#3
it's a toy compared to even slightly more expensive epi studios, and agiles.


http://www.rondomusic.com/electricguitar-ss6.html

http://www.zzounds.com/item--EPIENL1
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#5
see, that's fine, i'm talking about a few dollars more for better tuners, better pickups, better fretwork, and better neck joint.

it'll make you better if your guitar doesnt buzz as much and it stays in tune better.


i'm still suggesting starter guitars here. just Better starters.
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so what kin of epiphone do you suggest?

The standards and Studios are alright.
how much are you looking to spend?
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#9
well i linked you to a studio. the faded cherry is just over $300.


and on the rondo site, i "suggest" over the 2000 series. but from the specs, it's easy to see that even the 2000 series is better than an lp-100.


if you dont want an lp, there are more choices in the $200-300 range. just not sure how much you can spend.
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a les paul studio would do you fine, or a g-400. If your tight on money check your local craigslist or local music stores for used gear.

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#11
i have one of these and mine plays and sounds just fine. no buzz, stays in tune for the length of all my gigs (about 7 songs). i think its good
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#12
^i'm not trying to disrespect your guitar. but it's important to keep moving up in your gear.

if you're already an intermediate player, it's important to get better gear than you already have.

the lp-100 is an absolute starter guitar.
4 or so years ago there used to be a huge price difference between the lp-100 and the studio, then they halfed the studio's price (especially the plain and goth versions)

this made the lp-100 obsolete, imo.

there's no reason to get a starter bolt on necked lp when a step up is about $50 difference.
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#15
i've got a sg..... not too expensive...isn't a studio but it dosn't sound too bad
#16
yeah much better than an lp-100. if you get a good one, can be intermediate level.

i guess it's not possible for you to try the one you intend on buying?

that would be a plus. in this price range, there are some dogs in every brand.
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by the way, my studio...



i've got a bunch of guitars, this guitar plays very nice for the money.
not to shabby for about $300.


if you're into an lp. also, please look at that rondo guitars link i put up in the second or so post. many more lp guitars in this price range.
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well where i live the only place i could buy guitars are sam ash and guitar center.

i wouldnt buy a guitar without trying out first
#19
^ok then, if you can try it first, call ahead and see if they have any epi's.

if they have an lp-100 or a special (they always have these), and any studios, you'll see the difference just by holding them.
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you'll feel a weight difference, the switch, the tuners, check intonation, acoustic fret buzz, the neck joint, and i'm pretty sure the pickups are upgraded. that part is tough to say because epi is so covert with their specs.

here's a general guide from our stickies...


How to try out guitars

Before you select a guitar, there are a few things you need to think over.
-The style of music you play.
-A budget you can live with.
-How long you've been playing. If you've ever owned a guitar before.
We all gravitate towards the guitar that looks the Hawtest, but looks and color, shouldn't be your first concern.
Wood type, bridge type, pickup configuration, guitar weight, brand reputation, and UG member recommendations should all come into play.
You need to have in mind, a few guitars that suit you best, before you even walk into the store.

Walking into The Store:
Wait, you've already blown it! Are you sure you're in the right place? Most of us only have a couple of options.
Ideally you live in an area with large chains, and local shops. Keep in mind that large chains pay their workers with commission. A money driven worker will not be working towards your best interest, no matter how nice he seems. Local shops might be able to offer you a better deal, but they don't carry as large a selection.
It's good to get prices online, some stores will even match competitor's prices, but whenever possible, physically play as many guitars as possible. Keep in mind that in most cases, the recommended list price for a guitar, is about twice its actual selling price.
In addition, when you are trying to get more guitar for the money, It might be worth your time to look into local pawn shops, classified Ads or to check out Ebay. There are some good deals out there, you just need to know where to look.

Take a Friend:

Guitar stores can be overwhelming. When possible, bring a guitar playing friend with you, preferably someone with purchasing experience. You want him to be objective and to run interference for you, if you run into any pushy sales associates.
Start off by finding the models and styles in your price range. If you aren't happy with the choices, at least you'll create a basis for comparison.
If you have a favorite type of pick, make sure you have one in your pocket. You want to feel as comfortable as possible.
There's no reason to call over a sales associate just yet, because you should start off by playing your choices acoustically.

Testing a Guitar:

Once you're certain about the model, you're ready to test some guitars. Don't be afraid to ask for one off the wall. When they don't want one played, they will usually tag it, but it's a good idea to leave the top shelf guitars alone unless they are in your price range. Let the sales staff know you're serious and they will be more willing to work with you on a good deal.
To make things simple, I've made a checklist.
Before playing...
-Sit down in a quiet area and feel the guitars weight. Make sure it's balanced, and suited to your size.
-Move the knobs and switch. Make sure they are tight.
-Go to the input jack, see if it wiggles.
-Lift the guitar to your face. Check the headstock and neck joint for small cracks or chips.
-See if the neck looks straight.
-Shake the guitar. Listen for loose parts.
-Look at the fretboard. Make sure there are no wood imperfections, raised or crooked frets. Make sure the frets don't poke through the side of the board.
Before plugging in....
-Strum and fret each string. You're listening for fret buzz.
Keep in mind, guitars aren't always set up prior to placement on the selling floor.
Sometimes they aren't even tuned. Action and fret buzz are USUALLY adjustable, but the guitar shouldn't buzz and rattle everywhere.
-Check the guitar's harmonics. Compare tones at the 12th. See if the guitar is intonated.
-Make sure the board isn't too wide for you. See if you can reach the higher frets.
-Make sure the bridge saddles are level, with no sharp points.
-Make sure the tuners don't feel loose.
Amp it up...
-Ok, find the pain in the ass sales guy. You'll need a guitar cable, and an amp,
JUST LIKE THE ONE YOU HAVE AT HOME!!!!
Don't Let him plug you into a $1,000 amp. You're testing the guitar not the amp.
-If possible, have a riff ready. If you're tagged as a complete noob, you'll get less respect.
-Use the switch. Select the neck pickup. Select the bridge. Listen for crackling noises.
Roll the knobs and listen for noise. Touch and lift your hand off the bridge, listen for buzzing that stops when you ground it. If you're into Metal, and are looking at a humbucker guitar, expect to hear less noise than if you were testing a single-coil guitar.
-Check the pickups with the amp on clean and with gain.
Questions to Ask...
-Hopefully you already know the wood type of your choice guitar. You need to make sure the salesman knows that you've done your homework.
"Do you have any other Mahogany guitars in this price range, you could recommend?"
-Let the salesman know that you've noticed any imperfections.
"I like this ibanez, but I'm picking up fretbuzz through the amp. Do your guitars come
setup?"
-Spend a while playing the guitar. Look upset even if you like the guitar.
"What can I get this guitar for?" "Does this guitar come with a case?"
You want to walk out of there, with as many free extras as possible. Especially if you've found anything wrong with the guitar. Any minor flaw, might work as a bargaining chip.
- "What's your return policy?"
Final thoughts...
IF YOU LIKE THE GUITAR ON THE SALES FLOOR, TAKE THAT GUITAR, NOT ONE FROM THE STOCKROOM. Unless it's a floor model, you should still get a box for it. You just don't want to take the time to find the perfect guitar, only to end up with a lemon in the end.
Also keep in mind, stores make a lot of money off of purchase insurance. In almost every case, it's not worth it to buy protection on a guitar. Except for the neck, every part is easily replaced. In addition, any flaws would be apparent within the usual 30 day return time frame.

Good Luck, Jenny
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#22
im using a cheap amp

but i want to get the line 6 spider III amp


also
lets say i like the guitar and everything
you say that i should get the guitar in display not the one in the stockroom

why is that?
#23
I'm buying a new electric as well

I went in today, and tried out a sg400 and kind of liked it, but read a review saying it definitely wasn't the best guitar out there for 300 bucks.

I've always wanted a LP, and yes I know How original but right now I have a squire strat, and am looking for something a bit better, so pretty much the same position as TS, would this guitar http://www.electric-guitars-guide.com/epiphone-les-paul-standard-review.html be worth checking out?
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#24
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im using a cheap amp

but i want to get the line 6 spider III amp


also
lets say i like the guitar and everything
you say that i should get the guitar in display not the one in the stockroom

why is that?



1. spiders arent very good imo. if you want a solid state modelling amp check out roland cubes.
if you need more amp help, make a thread before you buy.

2. you dont want to find the perfect guitar on the selling floor. go thru everything on the checklist with them, just to buy a guitar in a box from the back that you havent tried. that guitar in a box might be filled with flaws.
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#25
line 6 spider 3 suck. when i frst started, i thought it pretty good but after 1 year of playing, i realize it crap. Get micro cube, it great for rock and metal but if u not into that stuff, save up for Vox Valvetronix AD15VT
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