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That's the feeling I get about him. I mean god, he's been playing for a solid couple of decades, so you'd think he would be a lot better then he lets on.
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You know, Rivers was in a Power/Prog-metal band called Avant Garde right? He was the lead guitarist, he played some nice riffs.
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Guitar wise?

definitely Zakk Wylde. lol.

but seriously, i think Pete townshend hold back a lot. his solos are always very short and simple. but he's like a madman onstage, physically.

john mayer as well. he doesn't really go crazy with solos.
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100 percent agree with Rivers Cuomo. Some of the shit he plays is quite lovely and leaves me feeling like he could do much better if he felt like it.


Pretty killer guitar tone too, I dig his leads on Perfect Situation.


The tone too


Probably a Fuzz pedal, wah, and compressor in front of a cranked Marshall of some sort.

EDIT: I just found a vid of Avant Garde, Rivers busts out some shreddy stuff at like 4 minutes. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z687XnigaLs

It's pretty weird listening to it, and then putting in the Blue Album.
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Guitar wise?

definitely Zakk Wylde. lol.

but seriously, i think Pete townshend hold back a lot. his solos are always very short and simple. but he's like a madman onstage, physically.

john mayer as well. he doesn't really go crazy with solos.

He does a bit, nowadays.
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David Gilmour.He just never shows off with his solos
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Underneath it all, you know he's a hell of a shredder.
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Its great to see Rivers was mentioned right away. I really don't get what has happened to that band. There used to always be some nice solos in every song, and this new album has no solos and the only cool guitar riff was played by Patrick Wilson, the drummer.

Blue Album and Pinkerton were absolutely brilliant lyrically and musically. Green album could have been 100x better if it was produced better and if it had real solos instead of the Melody. Malidroit had some cool riffs, when I heard it I thought Rivers was going back to his metal roots.

Then Make Believe was total ****ing garbage. The riff into We Are All on Drugs is cool, written by the rhythm guitarist, Brian Bell but the rest of that album sucked.

The new album has a few cool songs. The Greatest Man that Ever Lived is good but the spoken word part kills it. It fits them though, a goofy nerdy take on an old Shaker Hymn played in a few different styles. Ms Sweeny is real good too. But the rest is crap. I heard they were having trouble with their label before, maybe they are just making crap real quick to get out of contract? Although Make Believe sorta was more commercially succesful than any other album, which sucks cause now they are going to be pushed to make more crap.

Check out the solo about 2 minutes in in Tired of Sex:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZKKWCdlauA
In The Garage has a cool solo. Rivers was on the ground playing it when I saw them live:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMcrbWC6PQY
Only In Dreams has a cool climatic dual of sorts at the end:
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Alex Lifeson now holds back solo wise 90% of the time, then the other 10% he melts your face.
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I'd have to go with Mayer.. I like that he never runs to the shred mill everytime he tries to improvise a solo.. I like how he takes his time with it and puts so much feel and melody into his soloing..

Shred Mill.. hmm.. oh well..
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Randy Rhoads hold back a lot. Its probably because hes dead but hes stilling holding back.


I don't think Randy Rhoads held back so much as he didn't really get the time to demonstrate what he was capable of. He really only cut 2 albums with Ozzy and probably thought that he had a couple of more albums to show what he could do before he would quit the band. Even still, he probably wouldn't unload because Randy wasn't all about 'who's guitar penis is bigger', he was a melody guy through and through.
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I don't think Randy Rhoads held back so much as he didn't really get the time to demonstrate what he was capable of. He really only cut 2 albums with Ozzy and probably thought that he had a couple of more albums to show what he could do before he would quit the band. Even still, he probably wouldn't unload because Randy wasn't all about 'who's guitar penis is bigger', he was a melody guy through and through.



Thats what im saying. Imagine a Rhoads solo album. Whould have been amazing.
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David Gilmour.He just never shows off with his solos


Thats his style though, he's always like that solo or with Pink Floyd. He's not a very technical player but melodic. So no I wouldn't say he's holding back, he's in his element.
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Ironicly, he actually was. He was a much better guitarist, but he played the way he did cause he wanted to. He was really into, and could play, old 80's metal, and stuff likes the cars and shit, queen.
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Ironicly, he actually was. He was a much better guitarist, but he played the way he did cause he wanted to. He was really into, and could play, old 80's metal, and stuff likes the cars and shit, queen.


Those were just his influences and what he liked. There's no proof that he could actually play rhe stuff.


I consider him a great composer and song writer but he's a hack guitar player.
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actually Kurts guitar playing is not that bad. like that 16th-note lick in love buzz, its not that easy to play. but hes still not a shredder ^^

and the fact that rivers can shred really impressed, although there are a few songs in which his abilities did come through a bit like dope nose
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Don Anderson from Agalloch/Sculptured.

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EVH.. jk

but probably brad whitford from aerosmith or malcom young
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Am i the only one here who find that billy corgan video just awful? Like REALLY awful? Its off scale, its widly widly widly, its just random fretboard wanking, and not even well done.
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I consider him a great composer and song writer but he's a hack guitar player.

I agree. He was a great musical mind, but his hands werent very capable.
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def. malcom young, angus says hes better but just shy. (it thats true and not just a compliment imagine how awesome malcom would be.)
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def. malcom young, angus says hes better but just shy. (it thats true and not just a compliment imagine how awesome malcom would be.)

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Am i the only one here who find that billy corgan video just awful? Like REALLY awful? Its off scale, its widly widly widly, its just random fretboard wanking, and not even well done.


Still better than having him sing...
#33
Yeah agree on Malcolm young and Joe Trohman... I reckon joe trohmans a much better guitarist than his band allows him to be
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Richie Sambora. He is quite a killer guitarist but knows when its his place to show it
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agree with malcolm young. ive read in an interview somewhere that he could play any of angus' solos easily, but he didnt want to hurt his drinking hand
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I don't think Randy Rhoads held back so much as he didn't really get the time to demonstrate what he was capable of. He really only cut 2 albums with Ozzy and probably thought that he had a couple of more albums to show what he could do before he would quit the band. Even still, he probably wouldn't unload because Randy wasn't all about 'who's guitar penis is bigger', he was a melody guy through and through.


No, in guitar world magazine i read an article about him with ozzy. What i got from that was that the band was really falling apart when randy died, and after the tour they were on that randy wanted to go study classical guitar at a university.
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Yeah agree on Malcolm young and Joe Trohman... I reckon joe trohmans a much better guitarist than his band allows him to be


also the guy with the big curly hair in mcr, i 4get his name, but he is pretty good.
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Am i the only one here who find that billy corgan video just awful? Like REALLY awful? Its off scale, its widly widly widly, its just random fretboard wanking, and not even well done.


yeh that sounded awful, no skills or melody or anything really. wanking was a good description for it
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agree with malcolm young. ive read in an interview somewhere that he could play any of angus' solos easily, but he didnt want to hurt his drinking hand


From what I've heard, Malcolm writes the solos, and Angus just plays them. I remember a quote from Angus saying the riff from back in black was written by Malcolm, and he still can't play it properly, the way Malcolm does, and its sounds so much better.
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