#1
Hi guys!

This is my first post on the Bass forum. I'm mainly play guitar, but about the same time I got my first guitar I came across a Bass; it's an Ibanez Blazer Custom from 1981 (it's a P-bass style Ibanez in case anyone doesn't know the model). I really like it, but I don't actually have anything to play it through. I did get to play it rhough an amp once, for like half a minute once, and liked how it sounded, and as of late I've wanted to expand in my writing my learning more bass things and being able to play it and hear it well. so I was thinking about getting a bass amp.

I'm not knowledgeable on Bass gear whatsoever, but I need it to be able to keep up with a 50 watt - 100 watt tube guitar amp, have a really good clean sound, and be able to take effects well (fuzz, distortion/OD, delay, envelope filters, flang etc).

I mainly play all sorts of rock and metal (including some punk/hardcore, progressive and experimental stuff, and other things). Favorite bassists include Justin Chancellor, Tim Commerford, Les Claypool, Martin Menedez, Juan Alderte, Ryan Martine, Eddie Breckenridge, Jeff Caxide and Troy Sanders.

Budget: up to 800 USD. Whether it's a head and a 2 or 4x10 or a combo makes no difference. Not sure if tube or solid state is better for bass (I noticed a lot of bass amps on musiciansfriend were solid state), so it makes no difference to me.

Thanks for the help!
#2
you want about 300 watts minimum. I'd say Gallien Krueger, Ashdown, Acoustic, Trace Elliot might do you some looking at.
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#5
skully, he needs much louder than 100 watts.

I'd say just look around. you'll find something. play what you like.

though, from GK, be careful, they're cheap amps aren't always so good.

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#6
but he said he only needs something that can keep up with a 50-100 watt guitar amp
the cube can do that without trying
#7
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but he said he only needs something that can keep up with a 50-100 watt guitar amp
the cube can do that without trying


But my amp doesn't cut through a Peavey Classic 30 at half volume. And its 100 watts also.

With USD 800, I would go with a Carvin BX600 and Avatar 2x12. But there are many quality companies to look at outside of those two.
#8
it should be at least 3 times, and it's tube, which is naturally way louder.

so 300 would probably be a little soft unless that guitarist turns way down. and if he's got 100 watts tube, that obviously is at the bottom of his to do list. and if there is a drummer gonna be hanging around, 300 would be preferable.
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#9
My appologies Humaity I didnt notice that it was a tube amp your totally right
but Id' still recomand checking out some of rolands other models
The Roland D bass 115 is an excelent 300 watt amp
#10
i've got a 50 watt tube amp, and I at least know of a situation where I will be playing with a drummer, possibly a keyboardist, and possibly a bassist, if not another guitarist with a similar (if not larger) watt amp, so bare minimum it would need to keep up with 50 watt tube amp (cuz the shows I'd be playing I doubt they'd let you really open up a 100 watt tube head...that's just nuts in clubs).
#11
*puts on his ashdown representative hat* ashdown MAG would do you good *receives advertising royalties (i wish)*
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#12
you still need 200 to keep up with a drummer, 300-400 if he pounds it like no other.
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#14
those ampegs are underrated and probably a little too old school for your tastes. they might get a passable Alderette tone, but at the cost of some audibility. that GK needs a head, by the way. other tha that, you are good!
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#15
My Crate BT100 is only 100 watts. I can hear myself over the drummer AND piss my guitarist off, so it's a good deal.
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#16
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My Crate BT100 is only 100 watts. I can hear myself over the drummer AND piss my guitarist off, so it's a good deal.

well, then you keep doing that, blissfully ignoring that the amp is probably right next to you.
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#17
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well, then you keep doing that, blissfully ignoring that the amp is probably right next to you.


I gig with it. I play outdoors a lot. Your amp is mainly a monitor, the PA will make sure you're heard... I've play with up to 3 electrics and an acoustic, along with keys, I'm still fine.
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#18
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I gig with it. I play outdoors a lot. Your amp is mainly a monitor, the PA will make sure you're heard... I've play with up to 3 electrics and an acoustic, along with keys, I'm still fine.

did he state he had a PA to use?
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#19
normally a PA goes without saying if your playing in a venue that hosts live music often it's a safe asumption that there will be a pa system there very few vnues would rely on the band to bring huge amps especially if they are hiring semi pro and amature bands
#20
not where I live. you bring your own to pretty much every outside or charity venue.
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#21
More than 300 watts aye sorry dont know many mines only 50
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#22
Bring your own amps goes with out saying and I've played at clubs that are literally falling apart and even they have PA systems the oly places I've payed with no pa's have been school /community halls
like check this venue part of the ceiling oer the stage came down ages ago and even still they had a pa I really cant get over that no where were you gig has a pa system
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#23
I get them for inside gigs. but in Riverside, you don't get very many teens liking you unless you play The Plaza, charity gigs, lawn gigs, birthday parties. if you want a fanbase, you need those gigs.
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#24
I'd love if it worked that way here but unfortunatly theres not much opertunities like that the only way to do it is play for free at the shitty clubs do every battle of the bands competition help other bands organise gigs by backing them up network on bebo and myspace it's the same concept as what you do but on a less personal scale with the fans you just have to grab every opertunity going to get on stage to be seen
#25
well, you have to do what you can get. but there is definitely some nice opportunities everywhere.

but I digress. I like being prepared. it helps a lot.
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#26
I'd still like to get a closer thing going with a fan base though low key stuff ours is only starting to rise slowly.

one good thing about using the myspace aproach is that you can reach the other bands before hand and share the equipment load between all of you a five band gig can resuly in each band only having to bring an amp each and some parts of a drum kit
#27
oh, you gotta do myspace nowadays or you go nowhere man. it's crap man. but hey. we gotta adjust, lean with the world.
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#28
I'm eventually gonna upgrade to a GK 700RB and a 4x10 cab, but for now, the Crate is doing just fine. Remember, your first amp is like your first kiss, if she's too hot the first time around, you'll have higher expectations later.
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#29
Galien Kruegger does look pretty good to me so far. would something like this be good? http://bass-guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/GallienKrueger-Backline-600Goldline-4x10-Stack?sku=486004

Oh yea, and sorry about the other GK link: i could have sworn it said Combo and not Cab. My bad. :p

Also, does anyone know the prices of Mesa bass amps? How much they go for used or new? I know Justin from Tool used to use one of their models, and I think Troy from Mastodon uses them now. Justin's got one of my favorite bass sounds (from basically any era Tool, sans Undertow since it was Paul D'Amour and didn't have as cool basslines IMO), and Troy get's some nice sounds too.
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Galien Kruegger does look pretty good to me so far. would something like this be good? http://bass-guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/GallienKrueger-Backline-600Goldline-4x10-Stack?sku=486004

Oh yea, and sorry about the other GK link: i could have sworn it said Combo and not Cab. My bad. :p

Also, does anyone know the prices of Mesa bass amps? How much they go for used or new? I know Justin from Tool used to use one of their models, and I think Troy from Mastodon uses them now. Justin's got one of my favorite bass sounds (from basically any era Tool, sans Undertow since it was Paul D'Amour and didn't have as cool basslines IMO), and Troy get's some nice sounds too.


A lot more than you have.

A lot of his tone comes from his Wal basses as well. Compare his tone on Aenima and Lateralus/10,000 Days.
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#31
Yea, his Wal's are pretty midrangy, right? that kind of helps it really stand out.

And lemme guess, Mesa bass amps are around like 1500+++++ a lot, right? Any older ones (discontinued or whatever) that go within my price range?

Also, any thoughts on the GK thing I posted [the head plus the 4x10]?
#32
that is a nice amp. I personally, dislike the Tool sound so... maybe I'm not the best one to ask...
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