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#1
So I'm in the market for a new SS amp. No tubes. Don't ask why

I'd like something to play at home as well as in small gigs.

I play mostly metal (Metallica, Judas Priest, Megadeth, Nightwish, Children of Bodom, Emperor) and my current gig is in my signature.

So basically, what I'm searching for is something louder than my Cube 30X with decent cleans and distortion.

I don't want to sound like I'm playing other amps nor do I want to sound like a known artist (I mean, I do not find it to be a necessity. If an amp sounds good and is a modulation amp, thats OK). I just want a good tone.

I don't care if I have to boost the overdrive with a pedal.

Ha! And all this for less than €500 (not counting extras like pedals or footswitches).


Thanks in advance!

PS: Most people don't talk about this because it's almost guaranteed that flamers will come flying, but I'd like my new amp to look good and big, lolol. I mean, what guitar player does not like the look of a wall of full stacks?
Guitars:
Jackson WRXT + EMG 81/85
Les Paul
Ibanez SZ320
Amps:
Peavey Valveking 112
Roland Cube 30X
Effects:
Dunlop Cry-baby
Danelectro Cool Cat Transparent Overdrive
Synthetizer:
Roland EXR-5
#2
Im asking anyways. Why no tubes?
Gearz:
Squier classic vibe 50's strat, modded.
Dunlop 535q
Korg Pitchblack
Carvin X100B

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#3
I bought a good and big amp and its just not practical.. i need my dad to drive me to gigs and i need him to help me carry it into the venue, i'd seriously suggest you get a combo
My Gear

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Marshall DSL 50 with 1960A
#4
Quote by Austin_Scharosc
Im asking anyways. Why no tubes?


Full stacks only existed because places had no PAs. Nobody in their right mind would carry all that shit. There is a reason why everone says go tube, because it is tried ansd true
#5
Quote by xander307
I bought a good and big amp and its just not practical.. i need my dad to drive me to gigs and i need him to help me carry it into the venue, i'd seriously suggest you get a combo


Are you 15 years old? Do you only weigh 100lbs or something?

Back on topic, if you want like a half stack you can really only look into like $250 head/cab sets, and around here people have very negative opinions about them.

1, You'll get told to buy a tube amp.
2, You'll get told to buy a combo amp.


To the above post:

Last time I saw DevilDriver at the House of Blues they had Mesa Triple Rec. full stacks. People buy what they want, if they're willing to carry it why do you care?
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#6
Quote by xander307
I bought a good and big amp and its just not practical.. i need my dad to drive me to gigs and i need him to help me carry it into the venue, i'd seriously suggest you get a combo


Thanks, but I can drive myself to gigs. And there's a drummer and a bassist in the band. I have all the help I need to carry a big amp =D
Guitars:
Jackson WRXT + EMG 81/85
Les Paul
Ibanez SZ320
Amps:
Peavey Valveking 112
Roland Cube 30X
Effects:
Dunlop Cry-baby
Danelectro Cool Cat Transparent Overdrive
Synthetizer:
Roland EXR-5
#7
im 16 , and yeh i guess some people are in a better position than me for gigging.. tube amps sound better man, no reliable solid state stacks spring to mind
My Gear

Fender Deluxe Players Stratocaster
Marshall DSL 50 with 1960A
#8
First: It's not a requirement for the amp to be an half stack! I just said that it would be good if the amp looked good. The wall of stacks was an example...

And again: NO TUBE AMPS! Damn...
Guitars:
Jackson WRXT + EMG 81/85
Les Paul
Ibanez SZ320
Amps:
Peavey Valveking 112
Roland Cube 30X
Effects:
Dunlop Cry-baby
Danelectro Cool Cat Transparent Overdrive
Synthetizer:
Roland EXR-5
#9
Well you won't find 4x12 combo. At least I don't think so...

Just go to like Musician's Friend and look at different amps. It sounds like you like high gain type music?
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#10
alright, just get a Marshall MG, the overdrive is crushing!
My Gear

Fender Deluxe Players Stratocaster
Marshall DSL 50 with 1960A
#11
Quote by xander307
alright, just get a Marshall MG, the overdrive is crushing!


That was mature... and oh so helpful.
Quote by sargasm
There are no genres in metal that end with "core."
#12
Quote by xander307
alright, just get a Marshall MG, the overdrive is crushing!


cough...cough...brainwashed...cough...cough...

Anyway, yeah, high gain =)

I've been thinking about these ones:

-Vox Valvetronix AD100VT
-Fender FM100H

The Vox has good tones, I already played it.

The Fender... I've heard that the cleans are good (at least decent), but the distortion... =/ Also I've heard that it's too trebly... don't know if this could dealt with with a distortion pedal and an EQ pedal...

[]
Guitars:
Jackson WRXT + EMG 81/85
Les Paul
Ibanez SZ320
Amps:
Peavey Valveking 112
Roland Cube 30X
Effects:
Dunlop Cry-baby
Danelectro Cool Cat Transparent Overdrive
Synthetizer:
Roland EXR-5
#13
Honestly I've never played either, so I can't help you there. You *SHOULD* be able to clean up extra treble with an EQ pedal, but if it's the speaker(s) that are causing it there is little you can do. I wouldn't count on a distortion to clean up excess treble.

I like my Ibanez for high gain, although it's scorned on here.
Quote by sargasm
There are no genres in metal that end with "core."
#14
look at randall. they make some good sounding metal-biased SS half stacks for reasonable prices. and the vox is better than the fender
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#15
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cough...cough...brainwashed...cough...cough...



I think it was a joke...........At least I really hope so.

Any frontman amp sounds pretty awful for high gain. The clean channel is great if you boost it with a tubescreamer type pedal, it may also work with a high gain/distortion pedal, but it does still sound a bit muddy. I have the treble maxed on all parts of the signal chain and it still isn't great.

EDIT: Read above. Not what I've found with mine. Plenty of low end boom (FM212r), just enough mid and not enough treble. The reverb does sound very nice though.

And I personally think the most cool look you can have is with a little Fender tweed amp/black hotrod deluxe, and a severely worn strat or tele. The sound from that combo is also orgasmic.
Last edited by ljohn at Sep 20, 2008,
#16
It pains me to recommend a solid state amp, but if you really must do so I would recommend something from Randall.
-Paul Reed Smith SE Custom
-Bugera 333XL 212
#17
If you want a high quality solid state, get a Line 6


Flextone , anyway yeah, its a pretty good solid state.
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#18
Yeah the Flextone & Randall amps are nice.
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There are no genres in metal that end with "core."
#19
Quote by xander307
alright, just get a Marshall MG, the overdrive is crushing!

people like you should be banned from UG.
#22
Quote by tenaciousjp
people like you should be banned from UG.


people like you should be banned from UG.


Ah, seriously man, they aren't THAT bad, to some, ok sure, but IMO they're O.K, they're just overpriced. So stop being narrowminded, just because some1 hates it, doesn't mean you have to.
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#23
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people like you should be banned from UG.


Ah, seriously man, they aren't THAT bad, to some, ok sure, but IMO they're O.K, they're just overpriced. So stop being narrowminded, just because some1 hates it, doesn't mean you have to.

That seems out of place lol.
-Paul Reed Smith SE Custom
-Bugera 333XL 212
#25
Ok back on topic gentlemen.

Isn't the Peavy XXL tube? Or am I mistaken...
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#26
Ibanez TBX series? I tried one and it had pretty heavy OD.
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#27
Quote by shadow__666
Ibanez TBX series? I tried one and it had pretty heavy OD.


I own the head. If the mids aren't scooped then the "tinny" and "thin" sound people have pinned to it doesn't exist. Supposedly it has issues like the MG with quality, but you get a 5 year warranty so who cares?

I would vote for either the $250 head/cab mixture, or the $300(+/-) combo 2x12.
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There are no genres in metal that end with "core."
#28
Ampeg VH-140

Look for it.

If you find it, buy it.
#29
bugera 6260, 6262, or 333xl.

they're solid state, i swear.
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#30
Quote by UnsignedRecords
bugera 6260, 6262, or 333xl.

they're solid state, i swear.


lol
Quote by sargasm
There are no genres in metal that end with "core."
#31
There's alot of fail here.
A) TS, you need to provide a logical (or something) reason why you don't want tubes.
B) A frontman is not good for metal. Or much of anything besides okay cleans.
C) Your cube is better than the 2 amps you said you were looking at.
D) Flextone, Randall, and the XXL are the best recommendations you've had.


My recs:
http://www.thomann.de/gb/hugheskettner_attax100.htm
H&K Attax 100

http://www.thomann.de/gb/line6_flextoneiii_plus_gitarrencombo.htm
Flextone III

http://www.thomann.de/gb/randall_rg50_tc.htm

Randall RG-50TC (this is tube. this is a great amp, and perfect for what you want, and I'm recommending it because you didn't give me a reason not to. At least try it.)
I'm putting my GAS on hold
for a couple months in order to pimp my ride.


Don't judge me.
#33
Quote by theoreticmusic

D) Flextone, Randall, and the XXL are the best recommendations you've had.


No love for teh VH-140?

#34
Quote by slickerthnsleek
Total n00b question, but what does TS stand for exactly?

*blushes*


Thread Starter


Quote by imgooley
No love for teh VH-140?

You posted that while I was typing my response. And I was too lazy to edit. It's good.
I'm putting my GAS on hold
for a couple months in order to pimp my ride.


Don't judge me.
#35
Peavey XXL, got to say great amp, even being SS

Cleans have somthing to be desired though

Randalls are good solid states

Cleans still have something to be desired

fender FM good for jazz

Hates pedals, gain isn't high enough to go metal

I'd say look at the XXL, it's a good looking amp, make sure you get a good cab for it because that'll make all the difference in the world, and just live with the decent cleans and the good distortion.
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#37
Quote by Me@UGC
And again: NO TUBE AMPS! Damn...
EXPLAIN.
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#38
http://www.thomann.de/thoiw10_artikel-206768.html

That's one of the best sounding amps you can get for what you want to play - why should you be bothered if it's tube or not ? You should only be concerned with how it's going to sound.

Bugera allegedly have questionable reliability, but they're not going to be any worse than a lot of the equivalent priced solid state amps. Besides, beggars can't be choosers...if you're not going to spend a lot of money you have to take what's there.
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#39
Used Roland JC120 + your POD. Problem solved, everybody's happy.
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#40
First, let me tell you, this has been the best response I've ever seen in UG. Thank you all guys =)

I'm gonna go check all those amps you recommended.

For all the people questioning about why no tube amps, just recommend me one or two that are in my price range, I'll take a look at them with much reticences... =)

[]
Guitars:
Jackson WRXT + EMG 81/85
Les Paul
Ibanez SZ320
Amps:
Peavey Valveking 112
Roland Cube 30X
Effects:
Dunlop Cry-baby
Danelectro Cool Cat Transparent Overdrive
Synthetizer:
Roland EXR-5
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