Poll: Do you believe in natural talent?
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Yes
47 47%
No
10 10%
Somewhat
44 44%
Voters: 101.
#1
So, I did a search bar check on this and I didnt find anything like this.

What I want to know is if you believe in natural talent (Musical or non-musical). I know that some people find it easier to learn a musical instument than others. Do you think its "talent", or is it all down to practice and dedication?

I for one, believe that practice is the only way to get good. I don't believe in somebody just picking up a guitar and getting good without putting shitloads of practice in. Are some people just naturally talented and others not?

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Last edited by madbomber233 at Oct 8, 2008,
#2
I agree with you.
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#4
I think you can find it easier to start an instrument but if you don't practise you'll hit a roadblock pretty quickly, that's where you need to practise like crazy.
#5
Obviously you get people with 'natural talent', these are just people that learn in a specific way that just happens to be very agreeable with the guitar. Other people don't learn in the same way so have to spend a lot more time. Either way, without time and dedication your gonna sound crap anyway.
#6
I believe in talent, but I also believe that you must practice to nurture that talent. Natural talent can only go so far.
#7
I believe that people can be good at playing the guitar because of the way theyre genetically put together, i wouldnt call it a natural talent. Learning any instrument or most anytihng in life, even talking has to be practised over years to become good.
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#8
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I believe in talent, but I also believe that you must practice to nurture that talent. Natural talent can only go so far.


yeah exactly. you get people with a natural flair for something, but that doesnt mean someone without it cant be better. talent is basically a jump start
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#9
I think that practice will bring out talents people have, some people learn certain things easier, while that may not be a 'natural talent' it does give them an advantage in learning the specific task.
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#10
i don't believe in talent
BUT !! some people have ''advantage''
like better finger, greater memory , more ease with music ( theorie ) , etc
but it take some much pratice no matter what
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#11
i think there is such thing as talent, because some people learn quicker than other people no matter how hard they try. even though i'm not a drummer, one example is keith moon from the who. he never practiced and he was ****ing great
#12
Yep, but it also has a lot to do with the age and extent of exposure to whatever it is you do.

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#13
Well it's just like mathematics. Some people just pick it up faster. I dont pick it up at all when we're learning new math things, while my friends gets it right away. I believe it's the same with music to a point. You can only be naturely good to a point, then you have to work harder after that. Some people just get a head start
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#14
Of course there are people with natural talent. I know a guitarist who's been playing for two years that could give Herman Li a run for his money and make it sound good at the same time. I've been playing guitar for four years and I can't even properly sweep. He has the natural talent for it, I don't.
I know a drummer who's been playing over a year that can't keep tempo, has no grasp of rhythm whatsoever, and can only do two basic drum patterns. I've never owned a drumset in my life and I'm better than he is just from sitting at my desk tapping my feet along to the music I listen to. He has no natural talent. I probably don't either, but I have more of it than he does.
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I believe in talent, but I also believe that you must practice to nurture that talent. Natural talent can only go so far.


Yes very true, i mean some people can be very adept with music, but as said - with practise and nuture-ment, it can we wasted or spoiled.
#16
Somewhat.

You can naturally have musical intelligence and be able to adapt to a musical instrument relatively well, but I think it depends on how much you're exposed to it.

If your parents listened to a lot of music when you were younger or maybe they played an instrument or something, I think it makes it a lot easier for you just by being around it.
#18
I'm not sure... I think that talent exists in that you can play well conventionally but i think that imagination is important in making something new that's also interesting. I think that you need both for genius.
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#19
bit of both.
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#20
I don't believe in natural talent.
I believe in building upon interests. If something is interesting, you're going to want to do it more often than not.
Same thing with the guitar. If one is interested, they'll practice and get better faster than someone who's just doing it to get chicks.
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#22
You can teach a monkey to do tricks.

Anyone can play an instrument, anyone can play an instrument well, but not everyone's a musician. But musicianship isn't necessarily 'talent', more whether you're born with the ability to develop perfect pitch and to learn music by ear.

I get pissed off when people say 'you're a good pianist', because if they had taken the same lessons that I had and learnt from the same teacher that I had, they would be able to play the same music.

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#23
I think people can just be naturally good at things. They can pick it up quicker, you know just find it easier than other people starting out. But, if you don't practice then it doesn't matter. You might have an advantage over someone but if they put time into anything when you don't they will get better than you. I mean natural talent only goes so far, no one will be able to be amazing on guitar, throw a football 100 yards, or a baseball 100 m.p.h when they just start off.
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Anyone can play an instrument, anyone can play an instrument well, but not everyone's a musician. But musicianship isn't necessarily 'talent', more whether you're born with the ability to develop perfect pitch and to learn music by ear.

I get pissed off when people say 'you're a good pianist', because if they had taken the same lessons that I had and learnt from the same teacher that I had, they would be able to play the same music.

Songwriting, and musical expression are what come from the heart, though whether talent exists I don't really know.


Doesn't make you any worse at it. You have put enough time in to get good. Besides that, some people have a more natural predisposition, so they learn quicker. That would seem to me like talent.
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#25
Yeah, it's pretty obvious.

There's more ways to measure talent than just playing the instrument alone. I mean, look at Mozart. He started playing when he was around 3, and even at an age that young he still was able to play pieces perfectly with exact timing. He started composing when he was 4, wrote his first symphony at 8, and an entire opera at 11.

Yes, obviously practice contributed greatly, but it's safe to say he had better musical abilities than just about any other composer I can think of. Beethoven's father tried to make him the second coming of Mozart, the next great child prodigy, but he just didn't have the same musical talent Mozart did.

Some people are just better at some things than other people. Some people just have a natural ability to do mathematics, and some people are just very creative. Talent is relative, and it's not like all humans are born the exact same. Genetically, it's not so hard to imagine some people could be born with better genes for certain activities than others.
#26
And also, when it comes to these musicians like Liszt who practiced 8-10 hours a day, to make yourself do that requires a ridiculous amount of devotion, motivation, and desire, which in itself is not something everyone has. People always say "Yeah, anybody can be that good if they practice", but not everyone does practice. Not everyone could force themselves to sit in front of a piano and play just scales and exercises for 5+ hours a day.
#27
Quote from Good Will Hunting explains it all " Beethoven, okay. He looked at a piano, and it just made sense to him. He could just play. I mean, I look at a piano, I see a bunch of keys, three pedals, and a box of wood. But Beethoven, Mozart, they saw it, they could just play. I couldn't paint you a picture, I probably can't hit the ball out of Fenway, and I can't play the piano. But when it came to stuff like that (math, chem, etc) I could always just play"

Everyone has natural born talent in different areas, now you can overcome deficencies with practice, but some people just never have the talent. Mine is in baseball, it comes much easier to me than most at the college level.
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#28
I believe "Natural Talent" is just the ability to practice efficiently.
#29
There are people who excel at things, almost right away. There are people who with practice and work will get just as good as before person. Then there are people who well... Just can't.

It sounds sort of bad, but in my guitar class is a clear example of this.
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