#1
Huge price drop recently.
SG cost like $1500.
Thinking about buying one.
Anyone tried them out?
#2
They sound like Daft Punk since they are robotic.
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#3
I've been looking at them too, I mean, that would be so convenient, just a flip of a switch and you would be in a completely different tuning. It's weird that they're even cheaper than a les paul standard. but I hear they have the same tone and everything, so they sound pretty cool
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wouldnt you just rather buy an sg standard nstead of playing on an sg studio? i dunno why the hell thye made freakin studio models robots. and i think the finishes look gay except for the sg ebony and the silverburst finish on les paul.
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#5
I can't afford ANY type of Gibson, so i don't have to worry about it! Lol...
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i cant believe no one has realized that the robot SG is goin to have the worst neck dive EVER!!


sg's are already famous for having neck dive with out adding three pounds of electronics on the headstock
#7
this is just another way for guitar hero fags to buy into the 'spirit of gibson'. i may sound over opinionated, but what kind of musician gets their guitar to tune itself. could be great on stage, but why not just tune your guitar before you get drunk? one of the first things i learnt to do as a guitarist was to tune my instrument by ear. it really helps you to grasp tone, and notes. my concern is all the rich soccer mums will go and buy one of these travesties when their ten year old decides hes sick of playing guitar hero, or **** band or whatever it is, and give an aspiring musician the worst possible start.

1: they will buy into the gibson coporate image crap, which is almost as crap as most of their overpriced, and under crafted guitars play.

2: they wont even be able to tune their guitar.

sorry guys its just wrong
#8
Quote by metaligeologist
this is just another way for guitar hero fags to buy into the 'spirit of gibson'. i may sound over opinionated, but what kind of musician gets their guitar to tune itself. could be great on stage, but why not just tune your guitar before you get drunk? one of the first things i learnt to do as a guitarist was to tune my instrument by ear. it really helps you to grasp tone, and notes. my concern is all the rich soccer mums will go and buy one of these travesties when their ten year old decides hes sick of playing guitar hero, or **** band or whatever it is, and give an aspiring musician the worst possible start.

1: they will buy into the gibson coporate image crap, which is almost as crap as most of their overpriced, and under crafted guitars play.

2: they wont even be able to tune their guitar.

sorry guys its just wrong

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Quote by metaligeologist
this is just another way for guitar hero fags to buy into the 'spirit of gibson'. i may sound over opinionated, but what kind of musician gets their guitar to tune itself. could be great on stage, but why not just tune your guitar before you get drunk? one of the first things i learnt to do as a guitarist was to tune my instrument by ear. it really helps you to grasp tone, and notes. my concern is all the rich soccer mums will go and buy one of these travesties when their ten year old decides hes sick of playing guitar hero, or **** band or whatever it is, and give an aspiring musician the worst possible start.

1: they will buy into the gibson coporate image crap, which is almost as crap as most of their overpriced, and under crafted guitars play.

2: they wont even be able to tune their guitar.

sorry guys its just wrong


What kind of mom buys a ten year old a gibson for their first guitar...? Must be seriously rich
#12
"this is just another way for guitar hero fags to buy into the 'spirit of gibson'. i may sound over opinionated, but what kind of musician gets their guitar to tune itself. could be great on stage, but why not just tune your guitar before you get drunk? one of the first things i learnt to do as a guitarist was to tune my instrument by ear. it really helps you to grasp tone, and notes. my concern is all the rich soccer mums will go and buy one of these travesties when their ten year old decides hes sick of playing guitar hero, or **** band or whatever it is, and give an aspiring musician the worst possible start.
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you're an idiot the point of the robot tuner is not about keeping it in tune so you don't have to tune it, its about changing tunings with a turn of a knob

go back to your nonconformist pos jacksons
#13
Quote by metaligeologist
this is just another way for guitar hero fags to buy into the 'spirit of gibson'. i may sound over opinionated, but what kind of musician gets their guitar to tune itself. could be great on stage, but why not just tune your guitar before you get drunk? one of the first things i learnt to do as a guitarist was to tune my instrument by ear. it really helps you to grasp tone, and notes. my concern is all the rich soccer mums will go and buy one of these travesties when their ten year old decides hes sick of playing guitar hero, or **** band or whatever it is, and give an aspiring musician the worst possible start.

1: they will buy into the gibson coporate image crap, which is almost as crap as most of their overpriced, and under crafted guitars play.

2: they wont even be able to tune their guitar.

sorry guys its just wrong
Firstly, even if some little kid did have rich (and stupid) enough parents that bought one of these as their first guitar, they'd still have to know how to tune, intonate and re-string the guitar themselves. If anything, the Robot makes this basic stuff harder.

Secondly, tuning before a gig is all fine of course, but what if you get a tuning problem mid-gig? What if you want to use eight different tunings in a show but only have space to take three or four guitars with you? That's where the Robot comes in, and that's where it is good.


Though none of this gets around the fact that they're putting them on the bloody Studio and Special models - which totally defeats the point. Nobody would use one of those for an actual gig anyway, they're not even good for recording (ironic, really). Then there's the issue that you basically can't customise the guitar in any way, which has always been the downfall of the Fender S-1 switch and VG guitars - all these fancy wirings and systems are good ideas so long as you keep the guitar stock, but the second you try to to change anything it all goes tits-up and you've shitted over a grand down the toilet.
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Firstly, even if some little kid did have rich (and stupid) enough parents that bought one of these as their first guitar, they'd still have to know how to tune, intonate and re-string the guitar themselves. If anything, the Robot makes this basic stuff harder.

Secondly, tuning before a gig is all fine of course, but what if you get a tuning problem mid-gig? What if you want to use eight different tunings in a show but only have space to take three or four guitars with you? That's where the Robot comes in, and that's where it is good.


Though none of this gets around the fact that they're putting them on the bloody Studio and Special models - which totally defeats the point. Nobody would use one of those for an actual gig anyway, they're not even good for recording (ironic, really). Then there's the issue that you basically can't customise the guitar in any way, which has always been the downfall of the Fender S-1 switch and VG guitars - all these fancy wirings and systems are good ideas so long as you keep the guitar stock, but the second you try to to change anything it all goes tits-up and you've shitted over a grand down the toilet.

+1. Fender hurt themselves by the lack of a MIDI out too, which pissed off a lot of people (me included). These guitars have their place. That said, they don't quite work reliably enough to be effective in the real world. Also, isn't the S-1 just a series/parallel/phase switch or something? I think some guys at Duncan forum had it figured out, and if you can do those crazy type of wiring jobs, it's actually not insurmountable to work on.
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Also, isn't the S-1 just a series/parallel/phase switch or something? I think some guys at Duncan forum had it figured out, and if you can do those crazy type of wiring jobs, it's actually not insurmountable to work on.
It's nearly impossible to un-solder without causing damage to the switch. So far nobody's actually managed to do a complete re-wire job with the S-1 without at least losing some of the original functionality.
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#17
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i am not an idiot. i take it you have one zags? 8 different tunings? that sounds like some gig?


too true man, i cannot name a band that uses more than 3 different tunings. even cover bands. i have plays an sg and the neck dive is horribal, not to mention the robot guitar. HOW COULD YOU COPE WITH THAT MUCH NECK DIVE!!!!!
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too true man, i cannot name a band that uses more than 3 different tunings. even cover bands. i have plays an sg and the neck dive is horribal, not to mention the robot guitar. HOW COULD YOU COPE WITH THAT MUCH NECK DIVE!!!!!

I can name lots of bands. Metallica uses E, Eb, D standard, and I think C on St.Anger? (Not that they play that live). Van Halen uses E, Eb, Drop A (true drop A, with all the others standard except for the A), Drop D, and some crazy tuning on Little Guitars that was a full step and a half up or something IIRC. Soundgarden used E, Drop D and open C. Velvet Revolver uses drop D, E, and Eb tunings. The Beatles used too many to count... so yes, I can think of plenty of bands that use it. Also, I know lots of people who could play with that much neck dive, as alot of people here have Epi Sgs, Jackson bolt-on RRs and Kellys, Dean MLs, and other guitars known for that.
#19
Quote by metaligeologist
this is just another way for guitar hero fags to buy into the 'spirit of gibson'. i may sound over opinionated, but what kind of musician gets their guitar to tune itself. could be great on stage, but why not just tune your guitar before you get drunk? one of the first things i learnt to do as a guitarist was to tune my instrument by ear. it really helps you to grasp tone, and notes. my concern is all the rich soccer mums will go and buy one of these travesties when their ten year old decides hes sick of playing guitar hero, or **** band or whatever it is, and give an aspiring musician the worst possible start.

1: they will buy into the gibson coporate image crap, which is almost as crap as most of their overpriced, and under crafted guitars play.

2: they wont even be able to tune their guitar.

sorry guys its just wrong

Look dude have you ever ****ing heard of alternate tunings?
Tuning gets pretty annoying if you have to change it frequently.
I have no problem tuning my guitar by ear.
Many people use seperate guitars on stage for this but i don't have much cash and it seems ridiculous to have to change guitars just for tuning.
#20
Bweuh. Second thread in a day on the same subject.

Lets put it this way. Why do you think the Robot 'tars have dropped so much in price?

* * * NO-ONE WANTS THEM * * *


If youu must get an automatically tuning guitar, wait until the system is actually working. If youu check out any professional review of the Robot Guitar you'll find out that 50% of the time you still have to tune a little after the thing has done its job. So who cares.

And stop whining about Studios they're just Standards with a less fancy paintjob. There I've said it
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#21
^My studio doesn't even have a paint job. You don't hear me complaining about it. I think it's a great guitar. I think the robot is going to open up a lot of options for bands when it catches on.
#22
its clever, but being a fender man myself, i liked the idea of the VG strat, you have to tune it yourself but then when you twist a knob it puts you in different tunings
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#24
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you're an idiot the point of the robot tuner is not about keeping it in tune so you don't have to tune it, its about changing tunings with a turn of a knob

go back to your nonconformist pos jacksons





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#25
they are the sh*t dude, i played one at a specialty guitar shop, and i think i came quiet honestly lol and for 1500 i'd definetely go for it if i had the money...but i am poor
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#26
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What kind of mom buys a ten year old a gibson for their first guitar...? Must be seriously rich



My friend at school has had a Gibson SG and a good Marshall amp + pedals for a few years and we're only in year 9.

Im stuck with a rg350 and a 20w storm australia practice amp