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#81
I just added some stuff to my profile, info, gear i will add the rest sooner rather than later, got the ohms figured out, sounds bad ass

All I need now is to add some custom art to the front of the cabs haha
Guitars - Original 1981 Ibanez Artist Sunburst
Amplifiers - 100w All Tube Peavy Valve King 212 Combo
Tubes - 4 Groove Tube 6l6, 3 Groove Tube 12AX7
Cabinets - B52 Slant 400W 4X12"
#82
hmm... i've got one of those 1/4" jacks just laying around... so i just plug it in?

It's a 1/4" male to a 1/8" female... that's good, right?

Just wondering, since i've never heard of this before, and it looks TERRIBLY easy.
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#83
BTW how are those Wharehouse speakers mentioned in the 1st page as a cheaer alternative to the vintage 30s? i wana swap for the 30s but the wharehouse ones are way cheaper, are they really as good? or better as the site claims?
Guitars - Original 1981 Ibanez Artist Sunburst
Amplifiers - 100w All Tube Peavy Valve King 212 Combo
Tubes - 4 Groove Tube 6l6, 3 Groove Tube 12AX7
Cabinets - B52 Slant 400W 4X12"
#84
they're actually better. B/c the VK is known for having too much mid, and these are just like the Vintage 30s(arguably better), but they reduce the mid-spike.

So actually, it's a win-win.

I've got one in... and i LOVE it.

It gets rid of the mudiness of the stock speaker great!
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#85
Nice! well i mean they are 65 each one celestion 30 is 120 so i figure if they are as good or better as u and the site say, might as well get the 2 for the price of the 1.

Anyone else agree? disagree?
Guitars - Original 1981 Ibanez Artist Sunburst
Amplifiers - 100w All Tube Peavy Valve King 212 Combo
Tubes - 4 Groove Tube 6l6, 3 Groove Tube 12AX7
Cabinets - B52 Slant 400W 4X12"
#86
I tried that dummy plug. Works great. seems like it adds some sizzle and clarity. I started playing "art of shredding" by Pantera cause the tone sounded like Dime.
#87
There not 120 are they? I thought they ere like 70-80? But anyways the Veteran 30 is killer dude it sounds amazing.

EDIT: Disregard this i thought we were talking about watts not price lol.

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Coming soon: Egnater Tweaker


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#88
Quote by bartdevil_metal
I seem to remember there being a diode replacement that sorted out the gain boost clip, I can't remember what user did it though.



Yeah I think it was me. Easy mod. Just short r100 and it kicks up the voltage a little removing the crossover distortion from the boost. I remember that when I used to back off on the guitar volume and let a chord sustain there used to be a nasty sizzle that sounded like a broken speaker. Problem solved!
#89
I also had a bias adjustment put in. I heated it up only 5 ma and it made a big difference.
#90
Quote by TheBax
hmm... i've got one of those 1/4" jacks just laying around... so i just plug it in?

It's a 1/4" male to a 1/8" female... that's good, right?

Just wondering, since i've never heard of this before, and it looks TERRIBLY easy.


I"m assuming by now you've tried it. Yeah, just that easy. It's actually 1/8 to 1/4 but we know what you mean.

And yes I'm planning on a WGS V30 too. Prices of 120 vs 70 seems right to me. There are a few others to who have this one. I'm not sure all the old posters have seen the new thread.


StratoJim - I'd like to learn more about how you did that 'cause not that technical or amp savy. I have a feeling I would be taking it in to someone for that. Does it make that much of a difference with jacks/boost/OD/etc?
#91
The r100 mod is easy with minimal soldering experience. Just get a resistor (any will do) and use the solder lead to go from lead to lead on resistor 100 (which is labeled) thereby bridging the resistor.

I tried to do the bias mod myself and got shocked pretty bad (I've been doing this a while so I'm used to it) and I fried two grid resistors and a diod, I took it in to the professional to have the bias mod done. basically it involves removing resistor 205 (which is a set level for bias voltage) and installing a small potentiometer with a backup resistor should the Pot go bad.

the r100 mod made the gain boost feature usable and great for a classic rock tone with the gain less than noon

the bias mod really warmed up the amp and took out a lot of the grittyness and increased responsiveness. It was very noticable in the clean channel but affected the whole tone.
#93
ps. I would recommend a professional do the bias mod and set it up unless you have an O scope to dial out the crossover distortion.

I am using sovtek 5881wxt tubes which are pretty stout tubes (Russian miltary grade 6l6 used in old MIG fighters) They are clean and allow max headroom.
#95
I was thinking about switching the stock 112 speaker in my valveking for one of the new EV zakk wylde speakers but cant find any reviews. has anyone tried one? Are they worth it? If not, what would be a good speaker to buy for the hard rock sound?
#97
I need help deciding on something....

I've been thinking of getting a 5150 on ebay soon, because they usually run about 600-700$... But I saw that a new VK100 head is $530. I don't really have a way to try them and all I can go by is sound clips. Does the VK sound anywhere near as good as a 5150? I really want my first tube amp to be an enjoyable one. I already have a cab (it's a crappy Crate, but it'll have to do)
#99
I play a lot of different things, but I usually just keep it heavy. I like to play a lot of Petrucci type stuff, some Metallica, Killswitch Engage. So my initial thought was just to get a 5150, the cheapest really good tube amp that can cover a lot of that, but so many people like the valveking, I thought I'd ask since it can apparently get into the metal territory, especially when boosted.
#100
yes maybe.

take someone else advice 'cause i'm not real up on the 5150. Personally, if you play mostly metal, have a cab already, and they are equal cost I would probably go with the 5150.

The VK can do some/most of that but can also do cleans and blues which the 5150 struggles with. The VK may also excel here at lower volumes too but if you are gigging and doing mostly metal then I think most would agree on what I said. Like I said, ask in the main forum and wait for IbanezPsycho and others to chime in because he has more experience than I.

my opinion
#101


Just to get the thread started again, the reverb tank sucks, discuss:
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It's not the greatest but there are ways around it. Also, here is a pic of my pan. It is a Ruby rebrand. I didn't bother to put it back in.

Someone in the old thread spoke of tightening the reverb tank all the way down. I guess this assumes taking off the rubber feet and screwing her down tight?

ALSO - Toilethero - I can take over the clipz part if you like. You have a good start. See post #3
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#102
Quote by Ignite
I play a lot of different things, but I usually just keep it heavy. I like to play a lot of Petrucci type stuff, some Metallica, Killswitch Engage. So my initial thought was just to get a 5150, the cheapest really good tube amp that can cover a lot of that, but so many people like the valveking, I thought I'd ask since it can apparently get into the metal territory, especially when boosted.


Get the 5150, the only reason I picked up my VK is because I was GAS'in and I got a really good deal on her. The VK isnt a metal beast and will take way to many mods to even get her there and still a 5150 will crush her. The VK is a good amp for blues, classic rock, light metal and worth it if you already own pedals a cab and can get her dirt cheap.

Some other options are a Peavey XXX, Ultra or JSX... All in the same class and are quite good for pulling off the genres you mentioned.
#103
Quote by 311ZOSOVHJH
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I CAN TAKE ON THE CLIPZ HERE.....if you like?

Stock 112
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CI117wHoKQ

Drop Slipknot ....212
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNoXmVQhcDQ&NR=1

This kid is pretty good! ...100head version pantera
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VywlVf3lE1s&feature=related


ok...not leaving anybody out. TH listed stuff I can put in here. Also, SG622 and Sadistic_Sponge can go in here. Other too obviously but I'm tired!


BTW, It makes sense to spread stuff out. Maybe you could get TOILETHERO to give you that bit of the OP. Have you anything to trade?
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#105
I have a Valveking 112, and I can honestly say that I don't like it that much. I thought it would have a heavier sound when I bought it, I'm into the Killswitch Engage sound, really metalish sound ^^ Maybe the amp sounds weak because I have standard pickups on my Ibanez S2170 Prestige.. Maybe the amp works better with EMG's? I lack any type of pedals just so you know ^^
"You just have to put your finger like this!!! It's freakin easy!"
#107
Quote by TOILETHERO


Just to get the thread started again, the reverb tank sucks, discuss:
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It's not the greatest but there are ways around it. Also, here is a pic of my pan. It is a Ruby rebrand. I didn't bother to put it back in.

Someone in the old thread spoke of tightening the reverb tank all the way down. I guess this assumes taking off the rubber feet and screwing her down tight?

ALSO - Toilethero - I can take over the clipz part if you like. You have a good start. See post #3

yeah man sure ill stick with the EQ settings, just copy what i have under the clips section. Anyone that has settings for the VK itself and u want to share let me know. If you have settings for the VK with an EQ pedal please share(*looks at IbanezPsycho* lol ) doesn't matter if you have the 7-band or 10 band pedal....
Gear:
Ibanez Artcore AM73
Carlo-Robelli Acoustic (first guitar)
Peavey VaveKing 212
BOSS GE-7
BOSS Super Chorus CH-1
#108
This new thread is pretty sweet - Thanks for finally getting one up Bartdevil

311 - I have a video of youtube with me playing "seek and destroy" with the upgraded speaker and the free mods.

linkage

I don't care if you don't put it up or not, but I thought I'd just throw it out there.

Getting new strings, fuzz pedal, and something else I cannot remember off hand... so expect some new recordings soon.
#109
well the time came to order new tubes for my valveking 112, i got tired of hearing the volume fluctuate while im playing this is what i ordered and i should get it next week.
two jj tesla 6L6GC and for the preamp i got jj tesla ECC83s..
peavey vk112 with celestion v30 speaker
ESP/LTD kh-602 with 18v mod
ibanez rg470 with dimarzio evolution pickups
vox satchurator
ibanez tubescreamer ts-808 reissue
ehx the clone theory
boss dd7
boss ge7
isp decimator
korg pitch black tuner
#110
Quote by 311ZOSOVHJH
linky?


Yes! Bad monkey for that extra crunch and tightening things up. turbo rat after the bad monkey for violin like sustain.

The great thing is that the turbo rat is really transparent so it just adds to the bad monkey tone. pushes the amp to meltdown.

I would say it's a marshall in two boxes but its more like a Laney. (old school: AOR pro tube series)
#111
Quote by fearo
1) Dummy jack in output 1 / patch cable in effects loop
2) Speaker swap
3) OD pedal
What does this do? I've never heard of this before?


And another question? What exactly makes this mod, and the Dummy Jack mod, make the VK sound better? Just curious...
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#112
If you don't already have a pedal in your effects loop we've found that by putting a 3ft jumper cable (for example) from Send to Return it gives it a bit of a clean boost for lack of a better description. Took some muddiness out when I tried it. I keep forget who exactly told us about it so I'll go look in the old thread later.

IMO - that is nothing compared to the dummy jack insert trick. #1 I'm not an amp tech or EE so my descriptions are rather rudamentory. I believe this is not unique to the Valveking either. Your second guitar insert is run for a lower gain sound and first guitar insert is run for a higher gain sound. I think I've found at least and others too that by having the guitar in Insert 2 and the dummy jack in Insert 1 it provides better tone. Less mud. More clarity. Nicer gain. Hard to describe. Not sure why exactly, all I can think of is the amp thinks your guitar is in Insert 1 and both jacks are full. It works like a light switch metal on metal.

Maybe one of our smarter VK'rs can explain it.

vGreat answer StratoJim. That makes sense.
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#113
The manual says when there are two jacks in the inputs they are supposedly both turned into high gain inputs.

my guess is that when the plug is in #2 input with a dummy plug the signal still partly picks up some of the traits of the second input which would be buffered. So it is still high gain but not like going through input #1 where there is no buffer. just a guess.
#114
Anybody tried putting a piece of 1"x4" in the back of the amp to give it a little more thump?
#115
i asked this question i the old thread but i think it might have gotten overlooked. Is there any kind of spray or something that i can put on the amp so it won't attract dust? I live on a dirt road(not on the actual road lol) and dust gets easily in my house, right now i just have a blanket covering it. So is there anything i can do?

EDIT: 311ZOSOVHJH have you been able to find saliva settings? I've looked all over the internet trying to find interviews and the gear they use and i haven't had any luck.
Gear:
Ibanez Artcore AM73
Carlo-Robelli Acoustic (first guitar)
Peavey VaveKing 212
BOSS GE-7
BOSS Super Chorus CH-1
Last edited by TOILETHERO at Oct 4, 2008,
#116
have not tried a jack in the back - i'll have to try later....going to cut grass.

^TH - you can probably use EndDust or the like spray. It is really more for computers and stereos to to keep house dust from elctro-magnetically attracting to things. Not so sure on dirt from a road.

And no, I have not found any Saliva settings but have not looked that hard either. You have obviously so I'll take your lead.

See you guys later.
#117
So just how good is the 112 for metal? Is it too loud for bedroom practice? What pedal would sound great with it?
#118
112 can do metal, after a few simple mods.
I use mine for bedroom practice... it's got a volume knob on it. I end up with mine around 0.3 when parents are home.

What KIND of pedal? For an overdrive, the Bad Monkey is a good cheap pedal... complements the distortion great.
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#119
Quote by TheBax
112 can do metal, after a few simple mods.
I use mine for bedroom practice... it's got a volume knob on it. I end up with mine around 0.3 when parents are home.

What KIND of pedal? For an overdrive, the Bad Monkey is a good cheap pedal... complements the distortion great.


I can get a good modern metal tone with mine w the bad monkey. I play it around 1.5 volume wise.

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#120
I havent been on this site in a while and it is cool to see what this thread has become. Too bad my Valveking **** the bed a few months ago and I just found out it will cost me more to fix it than what I paid for it. I will be searching for a new amp but low funds have prevented me from playing electric guitar for months now. I wish all these little mods were available to me when the thing was working.
My Gear:

Fender Strat w/Duncans
Hand Built(by me) guitar w/Duncans
Ibanez RG321MH
Bugera V22
Peavey Vyper 30 Watt
Xotic BB Preamp
MXR Carbon Copy Delay
Digitech Hardwire Chromatic Tuner
Fender T-Bucket Acoustic
Digitech Bad Monkey