#1
A while ago I asked if I should get the ampeg BA115, and then I was told about Ashdown. I went to my music store and tried Ashdown amps and found I loved the tone more.

I am thinking of getting a Ashdown ABM 410T 4x10 which is 600 Watts, but I don't know what head to get. I was thinking a MAG 600H head, but I don't know anything about amp - cabinet things. I know the watts need to be the same, but I'm confused.

What head do I need for a 8 Ohm 600 watt 4x10 cab?

CAB: http://bass-guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Ashdown-ABM-410T-4X10-Bass-Speaker-Cabinet-with-Tweeter?sku=605024

Also, I can get the 4 Ohm one.
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Last edited by abornael at Sep 26, 2008,
#2
An Ashdown ABM head would be the best bet the ABM 500? and I think you should get the 4 ohm one as then you will not need two cabs if the head is 4 ohms.
Gear:

Musicman SUB 5
Ibanez SRX305
Ibanez GSR200
Ashdown MAG300 C115
Ashdown MAG 210 cab

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#3
Quote by Rywad
An Ashdown ABM head would be the best bet the ABM 500? and I think you should get the 4 ohm one as then you will not need two cabs if the head is 4 ohms.

Um that didnt make much sense the abm cab runs at 8 ohms so youll need two of them to run it at 4 ohms and at full power. But i agree that you should get the abm head its much better sound and quality its a bit more but its worth it.
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#4
He means if you want full power through just one cab, then get the 4 ohm Ashdown cab. Which is good advice.
#5
The wattage of the cabs need to be higher than that of the head. Underpowering too much can be a problem, but far better than overpowering them.

A 4 ohm cab will (in most situations, some heads can handle 2 ohms, but ignore that for now) get the most power out of a head. An 8 ohm cab will get a bit over half.

However, if you later get another 8 ohm cab, then can be used by the head at the same time to get a total resistance of 4 ohms, so getting the total power with more speaker area. More speakers means a little more volume for the same power, and also you can more easily combine cabs with different speaker configurations in order to change the way your heads tone is projected.
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#6
Sorry i didnt relise there was o 4 ohm ashdown 4x10. but i still would rcommend getting the 8 ohm one running through abm evo 2 600 and then adding a a 1x15 or something for low end. it ill still run at about 300 watts through 8 ohms.
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#7
Thanks Boyce, not making much sense seems to be one of my traits, just got back from band practice I used the ABM300 Evo1 (like i always do for practice as thats what they have at the studio i use) for the last couple of hours. Nice amp but I wouldn't reccomend it, unless you got the Evo 2 as the evo 1 quite frankly lacks some safety features. Like for instance at like 12 o' clock volume it hits the red on the VU, where the evo 2's take quite a bit to get into the red. Also it was paired with a 1x15 & 2x10 cab, like the 3 speaker ones.

Also Jack, you ever been to Cell studios (used to be Impact studios) in Cemetery junction? Thats where I practice
Gear:

Musicman SUB 5
Ibanez SRX305
Ibanez GSR200
Ashdown MAG300 C115
Ashdown MAG 210 cab

Soon a Fender Deluxe Jazz V & an LTD 206
#8
How does it sound, Rywad? The vu isn't that accurate - if you don't hear clipping from the preamp then there's no need to worry if it's in the red. Are you using the compressor? (does your version have a compressor?)
#9
Theres no compressor on this one, the amp is pretty much in a state of disrepair. When you slap a little bit too hard you get what sounds like a kick drum. When the EQ is pretty high it starts to fart and make problems. Surprisingly I find my MAG better. But I think a Evo II ABM would shit on it. I don't want to mess about too much with it cause I'm not really in a position to pay for the damages. Keep meaning to try a evo II just to see how much better it is. But yeah a MAG is better than an ABM300 Evo I (cheaper too!).

It also worries me that with no tone up on my bass that the VU is always in the red if I play fairly aggressively with a pick and similarly when I play nicely with my fingers. Guess its getting old.

Also I nearly cried at college today, saw what looked like a late 90's (could be older) Fender Jazz I suspect its MIM but it didn't have it plastered all over it so it 'could' be an MIA which makes this sadder. Completely dented up and dirty. I felt like offering a couple of hundred & a replacement bass to give it a better home.
Gear:

Musicman SUB 5
Ibanez SRX305
Ibanez GSR200
Ashdown MAG300 C115
Ashdown MAG 210 cab

Soon a Fender Deluxe Jazz V & an LTD 206
Last edited by Rywad at Sep 26, 2008,
#10
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Also Jack, you ever been to Cell studios (used to be Impact studios) in Cemetery junction? Thats where I practice


I know where you are talking about. A little place that looks pretty run down?
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#11
Yeah, they're pretty decent inside. Got some crappy Line 6 half-stacks and some ABMs, nice little place. Its only £5 an hour. There doing some refurbishing at the moment, the whole soundproofing is kinda gone.
Gear:

Musicman SUB 5
Ibanez SRX305
Ibanez GSR200
Ashdown MAG300 C115
Ashdown MAG 210 cab

Soon a Fender Deluxe Jazz V & an LTD 206
#12
I second the ABM head recommendation =)

I purchased the 500 evo 3 recently (the one with on-board compressor) and it's a beaut. EQ unit is the most concise I've had on a bass amp. Each twiddly bit and each slidy bit actually does something!

Tube preamp's gawwwjus too.

So in general, lovely lovely amp (: there's also the Ashdown mag range, but compared to the ABM they're a bit lacking. I hear Gallien Krueger (spelling?) also do some decent heads for not too much at all.
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