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I know at some point police officers in Britain couldn't carry guns, does that still apply today?
#4
officers do not typically carry gns in the UK, but some are licensed and do.

We tend to leave gun stuff to specialist trained units.
#6
they dont carry guns, well, most dont, mainly because they cant.
but we have a firearms unit which specializes in the usage of firearms and deals with any gun related incidents.
personally i think all our cops should be armed

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They have tp be specially trained in firearms, and even then can't carry guns while out on the beat.
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I think pretty much all police in Northern Ireland do, and some in big cities sch as London do aswell.
#12
oh god, why are people still going on about that?!!! seriously, that was 3 yrs ago.
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oh god, why are people still going on about that?!!! seriously, that was 3 yrs ago.
I think idiots that are in favour of arming the police need to be reminded.
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No, I don't think they do in london. My uncle is a cop there ( detective superintendant or something. Everyone has to call him sir and salute). Pretty sure they still use dedicated firearms squads.
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oh god, why are people still going on about that?!!! seriously, that was 3 yrs ago.


Probably because it's been the largest case of mistaken identity in the UK since the "war on terror" began.
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Charles De menezes?

He ran from the police. When they clearly were shouting Stop. He got what he deserved.
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oh god, why are people still going on about that?!!! seriously, that was 3 yrs ago.


I on hold for a radio call-in show for opinions about gun control and I don't want to make a false statement in my argument.

I tried to google it but I found nothing useful.
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I know people will bring Menezes up, but that was an isolated incident, why don't you look at all the incidents where police have been killed, because they were relatively "unarmed" compared to their attacker.

EDIT: Well when i was in London there were definately police carrying mp5's, mainly around parliament and Buckinghm Palace, places like that, just standing guard. last time I was in N.I (about 8 months ago) all the police I saw had handguns.
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He ran from the police. When they clearly were shouting Stop. He got what he deserved.
Even the Mail would find that too stupid.
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Probably because it's been the largest case of mistaken identity in the UK since the "war on terror" began.


true, and it was the only case where Operation Kratos has been implemented, and it was 2 weeks after the attacks which left 52 dead and the day after the second failed attacks.

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I think idiots that are in favour of arming the police need to be reminded.


that has only happened a few times, in the past 2 yrs several police officers have been murdered on our streets tackling criminals. they should be armed for their own protection
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that has only happened a few times, in the past 2 yrs several police officers have been murdered on our streets tackling criminals. they should be armed for their own protection
A few times is a few too many. This just in: guns don't protect people.
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He ran from the police. When they clearly were shouting Stop. He got what he deserved.

we dont have the death penalty here, so why would they shoot to kill?
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Yeah, shoot the bastard.

Why run from the police? Don't give me that "Scared" or "he didn't speak English" bollocks. Armed officers pointing guns at a suspect. Suspect fleas. They did what they thought was morally right. Shooting down one suspect who could have killed many more if he had been a terrorist.
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personally i think all our cops should be armed



i disagree strongly. that'd just be another step towards the zoo that is the united states. why should your average bobby be carrying a gun? its just asking for more and more people to start getting shot, innocent people getting killed by accident etc. guns have no place in this world except in video games and on firing ranges.
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I think idiots that are in favour of arming the police need to be reminded.


I think police should be more heavily armed. Not to that extent though, I just think a normal cop should be allowed to carry a taser, a baton, a stun-gun, or something, because combatting knife crime with mace doesn't seem very practical.
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Why run from the police? Don't give me that "Scared" or "he didn't speak English" bollocks. Armed officers pointing guns at a suspect. Suspect fleas. They did what they thought was morally right. Shooting down one suspect who could have killed many more if he had been a terrorist.
You're obviously trolling. GTFO.
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A few times is a few too many. This just in: guns don't protect people.


they have the power to wound or even kill, which will protect the officer who is being threatened.

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I think police should be more heavily armed. Not to that extent though, I just think a normal cop should be allowed to carry a taser, a baton, a stun-gun, or something, because combatting knife crime with mace doesn't seem very practical.


most officers carry that, usually a baton, most have a stun gun and they have cs spray.
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You're obviously trolling. GTFO.

No I'm actually 100% serious.

It's the greater good. One suspected terrorist dead or possibly thousands of innocent civilians killed if he had been a terrorist.
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they have the power to wound or even kill, which will protect the officer who is being threatened.
Evidence suggests you are wrong. A policeman with a gun is far more likely to be shot.
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No I'm actually 100% serious.
No, you're actually 100% moron.
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Why run from the police? Don't give me that "Scared" or "he didn't speak English" bollocks. Armed officers pointing guns at a suspect. Suspect fleas. They did what they thought was morally right. Shooting down one suspect who could have killed many more if he had been a terrorist.


That's Moronic, especially from someone with a exploited avatar.
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Why run from the police? Don't give me that "Scared" or "he didn't speak English" bollocks. Armed officers pointing guns at a suspect. Suspect fleas. They did what they thought was morally right. Shooting down one suspect who could have killed many more if he had been a terrorist.


Obviously, using some simple logic, if his only option is to run, he must not have a weapon or can't be capable of defending himself with a weapon.

Fight or flight response kicking in. His choice was flight, which obviously meant he was not thinking clearly and caved in to fear.

If you have no weapon, and you are facing with people (who have guns) and who have the potential to kill you, I doubt you'd stay still, your initial response would be to GTFO.
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Obviously, using some simple logic, if his only option is to run, he must not have a weapon or can't be capable of defending himself with a weapon.

Fight or flight response kicking in. His choice was flight, which obviously meant he was not thinking clearly and caved in to fear.

If you have no weapon, and you are facing with people (who have guns) and who have the potential to kill you, I doubt you'd stay still, your initial response would be to GTFO.

So if you're in another country and armed forces point guns at you... you would run?
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Why run from the police? Don't give me that "Scared" or "he didn't speak English" bollocks. Armed officers pointing guns at a suspect. Suspect fleas. They did what they thought was morally right. Shooting down one suspect who could have killed many more if he had been a terrorist.


I'd definitely shoot those suspect looking bloodsuckers!
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they dont carry guns, well, most dont, mainly because they cant.
but we have a firearms unit which specializes in the usage of firearms and deals with any gun related incidents.
personally i think all our cops should be armed


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