#1
Everyone says the amp matters more, but we have the same amp: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVA0ODWaQBs . When I go for this tone, with a Squier Mini Strat, it just doesn't cut it. Is this the guitars fault? I plan on getting a new guitar, but I just wanted to make sure. Thanks.
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#3
Why are you using a Squier Mini Strat with a Deluxe Reverb!?

I know amp is more important than guitar, but you would really need at least a mexican strat to get the best out of that amp...

However, the guitar should still do it - just use a good clean setting with reverb - looks like he's using the middle pickup in that video too.
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#4
I'm sorry, you want your Squier Mini Strat to somehow match up to his MIM Strat with upgraded pups?

If you're using a good amp (which you are) the differences between guitars really do show through a lot more, I think you might be the first person I've ever recommended a guitar upgrade for.
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Why are you using a Squier Mini Strat with a Deluxe Reverb!?

I know amp is more important than guitar, but you would really need at least a mexican strat to get the best out of that amp...

However, the guitar should still do it - just use a good clean setting with reverb - looks like he's using the middle pickup in that video too.


I didn't have enough cash to upgrade both, and my previous amp was a bass amp.
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#6
You know, according to some very prominent guitarists, (and the musician Talk forum) a lot of tone is in the fingers.

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#7
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Everyone says the amp matters more

Not exactly. Tone mainly comes from the guitar (materials, mostly). the guitar is the source of the tone, but the amp is the messenger; an amp doesn't so much decide tone as alter that of the guitar (it can change it quite a bit, though).

In short, there's a reason certain guitars are associated with certain genres (i.e. Tele for country, Schecter for metal, etc.), so yes, your guitar might be the issue here.
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#8
My tone gets nowhere near as good, it can do sharper ones, though. I'm asking, it's not the amp that's holding me back, it's the guitar, right? If I was to buy the '57 or '62 Stratocaster I plan on buying, will it sound as good?


EDIT: I know fingers matter, but I can play the intro about as well as he can, and my tone isn't at all as good, it lacks a lot of bottom end, even when I turn up the bass.
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#9
Well, i'd certainly look to upgrading your guitar, not just to get that tone.

Good choice on the amp though - very nice sounding amps
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#10
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Well, i'd certainly look to upgrading your guitar, not just to get that tone.

Good choice on the amp though - very nice sounding amps


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My tone gets nowhere near as good, it can do sharper ones, though. I'm asking, it's not the amp that's holding me back, it's the guitar, right? If I was to buy the '57 or '62 Stratocaster I plan on buying, will it sound as good?


EDIT: I know fingers matter, but I can play the intro about as well as he can, and my tone isn't at all as good, it lacks a lot of bottom end, even when I turn up the bass.


The upgrade to a decent strat should make all the difference, if you're not happy with your tone after that then I'd recommend maybe re-examining what you're looking for out of your tone.
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#12
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The upgrade to a decent strat should make all the difference, if you're not happy with your tone after that then I'd recommend maybe re-examining what you're looking for out of your tone.


Well, I'm looking for the song I posted's tone, and Early Ventures and Dick Dale. This guy uses a MIM Classic Series 50's Strat with '57/'62 pickups, the same pups in a '57 and '62 Strat. Is the '57 or '62 Strat the perfect guitar for me?
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Well, I'm looking for the song I posted's tone, and Early Ventures and Dick Dale. This guy uses a MIM Classic Series 50's Strat with '57/'62 pickups, the same pups in a '57 and '62 Strat. Is the '57 or '62 Strat the perfect guitar for me?


That's a bit too in depth for me, I'm not too up on Strats so someone else will have to take over.
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Well, I'm looking for the song I posted's tone, and Early Ventures and Dick Dale. This guy uses a MIM Classic Series 50's Strat with '57/'62 pickups, the same pups in a '57 and '62 Strat. Is the '57 or '62 Strat the perfect guitar for me?


try it out and see for yourself..?
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try it out and see for yourself..?


Yeah, I'm going to a local music store next weekend to try out 3 Strats and 1 Jazzmaster. I'm going to try to take this over to the Surfguitar101 forums, thanks. If you guys have advice, keep it coming.
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Yeah, I'm going to a local music store next weekend to try out 3 Strats and 1 Jazzmaster. I'm going to try to take this over to the Surfguitar101 forums, thanks. If you guys have advice, keep it coming.


if you want surf tone, and don't mind shortscale guitars try out a jag and mustang...great for surf.
#17
generally, amp matters most. you'll notice the most improvement, with a new amp over a guitar, extreme cases where the guitar isnt holding a tune, aside.

even if you had spent $500 on a new guitar, playing it thru a bass amp wouldnt have changed a thing tone-wise.

anyway. mini guitar's usually have intonation problems, add the weak pups and you've got room for improvement, like said.

so save up and you'll be fine soon enough.
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