#2
144 Euros = $206
For around $200 you could get a Mackie Onyx Satellite but I dont think you need such a high end setup when starting out, (although it is somewhat nice to have at times...). Also the Mackie doesnt work on vista at this time.

I suggest getting the [/url=http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/PreSonus-INSPIRE-1394-FireWire-Audio-Interface?sku=241483]PreSonus Inspire 1394 (which can be found for $150) or a url=http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/EMu-0202-USB-2.0-Audio-interface?sku=240552]EMU 0202 USB.

If you only need to record one mic the EMU is a nice unit for you. It has a good amount of features and the USB 2.0 connection is fast. It will also save you money.
The 57 is a nice mic to start with as well, it's great for a lot of things but IMO it isnt great for vocals, (on some people) or acoustic guitar.

The PreSonus and Mackie are firewire units so be sure your have a firewire port on your computer if you get one of them. You can add a firewire card into a desktop for cheap an easily these days though. Laptops will cost a little more to do that same thing...
Last edited by moody07747 at Sep 29, 2008,
#3
Quote by helsinki_vampir
So I want to get started recording myself.
It's just guitar recording, nothing els for now.
Is this a good setup?

Mic: http://www.thomann.de/se/shure_sm57_lc.htm
Recording interface: http://www.thomann.de/se/alesis_io2.htm
Software: Audacity or Cubase Le
+ cables and mic-stand.


That'll work well. I recommend shopping around...I've seen the Alesis for ~$110 American, so it could be cheaper somewhere else (hopefully). Have fun.
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#4
144 Euros = $206
For around $200 you could get a Mackie Onyx Satellite but I dont think you need such a high end setup when starting out, (although it is somewhat nice to have at times...). Also the Mackie doesnt work on vista at this time.

I suggest getting the [/url=http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/PreSonus-INSPIRE-1394-FireWire-Audio-Interface?sku=241483]PreSonus Inspire 1394 (which can be found for $150) or a url=http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/EMu-0202-USB-2.0-Audio-interface?sku=240552]EMU 0202 USB.

If you only need to record one mic the EMU is a nice unit for you. It has a good amount of features and the USB 2.0 connection is fast. It will also save you money.
The 57 is a nice mic to start with as well, it's great for a lot of things but IMO it isnt great for vocals, (on some people) or acoustic guitar.

The PreSonus and Mackie are firewire units so be sure your have a firewire port on your computer if you get one of them. You can add a firewire card into a desktop for cheap an easily these days though. Laptops will cost a little more to do that same thing...

found the mackie
http://www.thomann.de/se/mackie_onyx_satellite.htm

and the 2 others:
http://www.thomann.de/se/emu_0202_usb.htm
http://www.thomann.de/se/presonus_inspire.htm

Oh, and about the vista problem.
NOT a problem for me since I still run XP.
The setup I'm basically thinking of goes like this:

Guitar setup:
Ibanez S470/Ibanez ART120/Fender Telecaster > Korg Pitchblack > BYOC Tremolo > Digitech Whammy IV > Boss DD-2 > Danelectro Fish&Chips > MXR Phase 90 > Marshall JCM 800 2205 > Marshall 1960A

Recording setup:
direct recording out on the back of the Marshall into 1 input
Shure SM57 into Mic input

Wich one would be the best interface for this job?

Kramer Focus 3000
Ibanez ATK300
Rocktron Chameleon
Digitech IPS33B
Ibanez WH10
Korg Pitchblack
Line6 UX2
Last edited by helsinki_vampir at Sep 29, 2008,
#5
Any input?

Kramer Focus 3000
Ibanez ATK300
Rocktron Chameleon
Digitech IPS33B
Ibanez WH10
Korg Pitchblack
Line6 UX2
#6
why DI your amp if you are going to mic it?
simply mic it

If you are only looking to do a small amount of recording work, go with the PreSonus Inspire
If you are looking to do a little more work in the future go with the Mackie Satellite. The Satellite has slightly better preamps and more features for a more advanced setup but some home studio may not need these features and so why spend the extra cash on it?

That's just my thought...
#7
Quote by moody07747
why DI your amp if you are going to mic it?
simply mic it


To mix both signals together. Thats why I', looking into interfaces with at least 2 channels.

Kramer Focus 3000
Ibanez ATK300
Rocktron Chameleon
Digitech IPS33B
Ibanez WH10
Korg Pitchblack
Line6 UX2
#8
Quote by helsinki_vampir
To mix both signals together. Thats why I', looking into interfaces with at least 2 channels.


In that case, get a reamp on top of your interface. Just stick the guitar in the interface, then take the output (or insert) of the channel to the reamper, then the amp itself, which you mike. The same performance fuels both tracks. This is what you need. If you want to do this, I heavily prefer the Mackie (which has insert points and balanced outs) over the Presonus.

A good advantage of this is that you can experiment with different microphone techniques with a proven performance. Here's a great article on that.
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Last edited by Fast_Fingers at Sep 29, 2008,
#9
Quote by Fast_Fingers
In that case, get a reamp on top of your interface. Just stick the guitar in the interface, then take the output (or insert) of the channel to the reamper, then the amp itself, which you mike. The same performance fuels both tracks. This is what you need. If you want to do this, I heavily prefer the Mackie (which has insert points and balanced outs) over the Presonus.

A good advantage of this is that you can experiment with different microphone techniques with a proven performance. Here's a great article on that.


Now you got me interested.
How exacly do I need to set everything up?

Kramer Focus 3000
Ibanez ATK300
Rocktron Chameleon
Digitech IPS33B
Ibanez WH10
Korg Pitchblack
Line6 UX2
#10
You'll need to dock the Mackie for the second chain.

Guitar - Instrument Cable - Mackie 1. Insert into the guitar port (it has a picture of a guitar by it).

Insert point of Mackie (it's labeled as such) - 1/4 balanced to XLR - Reamp - instrument cable - Amp

Amp - Microphone - XLR cable - Mackie 2.

Done. The great part is that after saving a performance, if you want to tweak the microphone's position or change amp settings, you can do so without a problem, and play the amp again without having to touch a guitar. Of course, nothing beats playing with your fingers, but this is fine in a pinch.
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Last edited by Fast_Fingers at Sep 29, 2008,