#1
UPDATE Feb 4th, 2009

I now have a good amp in the Traynor YCV50 and my modded HSS Stratocaster. The hunt for a new main guitar can now start. As far as I can tell, my tastes for my next guitar consists of the following:

- Explorer or Superstrat body shape
- ideally a maple fretboard
- can be H/H or H/S/H setup
- tremolo optional
- must look "good", this is very subjective on my part of course

Here is a shortlist I've come up with so far:

Gibson Explorer or Gibson Explorer Pro in natural finish


Hamer USA Standard Custom (explorer body) - expensive as hell


Epiphone Explorer '58 Korina in natural finish - Unsure about this one


Ibanez RG770DX in blue


Jackson DK2M Pro


Jackson SL2H Soloist USA - variety of nice finishes available


Godin Freeway Classic in blue finish



Out of all of these, I've only played the Explorer, and I didn't play the Gibson, I played the Epiphone version (ha!). Ideally I'd want to find a used Hamer USA Standard locally, but no luck so far as I thought. I'm just wondering if I'm missing any guitar here. The thing is I hate for example abalone binding and certain headstocks, so ESP and Schecter are out of the question. It's one of those things that it has to look "good" to me, if I find even one thing I don't like about it, it's out of my list. So far, the ones on this list I haven't found anything wrong with them, but I haven't played them either. The one that I choose to buy in the end will have to feel "right" when I play it.
my MG15DFX has a button that simulates the sound of one of the expensive tube marshall amps


Fender Stratocaster HSS
LTD EC-400AT
Traynor YCV-50 Blue
Peavey Envoy 110

Wishlist: Hamer USA Explorer, Gibson Explorer
Last edited by MustangSVT at Feb 10, 2009,
#2
I'd say go with the Orange Tiny Terror. Has the option of 7 or 15 watts. Reviews about it have been good. This is the amp I think I will look at when I'm in the market again. You should be able to get a Tiny Terror and a 1x12 or maybe 2x12 cab in your budget.
#3
man, i gotta say.
going from the prs and cube back to the squier is gonna suck.
but i would say with that budget, deffinately go cube. hmm maybe look at the peavey classic series?
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man, i gotta say.
going from the prs and cube back to the squier is gonna suck.
but i would say with that budget, deffinately go cube. hmm maybe look at the peavey classic series?

Tell me about it. I'm playing some Iron Man and Eye of the Tiger right now through this PRS/Cube combo. It freaking owns. I just love this amp. This amp sounds so awesome compared to my Peavey. I should sell this Peavey and get one of these Rolands when my friends wants his stuff back in december.

I also put on new 10 gauge "Ernie Ball Rock and Roll" strings on the PRS and cleaned it up and I like the feel of it overall. It just "clicks" if you know what I mean. I don't really feel like playing the Squier anymore.

Anyway I will save up some money, thank you for your comments guys, I will take them into account when looking for stuff.

I will update this topic as I run into deals at local shop and craigslist as I previously mentioned.
my MG15DFX has a button that simulates the sound of one of the expensive tube marshall amps


Fender Stratocaster HSS
LTD EC-400AT
Traynor YCV-50 Blue
Peavey Envoy 110

Wishlist: Hamer USA Explorer, Gibson Explorer
#5
Peavey Valveking (I think it's 50 watts) would be a good investment, but if you really do want to stick to less wattage, the Orange Tiny Terror is a very nice amp. If you got it, I'd also recommend getting a Boss SD-1 or a Digitech Bad Monkey pedal to use a boost for more high-gain stuff.

For a guitar, I have a Gibson Explorer Pro, and I have to say it's the nicest guitar I've ever played, but it was a few grand so I don't think that's in your price range. But from owning an Explorer, I can say they aren't hard to sit down and play with like people say they are, and they attract a lot of attention because of how cool they look.

Epiphone Explorers and LTD Explorers would be more in your price range though, but they're both fairly reputable brands that would be fine for a second, third, or even backup gigging guitar.

They'd be my recommendations, feel free to argue with me if you disagree.
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#6
If you're going to have around $800 for an amp then the Traynor YCV50 Blue would be perfect for you.

http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Traynor-Custom-Valve-50BLUE-YCV50BLUE-50W-All-Tube-1x12-Combo-Amp-with-Celestion-Speaker?sku=489075
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#7
Seagull, thank you for the advice. A local music shop actually has a Traynor YCV50 Blue and it is $799 I believe (or could be $849, it was something like that). I will take a look into that.

Another question for you UG'ers. There's an Ibanez JS100 guitar on local craiglist. Guy wants $400 for it, or $450 with a hardcase.

It seems like a good price and it looks like a good guitar. However it looks like it has a Floyd Rose on it. I have heard mixed feelings about this type of tremolo/locking systems and that it's hard to keep in tune, especially if you're a novice (like me). I don't plan on using a tremolo/whammy bar, at least not right now. What are you thoughts on this folks? If you don't use a whammy bar with a Floyd Rose, is it easier to keep in tune? I am not too knowledgeable on all of this and would like some guidance.

P.S. would like to add that I am considering going to try this guitar from the person selling it and I am bringing along a very knowldgeable guitar friend that's willing to help me out with purchases. I however haven't set up a "meeting time", I would like to hear some comments from here first and know what the deal with this sort of guitar is.

Thank you in advance.
my MG15DFX has a button that simulates the sound of one of the expensive tube marshall amps


Fender Stratocaster HSS
LTD EC-400AT
Traynor YCV-50 Blue
Peavey Envoy 110

Wishlist: Hamer USA Explorer, Gibson Explorer
#8
The JS100 is pretty crappy for what it is, the bridge is poor and you're paying over the odds for Satch's name. The whole floating bridge thing in general is a whole other issue anyway, they're not really worth getting if you aren't planning to use and also they can prove to be a major headache for a novice player.

Do yourself a favour and have a look at that Traynor though, you'll love it. As far as a guitar goes I'm thinking a Michael Kelly Patriot would suit you perfectly.

http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Michael-Kelly-Patriot-Glory-Electric-Guitar?sku=513848
http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Michael-Kelly-Patriot-Phoenix-Electric-Guitar?sku=512293
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#9
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The JS100 is pretty crappy for what it is, the bridge is poor and you're paying over the odds for Satch's name. The whole floating bridge thing in general is a whole other issue anyway, they're not really worth getting if you aren't planning to use and also they can prove to be a major headache for a novice player.

Do yourself a favour and have a look at that Traynor though, you'll love it. As far as a guitar goes I'm thinking a Michael Kelly Patriot would suit you perfectly.

http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Michael-Kelly-Patriot-Glory-Electric-Guitar?sku=513848
http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Michael-Kelly-Patriot-Phoenix-Electric-Guitar?sku=512293

+ 1 on the Traynor, and I haven't heard of Michael Kelly (not sure if they have them in Australia), but they look very nice.
I would say no to the JS100, because like Seag said, you're mainly paying for Satch's name.
I'm not a huge fan on Ibanez's, the exceptions being the real expensive ones and the S470, which was a very nice guitar.
So yeah, Traynor = Good idea.
Ibanez = Not so much.
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#10
Alright thank you for your thoughts guys. I am going to continue saving up for an amp. Now I know what brands are available around here and where to guy to look. One of the music stores here has mainly Fender/Line6/H&K/Crate amps , another one has Fenders/Marshall/Traynor/Orange mainly.

I will probably end up buying an amp around early december which is when I have to give this Roland Cube back.
my MG15DFX has a button that simulates the sound of one of the expensive tube marshall amps


Fender Stratocaster HSS
LTD EC-400AT
Traynor YCV-50 Blue
Peavey Envoy 110

Wishlist: Hamer USA Explorer, Gibson Explorer
Last edited by MustangSVT at Sep 27, 2008,
#11
Bump. Alright guys I have another question for you experts. So as I've mentioned, currently playing through a Roland Cube 30X and a PRS SE. I plugged in my Squier Strat to the Roland amp yesterday, and it makes this humming noise (without anything being played). Also if I lean the guitar outwards, it gets very loud. I think it has something to do with the wiring where the guitar cable plugs in maybe? That plug-in is pretty secure, it's not loose or anything, but if I lean the guitar forwards, something happens. I'm thinking I should replace the wiring inside the guitar altogether and it would probably make it sound better. My dad is quite the technician and would probably be able to help me do something like this, I'd like your guy's thoughts on this. Is the hum something to do with single coil hum? It seemed to me like it was something that shouldn't be there rather than something "distinctive" about the guitar. This was at low volume by the way, clean channel.
my MG15DFX has a button that simulates the sound of one of the expensive tube marshall amps


Fender Stratocaster HSS
LTD EC-400AT
Traynor YCV-50 Blue
Peavey Envoy 110

Wishlist: Hamer USA Explorer, Gibson Explorer
#12
The fact your Squier would have single coils would be my guess.
Single coils usually hum pretty loud unless you get hum-canceling ones.
Humbuckers do that to a fair extent for you, so no need to worry there.
I wouldn't worry too much.
Does it still hum when you have it on a clean setting?
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#14
Again thank you for the comments and advice folks.

I found a Fender Strat HSS locally in the colour combo I would want for $375cad used, I'm going with a friend on Wednesday to see it. Anyone have any thought on this sort of guitar. It's a mexican one obviously.
my MG15DFX has a button that simulates the sound of one of the expensive tube marshall amps


Fender Stratocaster HSS
LTD EC-400AT
Traynor YCV-50 Blue
Peavey Envoy 110

Wishlist: Hamer USA Explorer, Gibson Explorer
Last edited by MustangSVT at Sep 29, 2008,
#15
I went and tried out the mexican Strat last night. It was not HSS, it was just the regular SSS, so my friend said it's only worth about $300. It was in great condition and looked nice, but I think I'll just save money for the one I want (which was HSS).

I'll keep waiting for that "right" deal. Probably gonna go by music shop today again to screw around with some of their acoustics and not buy anything.
my MG15DFX has a button that simulates the sound of one of the expensive tube marshall amps


Fender Stratocaster HSS
LTD EC-400AT
Traynor YCV-50 Blue
Peavey Envoy 110

Wishlist: Hamer USA Explorer, Gibson Explorer
#16
A humbucker in the bridge doesn't make a strat more valuable, that's for sure.
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#17
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A humbucker in the bridge doesn't make a strat more valuable, that's for sure.

Really? Ever since I've been playing my friend's PRS, I like the tone of that guitar so much more than my Squier and on my Squier, the tone of the bridge is probably my least favorite.

I don't know all that much really about guitars though, so . I figured that a HSS Strat would probably sound better to me than a regular strat, but I could be wrong.
my MG15DFX has a button that simulates the sound of one of the expensive tube marshall amps


Fender Stratocaster HSS
LTD EC-400AT
Traynor YCV-50 Blue
Peavey Envoy 110

Wishlist: Hamer USA Explorer, Gibson Explorer
#18
Well, they sound different.
A humbucker won't sound any near as "tradtionally" good for blues, funk, country, and some styles of classic rock.
A single coil won't be able to pull of thick metal tones almost ever.
It doesn't make them better or more valuable though.
It's a preference thing, really. If you want to play heavier stuff, you'd probably want something with a humbucker in the bridge.
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#19
Yea my general understanding is that the humbucker is better for "heavier" stuff. To be honest, at the moment a better guitar won't make me a better guitar player, but I also no longer want to play my Squier since it's signed (and the action is too high), so I will be needing a guitar sometime to replace that, that's why i was lookin at the mexican strat. I offered this person with the single coil Strat $300 (the one that they first claimed was HSS), will see what they say.

I do like some "heavier" stuff, I mean my favorite genre is hard rock, but to be honest, I also like blues and stuff. So far from all guitars I've played, I've enjoyed the few acoustics I've tried as much as the electrics. (i dont have any acoustic guitar).
my MG15DFX has a button that simulates the sound of one of the expensive tube marshall amps


Fender Stratocaster HSS
LTD EC-400AT
Traynor YCV-50 Blue
Peavey Envoy 110

Wishlist: Hamer USA Explorer, Gibson Explorer
#20
Quote by MustangSVT
Really? Ever since I've been playing my friend's PRS, I like the tone of that guitar so much more than my Squier and on my Squier, the tone of the bridge is probably my least favorite.

I don't know all that much really about guitars though, so . I figured that a HSS Strat would probably sound better to me than a regular strat, but I could be wrong.

Well a lot of people like to have the option of a humbucker in the bridge, I was just pointing out that it shouldn't really have any bearing on how much you have to pay for the guitar.

The Mexi strat is probably routed for a humbucker anyway so if you do decide you want one you could get one installed, you'd just need to get a replacement pickguard to accomodate it....bear in mind you'll probably be a lot happier with your tone when you have a nicer amp.
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#21
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Well a lot of people like to have the option of a humbucker in the bridge, I was just pointing out that it shouldn't really have any bearing on how much you have to pay for the guitar.

The Mexi strat is probably routed for a humbucker anyway so if you do decide you want one you could get one installed, you'd just need to get a replacement pickguard to accomodate it....bear in mind you'll probably be a lot happier with your tone when you have a nicer amp.

This is what my friend told me. He said it's routed for a humbucker in the bridge and the neck pup too. He also said that there are some good humbuckers out that are single coil size such as Seymour Duncan Hot Rails.

Also, thank you for the helpful comments seagull and JaykeSucks.
my MG15DFX has a button that simulates the sound of one of the expensive tube marshall amps


Fender Stratocaster HSS
LTD EC-400AT
Traynor YCV-50 Blue
Peavey Envoy 110

Wishlist: Hamer USA Explorer, Gibson Explorer
#22
Well I bought the mexi strat. Only paid 340 for it. It's all single coil, but I played it on my Peavey amp and I thought it sounded good. I also had a friend with me (much more experienced than me), and he said it was an alright price for it, so I got it.

I cleaned the fretboard and the body and also re-stringed it with D'addario 9's. I thought it sounded much better after I put the 9s on it. I believe the strings that it came with on were 11s, or at least that it seemed like.

Anyway I like this guitar, plays a lot better than my Squier Strat. I will put the Squier Strat into retirement as of right now.

For now, the first order of business is to keep adding to the amp budget. Second order of business will probably be (after I get an amp at some point), to get a replacement nut for this mexi strat and some humbucker pickup for bridge that's as wide as a single coil. Will think about that one later at some point.

I will post some pictures of the guitar later this week.
my MG15DFX has a button that simulates the sound of one of the expensive tube marshall amps


Fender Stratocaster HSS
LTD EC-400AT
Traynor YCV-50 Blue
Peavey Envoy 110

Wishlist: Hamer USA Explorer, Gibson Explorer
Last edited by MustangSVT at Oct 6, 2008,
#23
Sorry no pictures guys, I've completely forgotten and was busy playing the guitar rather than photographing it.

Got a question regarding amp settings, maybe one of you guys could answer this. I will post in the amp settings sticky thread too I suppose. I was playing yesterday along with a bunch of songs, finding out what key they are in by ear, and then soloing in a pentatonic scale trying to go along with the song decently. What is the most general way to get that 80s hard rock "muffled" tone out of an amp such as the Roland Cube 30? Think songs by bands like Quiet Riot, Twisted Sister, Tesla.
my MG15DFX has a button that simulates the sound of one of the expensive tube marshall amps


Fender Stratocaster HSS
LTD EC-400AT
Traynor YCV-50 Blue
Peavey Envoy 110

Wishlist: Hamer USA Explorer, Gibson Explorer
#24
Umm...
Lots of gain, bit of reverb...
When I'm playing stuff like Mötley Crüe and stuff, I usually have it as about:
Presence - 8
Bass - 10
Mids - 7
Treble - 2

But then again, I have a really bright amp.
Put the bass and treble around 7, and just play around with the mids.
Scoop them (make them lower) for a really tight sound, boost them for a really open sound.
Good luck!
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#25
Quote by JaykeSucks
Umm...
Lots of gain, bit of reverb...
When I'm playing stuff like Mötley Crüe and stuff, I usually have it as about:
Presence - 8
Bass - 10
Mids - 7
Treble - 2

But then again, I have a really bright amp.
Put the bass and treble around 7, and just play around with the mids.
Scoop them (make them lower) for a really tight sound, boost them for a really open sound.
Good luck!

I found that the Amp settings thread is quite useful so I'll try out some of those. I will try yours out. And yes Motley Crue-like tone, that sorta stuff is what I'm looking for. Most of those "glam-metal" bands from 80s have a somewhat similar tone. They all got the bass pumped up. That's what I'm trying to get.
my MG15DFX has a button that simulates the sound of one of the expensive tube marshall amps


Fender Stratocaster HSS
LTD EC-400AT
Traynor YCV-50 Blue
Peavey Envoy 110

Wishlist: Hamer USA Explorer, Gibson Explorer
Last edited by MustangSVT at Oct 14, 2008,
#26
Just use the metal stack setting and tweak the EQ until it sounds right.
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#27
Bump, updated first post. December 1st, 2008
my MG15DFX has a button that simulates the sound of one of the expensive tube marshall amps


Fender Stratocaster HSS
LTD EC-400AT
Traynor YCV-50 Blue
Peavey Envoy 110

Wishlist: Hamer USA Explorer, Gibson Explorer
#28
Bump, updated 1st post on Feb 4, 2009.
my MG15DFX has a button that simulates the sound of one of the expensive tube marshall amps


Fender Stratocaster HSS
LTD EC-400AT
Traynor YCV-50 Blue
Peavey Envoy 110

Wishlist: Hamer USA Explorer, Gibson Explorer
#29
Out of the guitars, I'd say the Hamer, Jackson DK2M or the Godin, personally.
If you can find a second-hand Gibson Explorer Pro, I'd go for that too. Nicest guitar I've ever played (in my opinion, of course).
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#30
Hey Jayke, thanks for replying. I am gonna go to the guitar store sometime in the next month or so and try out a bunch of guitars including Jackson Dinky, Jackson Soloist, a Gibson Explorer and other guitars around the thousand dollar mark.
my MG15DFX has a button that simulates the sound of one of the expensive tube marshall amps


Fender Stratocaster HSS
LTD EC-400AT
Traynor YCV-50 Blue
Peavey Envoy 110

Wishlist: Hamer USA Explorer, Gibson Explorer
#31
What do you guys think of the Epiphone '58 Explorer? I'm saving up for a nice guitar, but I wouldn't mind to go cheaper. The more I think about it, I wouldn't mind the Epi. Let me know what you guys think. I could always get a pickup swap in the future if I got an Epiphone and maybe improve it a little bit, but I'd also want to make sure I got a guitar that overall felt better than my current Fender in terms of quality of the neck and hardware.
my MG15DFX has a button that simulates the sound of one of the expensive tube marshall amps


Fender Stratocaster HSS
LTD EC-400AT
Traynor YCV-50 Blue
Peavey Envoy 110

Wishlist: Hamer USA Explorer, Gibson Explorer
#32
The Epi is pretty nice. The Gibson is a huge step up in all around quality though, so it'd probably be worth looking at.
Even if you swapped some of the Epi Explorer parts out, you still wouldn't have something up to the build quality of the Gibson.
With the Les Pauls and the SGs it's different though, the better Epi LPs are pretty close to the Gibsons in quality.
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