#1
i heard that justin chancellor uses one

does anybody have any experience with one on a bass?
how does it sound?
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#3
you have a point there. he is very godly, but i just wanted to see if anybody had tried it out for themselves.
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#4
They're good for bass, good not great, the purpose of them is to be a cheap decent pedal so there are better ones that you can get but it's not bad.
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#5
Remember Justin runs 2 clean signals under his distorted one.

ProCo do a bass distortion, so that may be worth checking out, if you don't use a biamped or blended rig.

Remember he also uses a Coloursound Fuzz and a Sansamp guitar distortion (I think, it isn't just the RAT at any rate).
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#6
Ive tried out the RAT on my bass and it didnt give a nice tone, it might ive you ran 2 signals but it was too fuzzy and just obviously sounded like with a band i would become another guitar.

On the other hand i then tried the juggernaught which is the same thing but for bass and its immense, with a similar price tag but it gives a really good range of useable tones like just slightly over driven or crunchy to something gritty but not an absolute mess. It's just got a good control over the tone mostly becuase of the 'mix' dial.

So I'd say try out the juggernaught.
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#7
Don't forget, Justin uses a RAT modded by Robert Keeley for bass. That's really important... KEELY IMPORTANT!
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#8
theres this guy on youtube with the user name TOOLbassplayer and hes got Justin's tone DOWN one of his vids is a "tour" of his rig/pedal board where he demonstrates his setting and functions of his sweet gear...

also i dont know that you are attempting to emulate Justin's sound per se but if you are you WILL NEED the elusive Digitech bass WHAMMY pedal you can get one on the bay for just under $700....sucks i want one sooo bad....

the whammy is also demonstrated in his vids check em out he plays the songs with/without his guitarist friend and he plays the tunes to a T...
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Actually, they have stopped doing RATs ATM, because the quality on them from the factory has fallen so low. They need you to send in your own one that must be made before a certain date.
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My God, does Gibson make RAT pedals now?
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I think they are sourcing them from china now, and apparently they aren't getting the same skill for less money, as some companies manage to do.
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Ive tried out the RAT on my bass and it didnt give a nice tone, it might ive you ran 2 signals but it was too fuzzy and just obviously sounded like with a band i would become another guitar.

On the other hand i then tried the juggernaught which is the same thing but for bass and its immense, with a similar price tag but it gives a really good range of useable tones like just slightly over driven or crunchy to something gritty but not an absolute mess. It's just got a good control over the tone mostly becuase of the 'mix' dial.

So I'd say try out the juggernaught.


thanks for the suggestion
i think i will try the juggernaught

and im not trying to emulate justins sound i was just interested in the distortion pedal
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also i dont know that you are attempting to emulate Justin's sound per se but if you are you WILL NEED the elusive Digitech bass WHAMMY pedal you can get one on the bay for just under $700....sucks i want one sooo bad....


I'm not going to get all hissy about this because there is no point, likewise I'm not going to go into huge detail the differences between the two (Pro's/Con's. Etc), but to be completely honest you can use the current issue guitar one to just the same effect, minus the oct. up/ fifth up harmony. To remedy this you can go on the bay and get an old Whammy Xp100 model, which has all the settings the bass one does and more, for around $200USD last time I checked. The bass tracking is what the purists and the like will start shouting about, but if you are using the whammy for TooL playing, I guarantee you will never have to play on the low string anyway, as Justin never does so.


Believe me, I've been through all this before.... Justin fanboy right here

I'm sorry to the TS, I haven't had experience with RAT's, therefore I can't comment.
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I'm not going to get all hissy about this because there is no point, likewise I'm not going to go into huge detail the differences between the two (Pro's/Con's. Etc), but to be completely honest you can use the current issue guitar one to just the same effect, minus the oct. up/ fifth up harmony. To remedy this you can go on the bay and get an old Whammy Xp100 model, which has all the settings the bass one does and more, for around $200USD last time I checked. The bass tracking is what the purists and the like will start shouting about, but if you are using the whammy for TooL playing, I guarantee you will never have to play on the low string anyway, as Justin never does so.


Believe me, I've been through all this before.... Justin fanboy right here

I'm sorry to the TS, I haven't had experience with RAT's, therefore I can't comment.


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