#1

Before I say anything else, I must say that the search bar has failed me and I can't seem to find the Orange Amps thread.

Anyway, I have been looking at the Tiny Terror, I plan to play some metal with it (I prefer the sound of a boosted British amp like an Orange) and of course blues and jazz. My only problem is the wattage. I may be playing in some fairly sized gigs and there is a

Oh, and I forgot to mention. I'll probably be getting an avatar 2x12 cab with two Celestion V30's, as I don't have much money to spend on the cabinet.

Anyway, I have been looking at the Tiny Terror, I plan to play some metal with it (I prefer the sound of a boosted British amp like an Orange) and of course blues and jazz. My only problem is the wattage. I may be playing in some fairly sized gigs and there is a

*slight*chance that I wont be able to mic the amp up to the PA system. How does the amp sound fully cranked on top of full gain with an OD in front. Will it sound muddy or will it enhance the sound/make no difference? I'd appreciate the help.Oh, and I forgot to mention. I'll probably be getting an avatar 2x12 cab with two Celestion V30's, as I don't have much money to spend on the cabinet.

#2

I can't exactly remember how it sounded fully cranked when I last played one (and it was a 4X12). I know it was loud though, so you might be okay. If you want a reference point, if you've played a 50 watt tube amp, look at this comparison. (A fellow UGer posted this way back, sorry man, I don't remember who you are, or credit would be given)

Amp Volume Comparison

40 watts is 94% as loud as 50 watts.

30 watts is 86% as loud as 50 watts.

25 watts is 81% as loud as 50 watts.

22 watts is 78% as loud as 50 watts.

20 watts is 76% as loud as 50 watts.

18 watts is 74% as loud as 50 watts.

15 watts is 70% as loud as 50 watts.

12 watts is 65% as loud as 50 watts.

10 watts is 62% as loud as 50 watts.

9 watts is 60% as loud as 50 watts.

8 watts is 56% as loud as 50 watts.

7 watts is 55% as loud as 50 watts.

6 watts is 53% as loud as 50 watts.

5 watts is 50% as loud as 50 watts.

4 watts is 47% as loud as 50 watts.

3 watts is 43% as loud as 50 watts.

2 watts is 38% as loud as 50 watts.

1 watt is 31% as loud as 50 watts.

So 50 watts could handle a gig, I'm gonna say that a fully cranked TT could as well.

Amp Volume Comparison

40 watts is 94% as loud as 50 watts.

30 watts is 86% as loud as 50 watts.

25 watts is 81% as loud as 50 watts.

22 watts is 78% as loud as 50 watts.

20 watts is 76% as loud as 50 watts.

18 watts is 74% as loud as 50 watts.

15 watts is 70% as loud as 50 watts.

12 watts is 65% as loud as 50 watts.

10 watts is 62% as loud as 50 watts.

9 watts is 60% as loud as 50 watts.

8 watts is 56% as loud as 50 watts.

7 watts is 55% as loud as 50 watts.

6 watts is 53% as loud as 50 watts.

5 watts is 50% as loud as 50 watts.

4 watts is 47% as loud as 50 watts.

3 watts is 43% as loud as 50 watts.

2 watts is 38% as loud as 50 watts.

1 watt is 31% as loud as 50 watts.

So 50 watts could handle a gig, I'm gonna say that a fully cranked TT could as well.

#3

Thanks a ton! That is much better than I figured.I can't exactly remember how it sounded fully cranked when I last played one (and it was a 4X12). I know it was loud though, so you might be okay. If you want a reference point, if you've played a 50 watt tube amp, look at this comparison. (A fellow UGer posted this way back, sorry man, I don't remember who you are, or credit would be given)

Amp Volume Comparison

40 watts is 94% as loud as 50 watts.

30 watts is 86% as loud as 50 watts.

25 watts is 81% as loud as 50 watts.

22 watts is 78% as loud as 50 watts.

20 watts is 76% as loud as 50 watts.

18 watts is 74% as loud as 50 watts.

15 watts is 70% as loud as 50 watts.

12 watts is 65% as loud as 50 watts.

10 watts is 62% as loud as 50 watts.

9 watts is 60% as loud as 50 watts.

8 watts is 56% as loud as 50 watts.

7 watts is 55% as loud as 50 watts.

6 watts is 53% as loud as 50 watts.

5 watts is 50% as loud as 50 watts.

4 watts is 47% as loud as 50 watts.

3 watts is 43% as loud as 50 watts.

2 watts is 38% as loud as 50 watts.

1 watt is 31% as loud as 50 watts.

So 50 watts could handle a gig, I'm gonna say that a fully cranked TT could as well.

#4

Thanks a ton! That is much better than I figured.

Anytime!

#5

its worth noting that wattage and volume is a little more complex than people like to imply. furthermore, questions of headroom and perceived volume come into play; ie, a 15 watt amp may be able to be 70% as loud as a 50 watt amp (whatever that is supposed to mean), but it doesn't mean that the sound will carry as well or that it'll sound good at that volume.

#6

Also, the speakers make a huge difference to the loudness. 1 watt of acoustic energy is extremely loud, but it requires about 120w of amp. A 15w amp with a more efficient than usual set of speakers could be almost as loud.