#1
Very long story short, I'm dorming with a good friend of mine from high school. He used to be great at guitar, drawing, and photography, a very artistic and creative guy, and that's what I always admired about him. But now, he doesn't even have a social life in school, because in all his free time he sits around playing warhammer online. He's actually gettings worse at guitar and drawing, literally, because he rarely does it (only when he's waiting for the "que" of his game to end, which is maybe 5-10 minutes here or there). How can someone so talented and creative, or anyone for that matter, spend so much time on essentially living in a fantasy world. Now I'm entirely fine with video games in moderation, I personally don't play at all but the extent that most people play them seems ridiculous.

Also it seems like there's no way I could confront my roommate about this, as he'd probably just get mad. I once subtly asked him about how he can enjoy playing video games ALL DAY and he said "It's just like how you can write music or play guitar all day or something...I just enjoy it" which seems like a ridiculous comparison. But do you guys have any ideas about how I could handle the situation?
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I once subtly asked him about how he can enjoy playing video games ALL DAY and he said "It's just like how you can write music or play guitar all day or something...I just enjoy it"


Well he actually kinda had a good point with that statement.
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Just give him a handjob.


wtf?

throw his pc, xbox, etc. out the window. then yell "ROCK N ROLLA INT NOISE POLLUTION!!!!" itll work
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#8
Well, it's his life. Is there anything that you two could do together to get him out of the house? My housemate divides up his time between working and playing MMOs, but we do make the effort to get him to socialise with us. Maybe play it from the angle that you want to spend time with him, rather than you're doing him a favour.
#9
Let him do as he pleases, if he wants to spend days playing Warhammer then thats his choice.
#10
Enlighten me; what's the difference between sitting playing a computer game all day, and sitting drawing or playing guitar all day?
#11
Say someting like, maybe you should take a break form the games

If he flips out its totally definate that he has an addiction and then you gotta get him to admit it


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#12
Get your guitar out and jam for a bit try and get him re-interested in it. Show him there are better things in life than videogames.
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Get your guitar out and jam for a bit try and get him re-interested in it. Show him there are better things in life than videogames.



Surely this is subject to personal opinion.

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If he is doing what he enjoys, then he doesn't have a problem. If he is completely fine with how his life is being lived, he doesn't have a problem.

If you don't like how he spends his days, perhaps it is you who has problems.
#14
Well you know, as long as he still makes good grades and doesn't forget to eat, I think you should let him do as he pleases.

However at the same time remind him that, even though socializing isn't required, it's nessecary if you want to get anywhere.
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Enlighten me; what's the difference between sitting playing a computer game all day, and sitting drawing or playing guitar all day?


This is you absorbed in videogame: ::type


this is what people watching you are doing: :stickpoke

Hence,
If youre playing guitar people wont poke you

But if its your choice, go ahead
#16
You didn't notice this when WoW was all the rage?

****ing Warhammer... It's essentially WoW again.

MMORPGs are EVILL!!! EVIL I TELLS YUH!
#17
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Enlighten me; what's the difference between sitting playing a computer game all day, and sitting drawing or playing guitar all day?



Sitting playing a computer game all day is essentially subjecting oneself to a fantasy world all day, gaining skills that have no significance or tangibility in the real world.

Maybe I'm just a ****ing hippie, but I'd much rather do something tangible...play guitar, read a book, just go outside and walk around with somebody talking or something, than put so much time into a fantasy. I don't consider that very intellectually or emotionally stimulating. Certainly, as I said, I see nothing wrong with someone playing video games, but it saddens me when I see it to such a ridiculous extent.
#18
If he likes it then good for him, maybe one day he'll make video games. In that case this not him playing video games, hes working towards his future career.
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Well you know, as long as he still makes good grades and doesn't forget to eat, I think you should let him do as he pleases.

However at the same time remind him that, even though socializing isn't required, it's nessecary if you want to get anywhere.


Whether you want to accept it or not, playing online games is a form of socialising.


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This is you absorbed in videogame:


this is what people watching you are doing:

Hence,
If youre playing guitar people wont poke you

But if its your choice, go ahead


This, however, only applies to people whose self-respect is determined by what other people think of them.


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Personally though, i think that too much of anything, whether it be guitar playing, video games, drawing, drugs, alcohol, masturbation, sleep, work, food, teleivision, are all bad as each other.

The key is balance.


Edit -

Sitting playing a computer game all day is essentially subjecting oneself to a fantasy world all day, gaining skills that have no significance or tangibility in the real world.

Maybe I'm just a ****ing hippie, but I'd much rather do something tangible...play guitar, read a book, just go outside and walk around with somebody talking or something, than put so much time into a fantasy. I don't consider that very intellectually or emotionally stimulating. Certainly, as I said, I see nothing wrong with someone playing video games, but it saddens me when I see it to such a ridiculous extent.


Perhaps it's just me, but everything is insignificant while we're looking at the big picture, since, no matter which route taken, you are going to die in the end. Perhaps thats a bit of a doom and gloom sort of point of view.. but its an important point of view nonetheless. And as said before, its still a matter of opinion.

Also, reading a book involves immersing yourself within the universe created by the book, much like playing an mmorpg :P ( a good one anywyas)
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#20
I love video games, but rarely get to play them due to my heavy workload during the week.

I just got a new laptop, but I refuse to buy WoW, because I know I'll get addicted.
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If he likes it then good for him, maybe one day he'll make video games. In that case this not him playing video games, hes working towards his future career.



Haha, nope, he's an art major, who never practices art.
#22
give it time, warhammer is a new game so of course he is going to play all day
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Whether you want to accept it or not, playing online games is a form of socialising.


This, however, only applies to people whose self-respect is determined by what other people think of them.


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Personally though, i think that too much of anything, whether it be guitar playing, video games, drawing, drugs, alcohol, masturbation, sleep, work, food, teleivision, are all bad as each other.

The key is balance.


Edit -


Perhaps it's just me, but everything is insignificant while we're looking at the big picture, since, no matter which route taken, you are going to die in the end. Perhaps thats a bit of a doom and gloom sort of point of view.. but its an important point of view nonetheless. And as said before, its still a matter of opinion.

Also, reading a book involves immersing yourself within the universe created by the book, much like playing an mmorpg :P ( a good one anywyas)



Who do you think would be more intelligent, one who reads every day for several hours from the time they're a child, or one who plays video games everyday for several hours? Seems like common sense to me. In a video game you're just put in a world and you're playing. With reading you're forced to analyze and use actual intellectual and creative thinking, even if you're reading a fantasy novel, sci-fi, nonfiction etc. With video games you don't have to analyze or imagine it because it's all just put in front of you.
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give it time, warhammer is a new game so of course he is going to play all day


This is an excellent point.

Im pretty sure that when you guys never put your guitar down when you first began playing.. I know i didn't

Edit -

Quote by fattyDQ
Who do you think would be more intelligent, one who reads every day for several hours from the time they're a child, or one who plays video games everyday for several hours? Seems like common sense to me. In a video game you're just put in a world and you're playing. With reading you're forced to analyze and use actual intellectual and creative thinking, even if you're reading a fantasy novel, sci-fi, nonfiction etc. With video games you don't have to analyze or imagine it because it's all just put in front of you.


Part of the draw of MMO's for alot of people is the immersion factor from reading into the back story.

Also, reading doesn't make you instantly intellegent, just like playing video games doesn't instantly make you a waste of life.

As mentioned before, though, The game is new, eventually he'll cut down on his time playing it, Hell, the more he plays it now the quicker he'll get bored.
Last edited by Lateralus13 at Oct 4, 2008,
#26
Quote by fattyDQ
Who do you think would be more intelligent, one who reads every day for several hours from the time they're a child, or one who plays video games everyday for several hours? Seems like common sense to me. In a video game you're just put in a world and you're playing. With reading you're forced to analyze and use actual intellectual and creative thinking, even if you're reading a fantasy novel, sci-fi, nonfiction etc. With video games you don't have to analyze or imagine it because it's all just put in front of you.

You've never played a strategy game before.

By the way, my brother reads a lot of novels, and he isn't doing very well in school.
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#27
So not one of you agrees that playing video games all day is kind of absurd. Not one of you? Wow...
#28
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So not one of you agrees that playing video games all day is kind of absurd. Not one of you? Wow...



Spending all day doing any one thing, is absurd.

Balance is key.
#29
That's exactly the point I had....but most everyone responding sees nothing wrong with it...
#30
Truuuust me, people get bored of MMO's, it may take weeks, months or even years, but they get bored. Also throw a birthday party, that way it would just be plain rude for him to not to come, and maybe he could get a taste of socialsing again. However at the end of the day it is his life, and its not like MMO's are complete isolationfests, he could have friends online.
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Spending all day doing any one thing, is absurd.

Balance is key.


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#34
Being a lazy loser>participating in self-fulfillment and intellectual activities


I don't mean to offend anyone here, as I'm sure most of you don't spend every waking hour on your video games, but this is honestly how I feel about people who spend all/most of their free time on such shit.
#35
I swear War only came out two weeks ago as well, so he physically cant have played that much. At least he isn't a WoW addict.
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Ill admit to having played a game for so long (instance in mind, Bioshock) that when I finally chucked it and went to bed, I kept seeing bits and pieces of the action continuing in my mind.
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#37
Warhammer Online hasn't been out for too long. He is so addicted that hes already sucking at guitar after not playing for maybe a week and a half or two? I have stopped playing for a month (it was HELL) before and when I picked up the guitar I still had the same ability I did before. By the way, I need to pick that game up. I have been really bored lately.
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Being a lazy loser>participating in self-fulfillment and intellectual activities


I don't mean to offend anyone here, as I'm sure most of you don't spend every waking hour on your video games, but this is honestly how I feel about people who spend all/most of their free time on such shit.



To be fair, have you ever played a good MMO?

They actually are insanely addicting, problably because you get to do stuff in a fantasy world that isnt possible in the real world.

Dont get me wrong, I agree with the guys whos name starts with an L (sorry dude, dont remember your name ) that everything should be balanced but you should atleast try to have an unbiased opinion. As for ideas to get him back to the real world start trying to introduce him to something new. Guitar is what got me off WoW and now I cant believe I used to play it.
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Don't worry about it. He'll get bored with it eventually.

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