#1
Okay, well i join joined a new band playing rhythm guitar, and temporary lead.

The band is modern metal, so i need something really heavy.

Our Currect lead guitarist has the Marshall MG100DFX 100w amp.

I need something that can match up to it, but hes hes obviously not playing it full volume in a pratice space.

My budget cuts it down to buying it used.

My choices are

Marshall MG50DFX for $180 used.

Delivers a dynamic yet toneful punch
50W
12" speaker
2 channels (footswitchable)
Digital effects including reverb, delay, chorus, and flange
FDD (Frequency Dependent Dampening)
CD ins, plus emulated line out, and emulated headphone jacks
Marshall MG50DFX Combo Amp Specifications:
20-1/2"W x 19-3/4"H x 11"D
36 lbs.

Marshall Valvestate 100 for $222 used.

100 Watt Valvestate power stage driving 1x12'' speaker [VS100R] or 2x12'' speakers [VS102R].
ECC83 [12AX7] Pre-amp valve active on all 3 channels.
3 independent footswitchable channels, 'Clean', 'Overdrive 1' and 'Overdrive 2'.
Clean channel with Treble, Middle and Bass controls, plus Tone Shift switch for extra tonal options.
Overdrive 1 channel with its own Gain and Volume plus shared EQ with Overdrive 2.
Overdrive 2 channel with its own Gain, Volume and sweeping Contour control.
Power Dimension switch to give the effect of the greater saturation of a valve power stage of lower wattage being driven hard.
Built-in spring Reverb with separate level controls for the Clean and Overdrive 1/2.
Effects Loop with front panel Mix control.
Headphone jack [which mutes the internal speaker].
Line Out jack with Speaker Emulation for connection to external equipment.
Extension speaker jacks

Please help

thank you

~Shpunt
#2
not the MG.....never the MG.
buy the valvestate instead.
MG's give you horrible everything.
just ask around, the valvestate is so much better than the MG.
#3
neither are good amps, I'd get a crate v-series and a digitech bad-monkey instead

or a valveking

or if you need to go cheap, get a roland cube amp, especially for metal
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#4
valvestate

by far
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#6
Quote by Im King Jackson
Dont even think of getting the MG, it sucks bad. Try a Crate Flexwave the 65watt one.

/epic fail
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#7
valvestates are pretty good, imo (most people hate them). never buy an MG though, at full volume it will give you rabies. check out roland cubes. their good high-gain modelling amps and there are some in ur price range
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#8
Quote by danyellenik
neither are good amps, I'd get a crate v-series and a digitech bad-monkey instead
This, or whatever kind of distortion pedal you like.

Valvestates sound like fizzy ass on the distortion channel. A Crate V50-112 will probably be louder than the 100w MG, and sound ridiculously better.
#9
Get the valvestate, I had a chance to buy a 100 watt Marshall Valvestate on the cheap once and I passed it up for a 30 watt MG30DFX for the same price, biggest mistake I made lol.
#10
Quote by danyellenik
neither are good amps, I'd get a crate v-series and a digitech bad-monkey instead

or a valveking

or if you need to go cheap, get a roland cube amp, especially for metal


I'm pretty sure the crate v-50 is cheaper than any other amp you posted + it's really loud.

dunno how it'll pull off metal though..
#11
Quote by Swap-Meet
I'm pretty sure the crate v-50 is cheaper than any other amp you posted + it's really loud.

dunno how it'll pull off metal though..

it actually pulls it off pretty good with an OD, theres a clip on youtube somewhere of it, and that's youtube's horrible quality
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#12
would the 100w valvestate pull of metal at a volume louder than the drummer?

and is it louder than the mg100?

is it better than the mg100?
#13
Quote by Shpunt
would the 100w valvestate pull of metal at a volume louder than the drummer?

and is it louder than the mg100?

is it better than the mg100?


i know on here the MG's get a lot of hate....but I know 2 guys that have the 100 wat halfstack, and they've both had it for a couple of years and they both love it. (both have been playing guitar for almost 10 years)

From what I've seen on youtube they don't sound too bad, but i prefer my v-50 over them forsure. I'm pretty sure the MG series is more overpriced than anything (i am not bashing, or protecting the MG).

either way...would you rather spend 180$ on a 100 wat USED amp or 199$ on a 50 wat all tube (pretty much as loud as a 100 wat solid state) amp brand new? Apparently they can pull off metal as someone on here said.

the crate is more than loud enough to get heard over a drummer + i think it's less heavy than a 100 wat SS
#14
Quote by Shpunt
would the 100w valvestate pull of metal at a volume louder than the drummer?

and is it louder than the mg100?

is it better than the mg100?

you should really look into the crate v-series like me, and a few others have recommended. It is much better, don't just buy an amp for the "marshall" name
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