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I mean, Che Guevara has become a product.

Do those who own Che Guevara posters, shirts, etc. even know who he is?

Discuss.

EDIT: To those who were offended by me posting a thread that has been done before, I am truly sorry.
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#2
no most dont
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#3
Probably, but no one cares.

They should have Fidel shirts.
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#6
He is a product, yet he gave is life for communism.

Everything is a product nowadays, though.
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#7
I've never owned one my self, but the irony is bypassed by the fact that the people who wear the shirts simply don't care. If they thought they were supporting revolutionary socialism throughout the world by wearing the shirt, that would be ironic but they're not. They intend to wear a fashionable t-shirt and they have.

/boring answer
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#8
Zomgz I was just talking to a friend of mine about this, and then I brought it up in another thread just yesterday.
People are idiots, and they do not know who he is, I asked someone who wore the generic shirt if they liked his ideas and they said they only heard a few songs...
#9
the irony that they support communism by using freedom of speech
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#10
I'm all for communism, but I'm not going to support revolution through violence.
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#11
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I've never owned one my self, but the irony is bypassed by the fact that the people who wear the shirts simply don't care. If they thought they were supporting revolutionary socialism throughout the world by wearing the shirt, that would be ironic but they're not. They intend to wear a fashionable t-shirt and they have.

/boring answer

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#12
It's not that ironic. Generally people wear it as a fashion symbol or they wear it because they support the ideal and want to show that support. They have to wear some form of clothing.

It's not like socialists or communists are against products.
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#15
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Zomgz I was just talking to a friend of mine about this, and then I brought it up in another thread just yesterday.
People are idiots, and they do not know who he is, I asked someone who wore the generic shirt if they liked his ideas and they said they only heard a few songs...

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#16
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I don't get it
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#17
Well in this day and age actually being revolutionary is too complex, might as well have people (more specifically other idiots) think you are. It really is the same as actually being politically minded when you think about it, I mean REALLY think about, till you're tired of thinking and your head hurts and anything makes sense.
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#18
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People are idiots, and they do not know who he is, I asked someone who wore the generic shirt if they liked his ideas and they said they only heard a few songs...



Please remove that person from the gene pool.
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#19
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im pretty sure someone made a thread about this not too long ago

I'm pretty sure that it had the same exact thread title, too.
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#20
Who's he?


Like Castro's brother or something? I honestly don't know who that is...
#21
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I'm all for communism, but I'm not going to support revolution through violence.

Psh, there's a reason Gandhi died a virgin.
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#22
I'd rather have his amazing quote on a shirt; “I know you are here to kill me. Shoot, coward, you are only going to kill a man.”
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#23
I've never seen anyone wear one of those shirts and I don't know who he is.
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#24
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Who's he?


Like Castro's brother or something? I honestly don't know who that is...

That would be Raúl Castro
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#25
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Who's he?


Like Castro's brother or something? I honestly don't know who that is...

He was from Argentina, he was a doctor who traveled around South America and met Fidel Castro in Mexico. While on his travels, he saw some of the bad things capitalism did to the poor, and he wanted to do something about it, so he joined Fidel's revolution and became a very high leader, practically Fidel's right hand man, despite not even being from Cuba. People look up to him because he died for his ideals, and didn't sell them out when living. He wouldn't even let his pregnant wife use his car because it was used for matters involving the people.
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#27
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Psh, there's a reason Gandhi died a virgin.


Because he was sexually abstinent?
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#28
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He was from Argentina, he was a doctor who traveled around South America and met Fidel Castro in Mexico. While on his travels, he saw some of the bad things capitalism did to the poor, and he wanted to do something about it, so he joined Fidel's revolution and became a very high leader, practically Fidel's right hand man, despite not even being from Cuba. People look up to him because he died for his ideals, and didn't sell them out when living. He wouldn't even let his pregnant wife use his car because it was used for matters involving the people.


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#29
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Because he was sexually abstinent?

Way to ruin the joke. Seriously, though.. I have no problem with violent revolution. I support Pancho Villa more then Caesar Chavez.
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#31
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Probably, but no one cares.

They should have Fidel shirts.


fidel products being sold like crazy in a capitalist country.

you might want to patent that.
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#32
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wut?

Fidel had quite a censorship problem. And all three of them had a... kill if there is any dissent.. problem.
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#33
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Way to ruin the joke. Seriously, though.. I have no problem with violent revolution. I support Pancho Villa more then Caesar Chavez.


If you have to hurt people to reach the goal of having a peaceful equal society, then you've failed before you've begun.
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#34
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If you have to hurt people to reach the goal of having a peaceful equal society, then you've failed before you've begun.

Yeah, but violent revolution tends to work more than non-violent. For example, in the sixties when there was a lot of talks of peaceful protest in order to get civil rights for blacks.. I've always felt that more than Martin Luther King, it was fear of violent revolution from people like the Black Panthers and the Nation of Islam that got things done. Martin was more for raising awareness amongst whites, and keeping blacks inspired. But I really believe it was fear of more riots that was what got Civil Rights enacted for blacks.

It'd be nice if people could be inspired to change their ways just because someone is protesting, but I think people are inspired to change if they think they'll lose their life for it. But then, I live in a country that was started because of a revolution, so I'm biased.
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#35
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Wiser words have rarely been spoken.

Che Guevara has become a symbol of "revolution" to those who don't bother to really open their eyes. Those who do realize he was nothing but a murderer.
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#36
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Wiser words have rarely been spoken.

Che Guevara has become a symbol of "revolution" to those who don't bother to really open their eyes. Those who do realize he was nothing but a murderer.

A murderer who was willing to die for his cause.
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#37
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Wiser words have rarely been spoken.

Che Guevara has become a symbol of "revolution" to those who don't bother to really open their eyes. Those who do realize he was nothing but a murderer.


Now you've gone too far the other way.

Nothing but a murderer? The man spent his entire adult life trying to improve the lives of the poor and oppressed everywhere he went. Yes, he had some dodgy views and almost certainly did some heinous things (don't really know what because every concerning the executions he is supposed to have ordered/performed is so distorted), but he was hardly alone in that and along with that he did a great deal of good.
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#38
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Now you've gone too far the other way.

Nothing but a murderer? The man spent his entire adult life trying to improve the lives of the poor and oppressed everywhere he went. Yes, he had some dodgy views and almost certainly did some heinous things (don't really know what because every concerning the executions he is supposed to have ordered/performed is so distorted), but he was hardly alone in that and along with that he did a great deal of good.

Not to mention, the people who were in power before the Castros were a pretty violent group of people themselves. If there had been non-violent protest, the peacefuls probably would have been killed anyway. Or at least imprisoned.
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#39
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A murderer who was willing to die for his cause.

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#40
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That really doesn't it make it any better, Cory...

It would be one thing if a man was willing to take lives, but not willing to give up his own for the same cause he took lives for. However, as I said before.. it's the reason people look up to Che. Because he died for his cause. I also disagree with Gunpowder that he was just a murderer.
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