts. So basically, everyone will say to stay away from.

My opinion? I don't own one, but from what I've tried and heard, they're a suitable amp for bedroom, band practice and maybe the smaller gigs. But you can do much better.

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#5
line 6....u either love em or hate em ..kinda like jeff gordon
but i love them..
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The general consensus here is that the Line 6 Spider III series is a piece of crap, and that you shouldn't buy any that are over 30 (or was it 20?) watts. So basically, everyone will say to stay away from.


wrong.. u shouldnt buy ANY of em !
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wrong.. u shouldnt buy ANY of em !

wrong.

for bedroom practice at low volumes it does the job well.
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Yeah. people, like Lemoninfluence, are hypocrites and should have all their opinions invalidated from here on out.
#9
I own a Spider II - 75 watts. I think it does a pretty decent job. I gig with it but I'm aiming to get a better amp in the future. I've had the line 6 a couple of years so feel it is time for a change. I'd only heard good things until I came on to UG. I think it is as dreams broken said: 'you either love 'em or hate 'em.'
#10
Honestly, none of you people understand that it doesn't matter if the general consensus says the Spider III amps suck. All that matters is what an individual likes and decides to buy. Your opinion will differ than that of another person. Some people believe the Spider III is a decent line of amps, some believe they suck. I personally don't like them at all, but I'm going to sit here telling people they're wrong for buying one.
#11
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wrong.

for bedroom practice at low volumes it does the job well.

Wrong.

Many other amps in the same price do it better.
#12
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Wrong.

Many other amps in the same price do it better.

how does that negate the fact that it does the job well?

for a beginner/bedroom guitarist it'll do 90% of the stuff they want it to do.

that's like saying high end Fender/gibson/jackson aren't good guitars because for the same price you could get a custom made luthier model made exactly to your specs.
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#13
Quote by magvol
wrong.. u shouldnt buy ANY of em !



Wrong.


Vetta/Flextone series have proved to be good amps.

It's mainly the spider series that is shunned upon.

Way to jump on the line 6 hate wagon.
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how does that negate the fact that it does the job well?

for a beginner/bedroom guitarist it'll do 90% of the stuff they want it to do.

that's like saying high end Fender/gibson/jackson aren't good guitars because for the same price you could get a custom made luthier model made exactly to your specs.

Arguable
Sure high-end Fender/Gibson/Jackson guitars are great, but why buy them when you can get something better for the same price?
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Wrong.


Vetta/Flextone series have proved to be good amps.

It's mainly the spider series that is shunned upon.

Way to jump on the line 6 hate wagon.

Jesus I hate it when people do this. Have you tried a Flextone/Vetta? I'm going to tell you right now the answer is NO.

Way to jump on the Line 6 defending bandwagon.
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Arguable
Sure high-end Fender/Gibson/Jackson guitars are great, but why buy them when you can get something better for the same price?

Jesus I hate it when people do this. Have you tried a Flextone/Vetta? I'm going to tell you right now the answer is NO.

Way to jump on the Line 6 defending bandwagon.



For you to jump to the conclusion that i've never tried one is actually very funny considering the fact it's my next buy for a practice amp and I have tried it.

Oh btw from what i recall a couple of big artists use the Vetta II.
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#16
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Hi UG,

I own a line 6 siperIII 15X amp i only bought it due to the effects but it can get LOUD
i was wondering you guys' viewpoints on line 6's series


These kids all hate the Line 6 saying it sounds like a "computer". But if you like it, and you feel like it's loud enough good for you. Personally I think the Spider II 150w 2x12 combo was actually quite a nice amp.

The Spider III's though are just attracting a bunch of people who don't want to dial in their own sound and would rather just sound like Slipknot. Or at least that's how I feel.
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#17
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Sure high-end Fender/Gibson/Jackson guitars are great, but why buy them when you can get something better for the same price?


because it's convenient,

Way to jump on the Line 6 defending bandwagon.


oh lawd i lol'd.

there isn't a bandwagon for defending line 6, there's just a group of people who are sick of others bashing line6 completely. have you tried the vetta?

I know I haven't. haven't seen them about to try them. the flextone is the amp that the guitar shop I go to has setup for you to mess about on and they manage to get some nice tones out of it. it's nowhere near the quality of a quality tube amp, but then again it doesn't cost as much. while it's nowhere near a great amp, it's also nowhere near a bad amp.

stop writing off a whole company because of popular opinion on this website. and the spider does the job of getting a good approximation of quite a few tones. and it does this for not much money.

it's not the best, but it's not the worst. stop making out as if it is.
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because it's convenient,


oh lawd i lol'd.

there isn't a bandwagon for defending line 6, there's just a group of people who are sick of others bashing line6 completely. have you tried the vetta?

I know I haven't. haven't seen them about to try them. the flextone is the amp that the guitar shop I go to has setup for you to mess about on and they manage to get some nice tones out of it. it's nowhere near the quality of a quality tube amp, but then again it doesn't cost as much. while it's nowhere near a great amp, it's also nowhere near a bad amp.

stop writing off a whole company because of popular opinion on this website. and the spider does the job of getting a good approximation of quite a few tones. and it does this for not much money.

it's not the best, but it's not the worst. stop making out as if it is.



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#19
I've never played a Line 6 Spider III. I don't know what they sound like.

But I do know that they are words that you NEVER mention on these forums unless you want to be flamed to ashes. =]
#20
I bought a Line 6 Spider III 75W as my first amp. Now that I've been playing a while my ear is hearing the computerized amp, not the guitar. My question is what AFFORDABLE tube amp could I buy that would be ok for a small room that I play in? The guys at Guitarcenter told me they would take the Spider on trade and I really want to hear the warm tones of a tube.
#21
I played the flextone II or III, can't remember, but it very good and versatile. But again, it was used and $400. I can find a lot of better amps for that money that would suit me. Another player may like the versatility over a "one trick wonder". I tend to go for the one trick ponies, but others don't have that option. Especially younger "tone experimenting" players on more of a budget.
#22
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I bought a Line 6 Spider III 75W as my first amp. Now that I've been playing a while my ear is hearing the computerized amp, not the guitar. My question is what AFFORDABLE tube amp could I buy that would be ok for a small room that I play in? The guys at Guitarcenter told me they would take the Spider on trade and I really want to hear the warm tones of a tube.

You're kinda kijacking the TS's thread here. Start a thread and include, budget, music styles you play, whether or not you jam with a drummer or just bedroom practice, what part of the world you live in and if you would consider used gear. Thanks.

Sry for the double post.
#23
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because it's convenient,


oh lawd i lol'd.

there isn't a bandwagon for defending line 6, there's just a group of people who are sick of others bashing line6 completely. have you tried the vetta?

I know I haven't. haven't seen them about to try them. the flextone is the amp that the guitar shop I go to has setup for you to mess about on and they manage to get some nice tones out of it. it's nowhere near the quality of a quality tube amp, but then again it doesn't cost as much. while it's nowhere near a great amp, it's also nowhere near a bad amp.

stop writing off a whole company because of popular opinion on this website. and the spider does the job of getting a good approximation of quite a few tones. and it does this for not much money.

it's not the best, but it's not the worst. stop making out as if it is.


QUESTION: When did I say they were the worst? When did I write them off? I'm just sick of noobs who read someone's comment defending Line 6 and pretty much quote them saying 'DUD LINE 6 IS NT JST SPIDERS DER IS VETTA AND FLEXTONE 2'', without actually actually having prior experience of either amp. There is definitely a bandwagon there.

For the record I have tried the Vetta and the Flextone, and the Vetta is a great amp. Don't get me wrong. I also think it's funny how most of the people who defend them never mention the HD147, probably because the original poster of the comment didn't mention it.

You can buy plenty tube amps for the price of a Flextone.
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QUESTION: When did I say they were the worst? When did I write them off? I'm just sick of noobs who read someone's comment defending Line 6 and pretty much quote them saying 'DUD LINE 6 IS NT JST SPIDERS DER IS VETTA AND FLEXTONE 2'', without actually actually having prior experience of either amp. There is definitely a bandwagon there.

For the record I have tried the Vetta and the Flextone, and the Vetta is a great amp. Don't get me wrong. I also think it's funny how most of the people who defend them never mention the HD147, probably because the original poster of the comment didn't mention it.

You can buy plenty tube amps for the price of a Flextone.



lol, so what if I didn't mention the HD147. Fact of the matter is Vetta/Flextone AND THE HD147 are good amps from Line 6. Not everything from Line 6 is bad.
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lol, so what if I didn't mention the HD147. Fact of the matter is Vetta/Flextone AND THE HD147 are good amps from Line 6. Not everything from Line 6 is bad.

No shit, that's not my point though.
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No shit, that's not my point though.



I don't care, you tried to pass me off as if I was wrong. You attack me for saying line 6, vetta blah blah blah, but not the one who says all Line 6 suck?
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I don't care, you tried to pass me off as if I was wrong. You attack me for saying line 6, vetta blah blah blah, but not the one who says all Line 6 suck?

Sorry but, start making sense?
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QUESTION: When did I say they were the worst? When did I write them off?


you implied it by saying 'wrong' to my post refuting that they're all bad amps.

I'm just sick of noobs who read someone's comment defending Line 6 and pretty much quote them saying 'DUD LINE 6 IS NT JST SPIDERS DER IS VETTA AND FLEXTONE 2'', without actually actually having prior experience of either amp. There is definitely a bandwagon there.


if anything there's more of a bandwagon the other way. do you really think that all the people who bash the spider have played it?

You can buy plenty tube amps for the price of a Flextone.

only the lower end amps or used ones. and if you're going used you could always go used for a flextone meaning it's price is lower again. so that argument is flawed. why compare new price to used price?

not to mention that having a tube amp for bedroom practice is often a waste, as you don't get the best out of a tube amp at low volumes. add in the fact that the spider and other line 6 amps have built in effects and amp models and it becomes a viable choice for the bedroom guitarist who wants to play along to his favourite tracks or even just for practice.

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Sorry but, start making sense?

he is, you just aren't comprehending it.

you've got double standards, you don't oppose the anti line6 bandwagon yet you have a problem with people defending them?
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Sorry but, start making sense?



Sorry, but it makes enough sense to understand.

You tried to pass me off as wrong for saying that not all Line 6 amps are bad and the vetta/flextone series are good. Then you say im jumping on the "line 6 defending band wagon"


But the person who says all line 6 are bad you don't say anything in regards to him.

Lemoninfluence understands what i'm saying, but for some reason you can't.
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you implied it by saying 'wrong' to my post refuting that they're all bad amps.


if anything there's more of a bandwagon the other way. do you really think that all the people who bash the spider have played it?


only the lower end amps or used ones. and if you're going used you could always go used for a flextone meaning it's price is lower again. so that argument is flawed. why compare new price to used price?

not to mention that having a tube amp for bedroom practice is often a waste, as you don't get the best out of a tube amp at low volumes. add in the fact that the spider and other line 6 amps have built in effects and amp models and it becomes a viable choice for the bedroom guitarist who wants to play along to his favourite tracks or even just for practice.


he is, you just aren't comprehending it.

you've got double standards, you don't oppose the anti line6 bandwagon yet you have a problem with people defending them?


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#32
The Spider series are okay but not great amps.
The Flextone series are pretty nice.
I own a nice tube amp and would still like to put a Vetta 2 next to it.
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I agree with the above statement. ^

Thank you, Lemoninfluence, for having my back.
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#34
Horlicks, you will find absoloutely anything to bitch about seriously, stop being a prick for the hell of it, it doesnt get you anywhere, at all.

The point is, people diss line 6 as a whole brand, when the spiders are the only ones worth worrying about, so somebody just calmly pointed out that theyve heard positive things about the vetta and flextone amps, and the general consenses is that theyre decent amps, no reason for you to wet yourself.

No I havent tried either, but I dont give a wank myself, i've heard from UG theyre good amps and from other people, and if somone sat their and cried that line 6 where shit in general then i'd do the same and point it out.

Theres nothing wrong with buying a low wattage spider just for practice if you didnt know any better, yeah you couldve done better, but pretty much everyone probably couldve done better the first time the bought gear unless they lived their life on UG. The only issue is, when youve asked for advice on UG and ignored it. Otherwise, enjoy your amp, if you liked it at the shop, itll last you untill the time comes that you want to pick up a new amp.
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Horlicks, you will find absoloutely anything to bitch about seriously, stop being a prick for the hell of it, it doesnt get you anywhere, at all.

The point is, people diss line 6 as a whole brand, when the spiders are the only ones worth worrying about, so somebody just calmly pointed out that theyve heard positive things about the vetta and flextone amps, and the general consenses is that theyre decent amps, no reason for you to wet yourself.

No I havent tried either, but I dont give a wank myself, i've heard from UG theyre good amps and from other people, and if somone sat their and cried that line 6 where shit in general then i'd do the same and point it out.

Theres nothing wrong with buying a low wattage spider just for practice if you didnt know any better, yeah you couldve done better, but pretty much everyone probably couldve done better the first time the bought gear unless they lived their life on UG. The only issue is, when youve asked for advice on UG and ignored it. Otherwise, enjoy your amp, if you liked it at the shop, itll last you untill the time comes that you want to pick up a new amp.


Thx u helped but its not like it was my first gear my gear is awful.
im a pretty good guitarist
just my mom and dad hate me sumtimes lol when i get in trouble
they wont buy me anything
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#36
^get a job so you can make your own money and buy whatever.

when i first read this thread i told myself NOT to respond. This thread is essentially dead. If you like it that is all that matters.

We've all been there. Make that money now and put it to use 'cause soon your paychecks will be toward paying bills and guess what - it doesn't make buying gear any easier. It is all relative.

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