#1
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1755308063891566837&vt=lf&hl=en

Meet the scientific prophets who claim we are on the verge of creating a new type of human - a human v2.0.

It's predicted that by 2029 computer intelligence will equal the power of the human brain. Some believe this will revolutionise humanity - we will be able to download our minds to computers extending our lives indefinitely. Others fear this will lead to oblivion by giving rise to destructive ultra intelligent machines.

One thing they all agree on is that the coming of this moment - and whatever it brings - is inevitable.

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Scary shit.....discuss.
#2
We'll I hope after my body dies, they can jack my mind into some virtual heaven or virtual mmorpg. It's better than just being.. dead.
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#4
i wonder if they could put my mind into a hot girls body so i could look at myself
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#6
It will be just like in the movies...

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#7
Doesn't matter, the world ends in 2012 anyway, it's a well known fact.

[/sarcasm]

But I remember reading about this regarding video games, and they were saying something about far in the future of gaming, we may be able to create games that are real life simulations; you can touch, feel and do everything like real life... which scared the hell out of me.
What if this life is a simulation, and we are just the AI for some random kid? What if "real" mankind reached this point a long time ago, and now we aren't real?



I don't actually know much about computers and stuff, so don't flame me if I'm all wrong...
I'll try and find the link if anyone's interested.
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#8
oh my gosh... that rat was fat...
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#11
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Doesn't matter, the world ends in 2012 anyway, it's a well known fact.

[/sarcasm]

But I remember reading about this regarding video games, and they were saying something about far in the future of gaming, we may be able to create games that are real life simulations; you can touch, feel and do everything like real life... which scared the hell out of me.
What if this life is a simulation, and we are just the AI for some random kid? What if "real" mankind reached this point a long time ago, and now we aren't real?



and different "dimensions" are just other games that other people are playing.
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#12
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and different "dimensions" are just other games that other people are playing.


And I have all the cheat codes, you losers.
#13
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We'll I hope after my body dies, they can jack my mind into some virtual heaven or virtual mmorpg. It's better than just being.. dead.

You might go into the real heaven :P

And.... computers are more intelligent than most people nowadas anyway
#14
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#15
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You might go into the real heaven :P



Funny thing about that is....
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#17
Computers have efficiency well beyond humans, but not intelligence. We manipulate them into doing tasks for us. In my oppinion, having the idea that we'll be integrating computers into our bodies within 21 years is insane. Yes the technology has grown by leaps and bounds from the 1950's to the 2000's but that's because the technology was in its infancy when it began. Look at the automobile's history. It was revolutionary when it came out, and only got better as the years went on. But now that its the 2000's how much better off or different are we than in the mid 1900's? The engine hasn't changed a whole lot, and looking at how technology has evolved for humankind, I doubt the computer will evolve that quickly either.
mmmmmmhmmm

That's exactly what I've been trying to say.

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#18
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Computers have efficiency well beyond humans, but not intelligence. We manipulate them into doing tasks for us. In my oppinion, having the idea that we'll be integrating computers into our bodies within 21 years is insane. Yes the technology has grown by leaps and bounds from the 1950's to the 2000's but that's because the technology was in its infancy when it began. Look at the automobile's history. It was revolutionary when it came out, and only got better as the years went on. But now that its the 2000's how much better off or different are we than in the mid 1900's? The engine hasn't changed a whole lot, and looking at how technology has evolved for humankind, I doubt the computer will evolve that quickly either.


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#19
Quote by HardAttack
Computers have efficiency well beyond humans, but not intelligence. We manipulate them into doing tasks for us. In my oppinion, having the idea that we'll be integrating computers into our bodies within 21 years is insane. Yes the technology has grown by leaps and bounds from the 1950's to the 2000's but that's because the technology was in its infancy when it began. Look at the automobile's history. It was revolutionary when it came out, and only got better as the years went on. But now that its the 2000's how much better off or different are we than in the mid 1900's? The engine hasn't changed a whole lot, and looking at how technology has evolved for humankind, I doubt the computer will evolve that quickly either.


Wrong. Cars have come a long way in the past 10 years and they will go a long way in the next. There are so many more safety measures in a vehicle these days. Plus we've already integrating with tech. They have limbs and mouse cursors that move based on thought
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#20
As long as we don't create true AI, we'll be fine.
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#21
Quote by mulletboy14
Doesn't matter, the world ends in 2012 anyway, it's a well known fact.

[/sarcasm]

But I remember reading about this regarding video games, and they were saying something about far in the future of gaming, we may be able to create games that are real life simulations; you can touch, feel and do everything like real life... which scared the hell out of me.
What if this life is a simulation, and we are just the AI for some random kid? What if "real" mankind reached this point a long time ago, and now we aren't real?



I don't actually know much about computers and stuff, so don't flame me if I'm all wrong...
I'll try and find the link if anyone's interested.


Star Ocean 3's plot is alot like this.. oops spoilers.

But i believe this is actually true.. However idc, i feel therefore i exist, regardless of if i am truly "real" or just AI, i have a mind, artificial or otherwise, it's who i am so whatever. Yknow.
#22
so if they can send pleasure to a rat with a click of a button... can they do the pleasure of sex for a human with a click of a button? You just log on your computer and click orgasm button, there goes porn business?
#25
I reckon it'll probably take longer than this. Computers are still incredibly stupid in comparison to us, as anyone studying computer programming will tell you. They can only do what we tell them and we have to tell them everything in incredible detail.
I'm doing psychology with a minor in programming and my aim at some point may be to help programmers teach computers to think more like humans, then we may have our human v2.0
Either way I'm going to be involved in this happening. It'll take longer than 20 years though, we don't know enough about the human brain yet, it's pretty complex and because of ethical issues we can't do the really useful research that would tell us more (ie cut a part of a persons brain out and see what happens) so we have to rely on quasi experimentation (wait for a part of someone's brain to shut down itself through stroke etc and see what happens) which takes considerably longer.
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#26
unplug the computers
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#27
That stuff on animals was very disturbing. Makes me wonder when they'll start trying it on humans...
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#28
I hope this happens, so they can jack my mind into computer games when my body dies. Real life WoW, Dawn of War and Counter Strike? Sure!

...If only.
#29
hah that guy makes keyboards
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Woman tone, eh?

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#31
Quote by mulletboy14
Doesn't matter, the world ends in 2012 anyway, it's a well known fact.

[/sarcasm]

But I remember reading about this regarding video games, and they were saying something about far in the future of gaming, we may be able to create games that are real life simulations; you can touch, feel and do everything like real life... which scared the hell out of me.
What if this life is a simulation, and we are just the AI for some random kid? What if "real" mankind reached this point a long time ago, and now we aren't real?



I don't actually know much about computers and stuff, so don't flame me if I'm all wrong...
I'll try and find the link if anyone's interested.

matrix?
#32
Well, we v2.0 dogs have been around for a few years, can't be THAT long before someone does it to humans.


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#33
Quote by Abunai X
That stuff on animals was very disturbing. Makes me wonder when they'll start trying it on humans...


They already have... sort of anyway. They have mapped the brain and put a device on a human that lets them see, they have made a mouse that was controlled by a guy just thinking. The thing is that the mouse isn't being forced to move, the only reason it is moving is because if it moves the way the signal tells it to it gets a pleasure feeling. So it isn't something like you could tell a human to stab himself and he would.
#34
Awwwww that rat was so cute...poor little fella
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#35
Yeah I have an idea for a sci-fi story, since BEFORE I saw this thread. Obviously. What if we start implanting technological enhancements into our bodies - slowly at first - and we eventually just become a race of robots? Usually it's man creates machines > machines rebel > Arny. What if man BECOMES machine!?!
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#36
i don't believe that we can ever make a free-thinking computer. everything in computers is programmed, and you can't program free thinking. it's an oxymoron.

and about integrating computer chips and the brain, forget it. if you like the idea, watch Ghost in the Shell (the movie)