#1
I want to get a decent tube combo that has good distortion. I play metal, usually pretty heavy, and want a lot of gain (of corse). I was lookin at the crate V series because there pretty cheap.

http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Crate-V-Series-V33212-33W-2x12-Tube-Guitar-Combo-Amp?sku=487056


Suggestions?
#2
Don't buy a classic rock amp and try to get metal out of it. Save up or look used for an amp that is voiced more for metal.

Edit: Used Randall RG50tc, Roland Cube 30, Vypyr 30 would all be better for metal than the crate. I like the crate, it's just not a "metal" amp.
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#3
The V series are on sale now, and really are worth much more than that. I would get a Peavey Windsor head and use your Flexwave cabinet. Windsors are supposed to be like single-channel JCMs, so check those out if you dont need 2 channels. I would look at heads,too, since you already have a cab, and itll be cheaper than buying a combo amp.
#4
If you're really on a budget and you want high-gain, you should check out the Hybrid Randall amps. The RH150G3 is a great amp for heavier stuff.


If you can stretch your budget, check out B-52 amps, Bugera amps and the Randall RG50TC.
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#6
save up a bit more cash and get the Randall RG50TC, i have one and it's unbelievably good
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#7
B-52's go for about $350 used, I have seen the RG50tc for $400 usually. I have not tried the b-52 but I did quite like the Randall. Also a H&K edition tube used would be in the same range. A used VK112 is usually $225-275 - which has a love/hate deal with metal guys/gals, but I liked it for metal when I played it.
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#8
so randalls and B-52s are good?
And i was only saying a combo because i thought they would be cheaper for some reason..


EDIT: I dont care if i just get a different head, its the price that matters.
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#9
sorry i have a question, a lot of randall amps talk about their "valve-dynamic" feature combining the best of tube and solid state convenience or something. so are they tube amps? can i use a tube screamer with them and get just as much out of it as with a plain tube amp?
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#10
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sorry i have a question, a lot of randall amps talk about their "valve-dynamic" feature combining the best of tube and solid state convenience or something. so are they tube amps? can i use a tube screamer with them and get just as much out of it as with a plain tube amp?


No you won't. All of that stuff is just marketing bullshit. You should treat it more like a solid-state amp.

You can still use the Tubescreamer to tighten things up though.
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#11
VOX XL

ive got the VT, and it puts out some huge distortion. havent tried the XL though.
#12
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VOX XL

ive got the VT, and it puts out some huge distortion. havent tried the XL though.


Not a tube amp.
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#13
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Not a tube amp.



hybrid. I cant really see a difference. I actually like the tone better than the 5150 i play at my local store.

and full tube amps are pretty expensive, even for just a head it costs the same as a 50 watt vox.
#14
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hybrid. I cant really see a difference. I actually like the tone better than the 5150 i play at my local store.

and full tube amps are pretty expensive, even for just a head it costs the same as a 50 watt vox.


No offence, but you're a little bit misinformed.


You may not notice a difference now, but there is quite a difference, especially if you play loud.

There are cheap tubes amps too you know? Just like there are expensive solid-states.
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#15
look at
B52 at-112
randall rg50tc
and bugera, mainly the 6262.
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#16
bugera 6262, very good tone, very good price.

check it out you must.
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#17
the b-52 that everyone had reccommended is good but its very hit-or-miss. its hard to get a perfect metal tone, and on 8, its not audible over a drummer. at least thats the case for me
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#18
what about the peavey valveking 112? what does anyone say on that? I was thinking of buying it, I also play metal, and some hard rock and classic.
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#19
ok i was looking for the same thing about 3 weeks ago and i read what everyone said about the crate v33 for metal...

i was very skeptical and went with it anyways... i use a boss metal zone pedal and i am very pleased with the metal tone i get out of it... its a great amp for the price i think...unless i got a one of a kind