#1
Ok, I'm putting the original Gibson pickups back into my SG, everything is still wired up on them besides 6 things being clipped:

Both pickup connections to the volume pots (right connection), one wire randomly coming off the top of each of the volume pots (both supposed to go to middle position on switch?) and one coming from each of the middle connections (each goes to outside position on switch?)

I've wired it up exactly how my SG Standard is, but still - neither pickup position produces any sound (The bridge pickup did work at one point, then we went back to see why the other two positions didn't work... and then the bridge no longer worked again).

The wiring is setup exactly like this:

http://www.guitarelectronics.com/product/WDUHH3T2201

Any idea what's wrong? I've been tryin to figure this thing out for the past 3 hours and it's REALLY getting annoying.
Quote by Dave_Mc
I've had tube amps for a while now, but never actually had any go down on me
Quote by jj1565
maybe you're not saying the right things? an amp likes to know you care.





www.SanctityStudios.com
#2
help the man!!! It is my guitar he's re-wiring
05' G&L S-500
95' Godin LGX

96' Yamaha APX 6-A

Peavey Classic 30
Maxon OD808
#3
The wires soldered to the tops of the pots should go to ground, not the selector. THe middle space on the selector should go to the output jack. But yes, the middle connectors on the vol. pots go to the outer spaces on the selector. Make sure you have the pots going to the correct space, or else the selector will be reversed (ie. neck when bridge is selected and vice versa)

EDIT: Irrelevant to the wiring, but I just noticed that there are 2 neck pickups in that diagram?
Last edited by Pyrofretnic at Sep 23, 2008,
#4
Oh hmm, interesting - both are wired to the middle position on my SG Standard and it works fine? I'll give it a try lol.

Quote by Pyrofretnic
Irrelevant to the wiring, but I just noticed that there are 2 neck pickups in that diagram?


Yeah I noticed that too, no idea
Quote by Dave_Mc
I've had tube amps for a while now, but never actually had any go down on me
Quote by jj1565
maybe you're not saying the right things? an amp likes to know you care.





www.SanctityStudios.com
#5
I'm using a switch like this:



It has 3 connections at the top (bottom in the picture) - currently the outer two are connected with a wire to each of the middle positions on the volume pots - the middle is connected to the two coming off the tops off the volume pots.

It has 2 connections at the bottom - both are pushed together and are connected to the wire running to the input.


So I should reverse the wiring between the input and the wires on the volume pots then, correct?
Quote by Dave_Mc
I've had tube amps for a while now, but never actually had any go down on me
Quote by jj1565
maybe you're not saying the right things? an amp likes to know you care.





www.SanctityStudios.com
#6
No more help?

Switching the wiring around didn't do anything.
Quote by Dave_Mc
I've had tube amps for a while now, but never actually had any go down on me
Quote by jj1565
maybe you're not saying the right things? an amp likes to know you care.





www.SanctityStudios.com
#7
Quote by MatrixClaw
No more help?

Switching the wiring around didn't do anything.

did you end up doing a complete re-wire? maybe one of the pots are shot or something
05' G&L S-500
95' Godin LGX

96' Yamaha APX 6-A

Peavey Classic 30
Maxon OD808
#8
Quote by MatrixClaw
(The bridge pickup did work at one point, then we went back to see why the other two positions didn't work... and then the bridge no longer worked again).
Quote by MatrixClaw
I'm using a switch like this:
the switch is likely your problem it works like this:

1 - there are 2 pairs of leaves.
2 - each pair controls one pickup
3 - the "normal" status, in the middle position has both leaves in their "relaxed" state.
the leaves make contact.
4 - when you put the lever in the bridge position, it pushes the leaves for the neck position apart.
5 - vice-versa when lever is in the neck position.


the leaves fatigue and lose their "springiness".
then the contact is intermittent or just fails completely.
with the switch in the middle position, you can probably get sound for a moment
if you manually press the leaves together.
this is assuming you haven't made any wiring mistakes.
Meadows
Quote by Jackal58
I release my inner liberal every morning when I take a shit.
Quote by SK8RDUDE411
I wont be like those jerks who dedicate their beliefs to logic and reaosn.
#9
Quote by SomeoneYouKnew
the switch is likely your problem it works like this:

1 - there are 2 pairs of leaves.
2 - each pair controls one pickup
3 - the "normal" status, in the middle position has both leaves in their "relaxed" state.
the leaves make contact.
4 - when you put the lever in the bridge position, it pushes the leaves for the neck position apart.
5 - vice-versa when lever is in the neck position.


the leaves fatigue and lose their "springiness".
then the contact is intermittent or just fails completely.
with the switch in the middle position, you can probably get sound for a moment
if you manually press the leaves together.
this is assuming you haven't made any wiring mistakes.

Thanks for the info. I do hear a little blip of something if i hold them together for a while, though it's not instantly.

I rewired it completely today and I got a few notes out of the neck pickup when i pushed its wire down the top of the pot. I figured that was just for ground and didn't bother wiring that in yet, so I soldered it onto the top... no sound again.

If it is the switch, I'd just have to buy another one?
Quote by Dave_Mc
I've had tube amps for a while now, but never actually had any go down on me
Quote by jj1565
maybe you're not saying the right things? an amp likes to know you care.





www.SanctityStudios.com
#10
Quote by MatrixClaw
If it is the switch, I'd just have to buy another one?
probably.
you could try bending the leaves, but you'll probably make it worse.
these switches are notoriously problematic.
the switchcraft brand is better than the stuff found in cheap imports.
but they all suffer from a lame design.
Meadows
Quote by Jackal58
I release my inner liberal every morning when I take a shit.
Quote by SK8RDUDE411
I wont be like those jerks who dedicate their beliefs to logic and reaosn.
#11
Hmm... I tried pulling the wires from the pickups through the cavity and the neck sounds distorted when it's supposed to be, but the bridge sounds clean on any setting...?
Quote by Dave_Mc
I've had tube amps for a while now, but never actually had any go down on me
Quote by jj1565
maybe you're not saying the right things? an amp likes to know you care.





www.SanctityStudios.com
#12
how's the height of the bridge pickup compared with the strings?
Meadows
Quote by Jackal58
I release my inner liberal every morning when I take a shit.
Quote by SK8RDUDE411
I wont be like those jerks who dedicate their beliefs to logic and reaosn.
#13
Quote by SomeoneYouKnew
how's the height of the bridge pickup compared with the strings?

A lot closer than the neck pickup lol.

The bridge pickup is as high as it can go without coming out.
Quote by Dave_Mc
I've had tube amps for a while now, but never actually had any go down on me
Quote by jj1565
maybe you're not saying the right things? an amp likes to know you care.





www.SanctityStudios.com
#14
If I were to wire the pickup directly to the input, would it produce sound, just to start eliminating possibilities of things being bad?
Quote by Dave_Mc
I've had tube amps for a while now, but never actually had any go down on me
Quote by jj1565
maybe you're not saying the right things? an amp likes to know you care.





www.SanctityStudios.com