Tzeel
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#1
On my search for a new amplifier i have pretty much come to decide between these two. I wanted a Bugera for the amazing versatility (everybody likes to wander to high gain too once in a while) but the unreliability is just too much for me.

I play mostly progressive and classic rock, but i would like the amp to have at least a respectable mid-gain sound (yes, i'm ready to invest in pedals) SO my main point is, which of these is better dirty-wise. And well, all-wise as well.

Ps. I hear that the Peavey has 7 tubes and as i haven't owned a tube amp before and don't know enough about them i'd like to know does that equal to lots of expenses .(during switches, etc.)

Thanks in advance.


Well, my deal went off. 3 hours before i was supposed to order the Peavey it was gone. Three weeks it could wait but not 3 hours.

Now it's 950€ and that's too much.

I'm now propably between Engl Screamer, Marshall JCM2000 DSL-401 and Bugera 333XL-212.

I would instantly buy the Bugera but i'm pretty afraid of the reliability issues.

Any word on these amps?
My gear:

Schecter C-1 Classic
Squier Fat Strat Deluxe
Yamaha FG700 Acoustic
Old Nylonstrung Acoustic

Peavey Classic 50w 2/12
Roland Cube 30X
Roland Cube 60 (30~ years old)
Vox 847A Wah Pedal
Digitech Bad Monkey
Old Ibanez Rack Delay
Last edited by Tzeel at Oct 2, 2008,
BHowell
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#2
For mid-gain overdrive, the Peavey Classic 50 all the way. Fenders are awesome clean.....however, the Peavey will do a great classic rock tone on its overdrive channel with a few knob turns. The Hot Rod Deluxe was not designed for that.

Granted, you can mess with it enough with a few pedals so you could get that tone out of it. But you may only want one pedal to use with the Peavey to get your sound.....the Hot Rod won't get you that close with several pedals without a fight. In the end, you should pick what YOU think sounds best for you, but I'll bet that the Classic 50 will be pretty much what you're looking for. It's also a lot more versatile....it can do pretty much anything but metal, while the Hot Rod Deluxe is best for blues and clean or only moderately dirty '60s rock.

As for tubes....I'd say a basic rule of thumb is to expect to replace your tubes every year or two. Granted, some people are harder on their amps than others, but if you take care of your amp and use your standby properly and some other minor care things, you shouldn't have any tube problems besides normal wear and tear to deal with, if the amp is well-designed and isn't a lemon. There's a lot more detailed stuff about tubes and their ins and outs on this site....do some searching, they'll tell you all you need to know.
Last edited by BHowell at Sep 28, 2008,
Tzeel
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#3
Thanks a lot. I can get a pretty awesome deal on the peavey as its around 1250€ around her and i can get it for 760€ basically brand new.
My gear:

Schecter C-1 Classic
Squier Fat Strat Deluxe
Yamaha FG700 Acoustic
Old Nylonstrung Acoustic

Peavey Classic 50w 2/12
Roland Cube 30X
Roland Cube 60 (30~ years old)
Vox 847A Wah Pedal
Digitech Bad Monkey
Old Ibanez Rack Delay
scott58
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#4
I plugged into a bunch of amps yesterday The hot rod was 1 of them. they didn't have the 50 but they had the classic 30. Had I been amp shopping i would have gotten the classic 30.
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Dean V-Wing
Dean ML 79 SilverBurst
MXR M 108
Skreddy Lunar Module
H2O Chorus/Echo
Valve Junior (V3 Head/Cab and Combo)
Phonic 620 Power Pod PA
Wampler Super Plextortion
Line 6 Pod XT live
timzee117
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#5
take from a hrd owner. the drive sucks, even with hours of eqing and pedals :'(

id trade it for a c30 anyday

07 Fender American Deluxe Strat
07 Fender Custom Telecaster
09 Seymour Duncan Pickup Booster
09 Fulltone OCD V.4
10 Ibanez WH-10 V.2
09 Splawn SuperStock
10 Jet City JCA-20
97 Fender Hot Rod Deluxe

Yeh the SICK! bit sounds a bit stupid.

Kevin Saale
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#6
I'd go for the peavey. Having owned a HRD I can attest to the the crappy drive channel. The cleans were awesome, wouldn't mind having it around to AB with my Mesa.
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lemonsquares42
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#7
Whoa, where do you live? I assumed you lived in the US at first, but if not, then you might be much better off getting something else. That doesn't sound like a very good deal for the Peavey.
Kevin Saale
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#8
That's not a bad price, it's like 600 bucks.
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lemonsquares42
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#9
Yeah, but for the money, he might be able to get something better over there. I'm not too sure about the prices over in Finland, but I would keep your options open to more than just those 2 amps.
Last edited by lemonsquares42 at Sep 28, 2008,
Kevin Saale
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#10
True, I see what you're saying.
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Tzeel
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#12
Quote by lemonsquares42
Yeah, but for the money, he might be able to get something better over there. I'm not too sure about the prices over in Finland, but I would keep your options open to more than just those 2 amps.


I've been amp shopping for about a year and pretty much everything costs way more than everything in Finland. Hot Rod DLX is 700€ (And that's a good deal as well here)
My gear:

Schecter C-1 Classic
Squier Fat Strat Deluxe
Yamaha FG700 Acoustic
Old Nylonstrung Acoustic

Peavey Classic 50w 2/12
Roland Cube 30X
Roland Cube 60 (30~ years old)
Vox 847A Wah Pedal
Digitech Bad Monkey
Old Ibanez Rack Delay
danyellenik
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#15
classic 30= pure sex
05' G&L S-500
95' Godin LGX

96' Yamaha APX 6-A

Peavey Classic 30
Maxon OD808
Tzeel
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#16
Well, my deal went off. 3 hours before i was supposed to order the Peavey it was gone. Three weeks it could wait but not 3 hours.

Now it's 950€ and that's too much.

I'm now propably between Engl Screamer, Marshall JCM2000 DSL-401 and Bugera 333XL-212.

I would instantly buy the Bugera but i'm pretty afraid of the reliability issues.

Any word on these amps?
My gear:

Schecter C-1 Classic
Squier Fat Strat Deluxe
Yamaha FG700 Acoustic
Old Nylonstrung Acoustic

Peavey Classic 50w 2/12
Roland Cube 30X
Roland Cube 60 (30~ years old)
Vox 847A Wah Pedal
Digitech Bad Monkey
Old Ibanez Rack Delay