#5
The Elitist series is very nice, and some of their other ones are nice. They're ok guitars.

My bad I didn't see amps.

Their amps are ok. Muddy, but not bad. They're heavy as hell though,
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#7
thier lower end models are a very simple design. only one tube in some of them. not a bad thing really. cost effictive tube tone. theyre a good buy but they cant be compared to something that costs twice as much and is twice as complex fairly. most people that badmouth cheap stuff just dont trust their taste in sound enough to leave it to ear alone so lump all cheap stuff into the bad category even though theres a million cheap gear exceptions to the cheap is bad rule.
#8
Quote by will_ot
Its just because I found this

http://www.thomann.de/gb/epiphone_epat100dspepat412s.htm

and I thaught it looked a good deal but I'm not sure if they are rubbish.



It's a solid state...so...epiphone makes pretty bad solid states. Their tube ones are ok though.
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#9
Quote by will_ot
Its just because I found this

http://www.thomann.de/gb/epiphone_epat100dspepat412s.htm

and I thaught it looked a good deal but I'm not sure if they are rubbish.

oops i didnt know you were talking about solid state. an amp thats not tube is like a guitar thats not wood. accept no substitutes. a 2x12 50 watt combo would be about as loud and about as expensive if you look around for a good deal.
#10
Quote by Artemis Entreri
The Elitist series is very nice, and some of their other ones are nice. They're ok guitars.

The amps, not the guitars.

And the reason is epiphone is basicly a budget brand to gibson.
Not in the sence that everythings horrible, but its just cheeply made.
#11
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oops i didnt know you were talking about solid state. an amp thats not tube is like a guitar thats not wood. accept no substitutes. a 2x12 50 watt combo would be about as loud and about as expensive if you look around for a good deal.


That's not ENTIRELY true. BB King uses solid state amps from Gibson and his tone is wonderful. It depends on what you want. Well made SS amps have wonderful clean channels. Gain? Not so much. Not at all really. And maybe not as warm as tube amps, but they still sound nice for clean.

A no wood guitar does sound pretty bad though. Jack White's airline guitar sounds harsh, but that's what he does, and I love him for it.
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#12
Would it be rubbish for alternative indie like the wombats, the arctic monkeys and the libertines.
#13
Their all tube amps are excellent. They are cheap because they are Epiphone and their made over seas.

The tone is wonderful, though.
#14
Quote by will_ot
Would it be rubbish for alternative indie like the wombats, the arctic monkeys and the libertines.


I mean it depends on what you want to do with it. If you want to perform with a band, probably. If you just want to practice? I mean there are better amps for the money.


Their all tube amps are excellent. They are cheap because they are Epiphone and their made over seas.

The tone is wonderful, though.

They're all tube amps are ok. The tone is a little too muddy for me.
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#15
i've just bought the valve special 5 watt tube version and can't wait till it gets here
i looked around and thought that was the best as far as budget tube tone goes
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#17
I guess it's cheap because of (mainly) three things:
*Made in a foreign country
*Mass produced
*Cheap parts

You get what you pay for.
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#18
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They're all tube amps are ok. The tone is a little too muddy for me.

They make excellent blues amps, which is what I play. IMO, the Blues Custom 30 is superior to the Classic 30 and the Delta Blues in that respect. The Valve Standard is very good as well, as is the So Cal 50.
#19
Imo Epiphone are a very underrated brand. People see them as a knock off Gibson, which to an extent they are, but some of the Epiphone models such as the Casino has been chosen by many artists over it's 'upgrade', the Gibson ES-330. Also, people see the Epiphone Dot as the knock off ES-335. The Dot actually came first.

Amps-wise, I've heard the Valve Junior is good, but incredibly quiet. It also has very minimal features (A volume knob and that's it). If you were looking for a Solid State amp, I've heard the Roland Cube and Vox Valvetronix are worth it.

Epiphone are cheap because they are produced in a country where labour is available for cheap prices, with cheap tax.


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