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#1
Ouch, I know this seems super corny. but whatever, i gotta write an essay on it and i'm lacking ideas. what would you change about civilization that would make it better?

I'm leaning toward more renewable resources and hybrid/electric cars. Also to stop war. Recycling is good too. What else am i missing?

Also whos a history junkie? What past civilizations failed?

Do you believe this quote?
"Most of civilization is artificial; everything we have and do is a mere construct to mask survival strategies. Libraries preserves our knowledge so that our later generations improve on our success (and hopefully learn from our mistakes) so that our particular culture subset survives.

Armies exist to protect our genetic material. TV, videogames, movies, music.. all really exist to keep us pacified so that we remain content and within our culture and “civilization.” Exercise keeps us healthy and attractive to the opposite sex so our genetic material continues."
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Irradicate any existence of the Slave Trade.
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#3
Make countries communist, run by logical people so it doesn't turn out like China, where everyone is sort of equal, and happy.
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#6
Romans, Persians, Greeks, Indians, Egyptians all failed...

i would just get rid of all fossil fuels. and more scientific research for research sake.
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#7
Less Nationalism
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#8
I'd get rid of 4chan.
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#9
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Romans, Persians, Greeks, Indians, Egyptians all failed...

i would just get rid of all fossil fuels. and more scientific research for research sake.


Oh yeah, ive heard of them failing. Do you know how some of these civilizations failed?
#10
An actual free country free of consumerism, free of all this shitty mainstream media, free of corporations and greedy f*ckers.
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Make countries communist, run by logical people so it doesn't turn out like China, where everyone is sort of equal, and happy.


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An actual free country free of consumerism, free of all this shitty mainstream media, free of corporations and greedy f*ckers.


How trite, it's sort of cute.
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#12
Make it so we all live in caves again. It could be like the flintstones
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#13
Give everyone a gun and ammo. No one will **** with anyone. Peoples that are bent on killing will all kill themselves out. Leaving the world a peacfeul place. Or everything will get totally fked cuz everyones running around with guns. I havent really thought this one through, jsut thought i'd throw it out there.

On a more realistc note, i'd use gene technology to breed away(slightly alter the genes of fetuses) genetic diseases and develop gene vaccines(which make you immune to contagious diseases such as flu, aids etc.)
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Oh yeah, ive heard of them failing. Do you know how some of these civilizations failed?


They didnt use the search bar or google
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#16
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Make countries communist, run by logical people so it doesn't turn out like China, where everyone is sort of equal, and happy.


Wow, restricted peoples freedoms to make choices and live a free life? sounds like a plan
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#17
wikipedia is your friend, and the civilization of Easter Island

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I find it quite sad.


I suppose that's another way of putting it.
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#20
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Make country communist, run by logical people so it doesn't turn out like China, where everyone is sort of equal, and happy.
a truly communist country wouldn't be run by anyone

but +1
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Wow, restricted peoples freedoms to make choices and live a free life? sounds like a plan


"those who condemn socialism only do so because they do not understand it"

i forget who said that, but it is ringin' true in this thread
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#21
Get rid of shitty governements and focus on getting robots to run the economy while we humans sit around drinking, playing guitar and doing other leisurely things.
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#22
I would change civilization by nuking everyone that doesn't look like us, or speak our language. A world of W.A.S.P's would be perfect. That's what we're supposed to say, right?
#24
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"those who condemn socialism only do so because they do not understand it"

i forget who said that, but it is ringin' true in this thread

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#26
Let Italy take over everything.
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a truly communist country wouldn't be run by anyone

but +1

"those who condemn socialism only do so because they do not understand it"

i forget who said that, but it is ringin' true in this thread


Socialism and communism are too different economic systems..

I really think the U.S. has the perfect system but it takes the effort of everyone to make the system work like it did during Reagan..

Also I think people who believe that getting rid of all diseases is the most idiotic belief EVER. We have six billion people and growing on this earth, we honestly don't need more.. and if people lived forever think of social security..
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a truly communist country wouldn't be run by anyone

but +1

"those who condemn socialism only do so because they do not understand it"

i forget who said that, but it is ringin' true in this thread



Im sure I could find a quote that says just the opposite. And for the record, I do understand communism, and most other systems to a certain degree, its something I've learned about in my 2 years of studying politics and ideologies.
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#31
Abolish all thoughts and opinions and make the entire world communist, which could easily work if everyone was brainwashed beforehand.
#32
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Why is that?

Because the two were glorifying a political system that has proven inferior to western democracy in most ways, concerning personal freedom and rights as well as scientific and economic progress.
I know the phrase 'everybody should be equal' sounds nice, but this can hardly be what we want - I thought people were big on individuality. Therefore, we must offer equal chances for everybody, to emphasize on the individuals development. I think that's the best way, and this can be done through governmental (sp?) institutions responsible for school, healthcare, etc. without the need for full-scale communism.

In short:
socialism paired with western democracy - yay
communism - nay
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#33
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Socialism and communism are too different economic systems..

I really think the U.S. has the perfect system but it takes the effort of everyone to make the system work like it did during Reagan.
Reagan? Seriously? Trickle-down economics?

Reagan increased US national debt by over a third on his own. Wow, those economic policies worked
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#34
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Because the two were glorifying a political system that has proven inferior to western democracy in most ways, concerning personal freedom and rights as well as scientific and economic progress.
I know the phrase 'everybody should be equal' sounds nice, but this can hardly be what we want - I thought people were big on individuality. Therefore, we must offer equal chances for everybody, to emphasize on the individuals development. I think that's the best way, and this can be done through governmental (sp?) institutions responsible for school, healthcare, etc. without the need for full-scale communism.


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#35
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1) Socialism and communism are too different economic systems..

2) I really think the U.S. has the perfect system but it takes the effort of everyone to make the system work like it did during Reagan..

3) Also I think people who believe that getting rid of all diseases is the most idiotic belief EVER. We have six billion people and growing on this earth, we honestly don't need more.. and if people lived forever think of social security..
1) they're 2 different phases.. as in, one is supposed to lead to the other

2-3) just... wow.

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Im sure I could find a quote that says just the opposite. And for the record, I do understand communism, and most other systems to a certain degree, its something I've learned about in my 2 years of studying politics and ideologies.
not flaming, but i don't think ya do man, not completely... or else you wouldn't have mde such an ignorant comment
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Because the two were glorifying a political system that has proven inferior to western democracy in most ways, concerning personal freedom and rights as well as scientific and economic progress.
I know the phrase 'everybody should be equal' sounds nice, but this can hardly be what we want - I thought people were big on individuality. Therefore, we must offer equal chances for everybody, to emphasize on the individuals development. I think that's the best way, and this can be done through governmental (sp?) institutions responsible for school, healthcare, etc. without the need for full-scale communism.

Yeah, communism is a nice utopian idea and all but it just doesn't work.
#39
We just talked about this in government class...and i believe a true communist government would work...communism doesnt limit peoples freedoms they would still be able to become what they want because there wouldnt be someone in charge to tell them what to do or not do...if it was communist then one man would make clothes for the man that raises crops because the man needs clothes and everyone needs food...so there is no money traded just pure goods...i think if communism was reached in a peaceful way and run properly it would be very good indeed
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Because the two were glorifying a political system that has proven inferior to western democracy in most ways, concerning personal freedom and rights as well as scientific and economic progress.
I know the phrase 'everybody should be equal' sounds nice, but this can hardly be what we want - I thought people were big on individuality. Therefore, we must offer equal chances for everybody, to emphasize on the individuals development. I think that's the best way, and this can be done through governmental (sp?) institutions responsible for school, healthcare, etc. without the need for full-scale communism.

In short:
socialism paired with western democracy - yay
communism - nay


I think Germany has a great way of running things.

You go to school, and at a young age you already know what you're going to do. You have a choice, but after that choice, that is your main focus. No longer do you have situations where you want to be a scientist but have to get that one art credit to pass. You do what you want, and only have to worry about that.

So maybe Communism wasn't the best choice, but a sort of combination of Communism and Democracy... if that makes sense...

Or that^
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