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#1
What are your thoughts on it? Personally I think it's asinine to ban a book in America when our first amendment clearly states that we have the freedom to speak freely without censorship or limitation. However a bunch of bitchy people and bitchy groups have to go and bitch about a book that they havent even probably read all the way through. I mean look at this list of books that have been banned

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_commonly_challenged_books_in_the_U.S.

The Giver, the Great Gatsby, Grapes of Wrath, the Call of the Wild, Huckleberry Fin!? Those are classics.

So just post your thoughts here about people that bitch entirely too much, or your opinions on censorship/banning.
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#3
Cat's Cradle???
those aren't banned books, those are just books stupid people think should be banned, right?
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#4
They have been banned in different schools throughout the US in one point or another. That is a list of the most common ones to be challenged.


Heres a list that gives reasons why

http://www.banned-books.com/bblista-i.html
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#6
Captain Underpants and Where's Waldo? are on the list
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#7
It is asinine. I've read both "The Giver" and "Catcher In The Rye" and they were both fantastic books. The public education system just wants to be able to tell you how to think and desensitize everybody, or at least whoever is trying to ban these books does. Honestly, the word "damn" isn't offensive, and I don't even remember any swears being in "The Giver"
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why wheres waldo what the ****
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#9
Any censorship is ridiculous. the government should never EVER be allowed to censor anything, bottom line. it should be, and ultimately is a persons choice to decide what they or their children can and cannot read or watch.

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"Where's Waldo? Martin Handford. Little. Challenged at the Public Libraries of Saginaw, Mich. (1989), Removed from the Springs Public School library in East Hampton, N.Y. (1993) because there is a tiny drawing of a woman lying on the beach wearing a bikini bottom but no top."

http://title.forbiddenlibrary.com/
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It is asinine. I've read both "The Giver" and "Catcher In The Rye" and they were both fantastic books. The public education system just wants to be able to tell you how to think and desensitize everybody, or at least whoever is trying to ban these books does. Honestly, the word "damn" isn't offensive, and I don't even remember any swears being in "The Giver"


I almost feel like it's because both books promote free thinking.
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#12
Yeah, I read that a while ago. I'm not sure about it right now though. I don't believe in censorship, but then again, if we have no censorship, people could give away nuclear secrets or crap like that in books or whatever. So I don't believe in full censorship or none at all, just as I do with how much power the government has. However, if you let them censor something, they're bound to get stupid about it. Just like the government. Can't live with it, can't live without it, but even if you only give them a little power, they're always going to get bigger and stupider, no matter what. It's gay.

EDIT: I'm surprised stuff like 1984, Brave New World, and Gattaca aren't banned, rather than those other books.
#13
Those are just books that are "Commonly Challenged." A lot of them have to do with them being required readings in schools. From what I remember, if a book was that objectionable, you were allowed to not participate in that. For example we were doing an old religion study, ya know, studying world religions, in a world history class. A form was sent out that if the parents didn't want the child to participate that they would be assigned something else. Made sense to me. I mean if a book, like Adventures of Huckleberry Finn, which use the word ****** quite a bit in a negative light really got to someone that badly, I would understand if they asked to study something else. I mean if your child was asked to read pornography in school I'm sure that it would be understood if a parent objected to *their* child reading it. A lot of times it has to do with personal and religious beliefs and a parents child. That sorta thing I can understand. Banning the ownership of a book however, is something that won't be done. I'll burn the people that want to make ownership of a book illegal.
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"Where's Waldo? Martin Handford. Little. Challenged at the Public Libraries of Saginaw, Mich. (1989), Removed from the Springs Public School library in East Hampton, N.Y. (1993) because there is a tiny drawing of a woman lying on the beach wearing a bikini bottom but no top."

http://title.forbiddenlibrary.com/


Hmm... Does that mean that if Boobs = Bad, the authorities there are all gay?

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#15
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I almost feel like it's because both books promote free thinking.

You're probably right. If we can think freely, how will we ever catch on to their bullshit?

I'm still in high school, so I guess this sort of stuff just pisses me off.
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#17
"Won't somebody PLEASE think of the Children!!!"

Banning 1984 by George Orwell and Brave New World by Aldous Huxley is quite the ultimate irony.
#18
well, schools do have the right to ban books.

they basically have the right to suspend certain parts of the constitution within their school.

i think its stupid to keep kids from certain books because a small group of people is opposed to them.
#19
I can see "the anarchists cookbook", but there is nothing wrong with any of those other books whatsoever.
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The Great Gatsby?

That's required reading in grade 12 english up here. Jeez.
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I can see "the anarchists cookbook", but there is nothing wrong with any of those other books whatsoever.

Same.
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#23
Its entirely unnecessary except for maybe keeping books like Choke out of elementary school libraries, things like that.
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#24
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Any censorship is ridiculous. the government should never EVER be allowed to censor anything, bottom line. it should be, and ultimately is a persons choice to decide what they or their children can and cannot read or watch.

I hate the US government a lot of times. a lot


I'm in almost total agreement with this person, as long as those children are free to choose what they want to read and watch after a certain age.
#25
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Any censorship is ridiculous. the government should never EVER be allowed to censor anything, bottom line. it should be, and ultimately is a persons choice to decide what they or their children can and cannot read or watch.

I hate the US government a lot of times. a lot

The government, according to laws passed by due process, has the right to censor fighting words, libel, slander, instructions for anarchy, and profanity towards children. Other than that, it's complete crap.
#26
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The Great Gatsby?

That's required reading in grade 12 english up here. Jeez.

I think they should have banned that trash die to it's utter pretentiousness.
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They wanted to ban a womans biography [ the book was named I know why the caged bird sings or something, I dont remember but its on Digg ] because it told about her being raped as a young child, its her damn biography, she's not just going to leave something like that out or sugar coat it, it would have been tramatic and great to get off her chest! Stupid people, stupid stupid.
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#28
Fahrenheit 451
by Ray Bradbury

This book is about censorship and those who ban books for fear of creating too much individualism and independent thought. In late 1998, this book was removed from the required reading list of the West Marion High School in Foxworth, Mississippi. A parent complained of the use of the words "God damn" in the book. Subsequently, the superintendent instructed the the teacher to remove the book from the required reading list.
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The Great Gatsby?

That's required reading in grade 12 english up here. Jeez.

grade 11 here HAH
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#30
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Fahrenheit 451
by Ray Bradbury

This book is about censorship and those who ban books for fear of creating too much individualism and independent thought. In late 1998, this book was removed from the required reading list of the West Marion High School in Foxworth, Mississippi. A parent complained of the use of the words "God damn" in the book. Subsequently, the superintendent instructed the the teacher to remove the book from the required reading list.


I saw that as well.

It's ridiculous.
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Yeah, I read that a while ago. I'm not sure about it right now though. I don't believe in censorship, but then again, if we have no censorship, people could give away nuclear secrets or crap like that in books or whatever. So I don't believe in full censorship or none at all, just as I do with how much power the government has. However, if you let them censor something, they're bound to get stupid about it. Just like the government. Can't live with it, can't live without it, but even if you only give them a little power, they're always going to get bigger and stupider, no matter what. It's gay.

EDIT: I'm surprised stuff like 1984, Brave New World, and Gattaca aren't banned, rather than those other books.
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The government, according to laws passed by due process, has the right to censor fighting words, libel, slander, instructions for anarchy, and profanity towards children. Other than that, it's complete crap.


Just because it's a law doesn't make it right. The Jim Crow laws were laws, after all. Also, it's not a right because a court said it was. Also, those are extremely broad qualifications for censoring anything. You could possibly literally ban almost every book ever written on that context.
#33
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Just because it's a law doesn't make it right. The Jim Crow laws were laws, after all. Also, it's not a right because a court said it was. Also, those are extremely broad qualifications for censoring anything. You could possibly literally ban almost every book ever written on that context.

Those are just broad terms. The rulings go into more detail.
#34
I thought it was hilarious that Captain Underpants was on there, where the hell was I when they were teaching that in school? I had to read it outside of the classroom (Still have two of those books. And I have a Commander Toad one too).

WOW, James and the Giant Peach, fuck that. This list is ridiculous, so much great literature on there: Brave New World, The Giver, For Whom The Bell Tolls, Lord of the Flies, Of Mice and Men, Flowers For Algernon, Their Eyes Were Watching God (I don't know why the hell anyone would challenge this), To Kill A Mockingbird. This is ridiculous.
#35
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I almost feel like it's because both books promote free thinking.

That' exactly the case.

I can imagine Palin supporting the banning of all those books.

The Catcher in The Rye is the only thing that got me through my damned adolescence.
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That' exactly the case.

I can imagine Palin supporting the banning of all those books.

The Catcher in The Rye is the only thing that got me through my damned adolescence.

My teacher ruined that book for me. He had to add some goddamned metaphorical meaning to everything in that book.
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My teacher ruined that book for me. He had to add some goddamned metaphorical meaning to everything in that book.

So did mine. It just made me appreciate the book more

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So did mine. It just made me appreciate the book more

The first song I ever wrote was influenced by that book funnily enough.

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I was perfectly happy accepting everything at face value, okay. It was just total overkill, even his hat was some lousy arsed motif I was supposed to pick up on. Who does that? It's just a damn hat!

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