#1
So what is a better Custom Guitar, ESP or Gibson, assuming they both had Alnico Pro 2 Duncan pickups.
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#3
why do you have 4 lespauls?
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#5
ESP cheaper and better quality
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#6
...they're custom. If they make it to your specs they should be about the same.
#7
Oh dear...
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#8
Quote by Roc8995
...they're custom. If they make it to your specs they should be about the same.

Well, not necessarily. For example: I know several different kinds of maple (not taking into account the figured stuff), mahogany, ebony and rosewood, each kind with it's own tonal aspects. Potentially, each custom shop uses different woods while using the same names, so tonal results will vary.

Then there are differences in the hardware used. Take the tune-o-matic bridge as an example: There's a whole bunch of companies that make those and each has it's own materials and slightly varying construction.

Last but not least: There are some differences in workmanship and general attitute towards the product: Gibson's V.O.S guitars tend to have sunken in binding and inlays. Not because the luthiers can't do it right, but because that are common issues on vintage Gibsons. They just try to make their guitars authentic. You decide for yourself if you want that or not.

I know that the differences are subtle. But a custom LP can easily cost 4000$ and I think we can afford to be picky in that price range.


To the ts: I'd not go with any of these companies, because ESP custom guitars are hardly better than their (already very good) standard guitars and because the Gibson customs that are really really good cost waaaayyyy too much. Also they're made to be vintage authentic and require some improvements (tuners!) to make them real players imo.
I'd go with a local luthier if I was you or with one of the companies specialized on making custom stuff like ranguitars - Their prices are more reasonable than ESP's or Gibson's and they are just as good.
#9
Quote by Lord Waltaa
why do you have 4 lespauls?



because I love Les Pauls, and im selling two of them (not advertising! Just answering)
Gear:
Agile 2000 2ts
ESP LTD Eclipse 1000, ASB
Amps:
Crate GTD65
Peavey Vypyr Tube 60
#11
Quote by ZaÐ
Ran


YES!!!!!!!

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but with the american dollar so low compared to a euro, idk
if thats an issue
then ESP fo sho!
#12
Rans quality went down a little, while there prices and waiting time have went up.
And each custom shop is different. Neither one is better, it's all a matter of opinion.
#13
Quote by TheQuailman
Well, not necessarily. For example: I know several different kinds of maple (not taking into account the figured stuff), mahogany, ebony and rosewood, each kind with it's own tonal aspects. Potentially, each custom shop uses different woods while using the same names, so tonal results will vary.

Then there are differences in the hardware used. Take the tune-o-matic bridge as an example: There's a whole bunch of companies that make those and each has it's own materials and slightly varying construction.

Last but not least: There are some differences in workmanship and general attitute towards the product: Gibson's V.O.S guitars tend to have sunken in binding and inlays. Not because the luthiers can't do it right, but because that are common issues on vintage Gibsons. They just try to make their guitars authentic. You decide for yourself if you want that or not.

I know that the differences are subtle. But a custom LP can easily cost 7000$ and I think we can afford to be picky in that price range.


To the ts: I'd not go with any of these companies, because ESP custom guitars are hardly better than their (already very good) standard guitars and because the Gibson customs that are really really good cost waaaayyyy too much. Also they're made to be vintage authentic and require some improvements (tuners!) to make them real players imo.
I'd go with a local luthier if I was you or with one of the companies specialized on making custom stuff like ranguitars - Their prices are more reasonable than ESP's or Gibson's and they are just as good.



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#14
Quote by TheQuailman
Well, not necessarily. For example: I know several different kinds of maple (not taking into account the figured stuff), mahogany, ebony and rosewood, each kind with it's own tonal aspects. Potentially, each custom shop uses different woods while using the same names, so tonal results will vary.



chances are you'll hardly notice any difference consider this is a electric guitar not some fancy violin
#15
Fancy violins! Ahhh the Stradavarius.
Gear:
Agile 2000 2ts
ESP LTD Eclipse 1000, ASB
Amps:
Crate GTD65
Peavey Vypyr Tube 60
#16
Get a Jackson custom shop! I had to wait a long time to receive it, but it's my pride and joy. They will go out of their way to make sure it fits your specifications, I haven't heard any rants about their wrong doing in the custom process, they are slow but efficient. The hardware, wood, and paint jobs are all flawless, plus the price could come to half of a custom Gibson price, literally.

I always have wondered how B.C. Rich custom shops were?

This is the Jackson CS I got.



Obviously purchased from drumcityguitarland.com, which I highly recommend, shipping was superb, product was mint.

Total was $2,349.99

Reason it took a somewhat long shipping time, is because drumcity wasn't carrying any at the time, and had to do business with Jackson's Custom Shop to obtain more.
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#17
^very nice, but like all BC-Riches: too much money for what you get.

+1 to JAckson CS quality, but -1 to Jackson's long waiting line...
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#18
New Orleans Guitar Company? After seeing the top of this guitar, I seriously want to check them out further.

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#19
Carvin! It was reccomended to me here, and believe me, visit their site and you will know love.
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#20
If they were made all to the same specs, single cut and all like that, there would be hardly much difference.

And am I the only one here who doesn't particually like Alnico 2s?

Everyone loves them now.
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#21
Quote by kckyle
chances are you'll hardly notice any difference consider this is a electric guitar


That's totally incorrect. Thanks for playing.
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#22
Quote by Lil Macker
If they were made all to the same specs, single cut and all like that, there would be hardly much difference.

And am I the only one here who doesn't particually like Alnico 2s?

Everyone loves them now.


I don't like them either

Jackson custom shop is great, but you do have to wait about a year :/ RAN and ESP are more expensive but ESP has I think 8-9 month wait, and RAN has like a 10-11 month wait.

Overall it's what you want. I'd go for the ESP custom shop though, I'm really gassing for a black custom Eclipse with an FR and black pearl binding (like the Edwards EC haha)
#23
apparently a lot of people here like Carvin customs... I checked the site, and they look really nice, AND very, very, very inexpensive. For the most part their guitars are < $900.

the only thing is i dont think you can get Brand Name pickups on them, and their headstocks are a little ugly,


but between ESP and Gibson, i'd def. go with ESP.

For 8 grand max you can get ANYTHING. ANYTHING. ive seen some really intense guitar pics on the net...

And i really dont see the point of buying a custom gibson, apart from the name