#1
how do you guys compare Peavey classic 30 vs. Windsor vs. valveking?
Any idea is appreciated.
#2
All>Valveking.

All being all other tube amps.

The Windsor is a good amp if you get a good cab.
C30 is also a good amp.
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#3
the valveking is good for people that just realized their spider III is terrible. but it doesnt have much life to it. C30 has great cleans, but ive never tried out the distortion.
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the valveking is good for people that just realized their spider III is terrible. but it doesnt have much life to it. C30 has great cleans, but ive never tried out the distortion.



it has great distortion for classic rock and you get metal tone with an od in front

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#5
Go with the windsor. Had mine a little less then a year. No problems.
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#6
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The Windsor is a good amp if you get a good cab.


is the Windsor 412 cab good enough?
#7
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is the Windsor 412 cab good enough?


It's not the best, but if you have no money, it will do fine.
I say go for it.
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#10
Windsor and Classic 30 are the better ones, as opposed to the ValveKing. The VK still is a VERY nice amp despite what people on here say, its just that the Windsor has better distortion (no, im not talking about metal), and the C30 has very nice cleans as opposed to the VK being ok at both
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#11
Quote by Simsimius
All>Valveking.

All being all other tube amps.

The Windsor is a good amp if you get a good cab.
C30 is also a good amp.

+1
The Windsor is actually alright. It just is a bitch trying to get a clean sound at a decent volume. The Classic 30 is great but I don't really like the Valveking
#12
I myself prefer C30.
But what would you do if you had to pay 900 for C30 (don't care the unit) and about 550 for valveking 112? The Windsor head and cab is about 900 too.
#13
I would try to find a used Classic 30.

The VK is a budget tube amp.

IMO - you are going about this wrong.

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#14
I would go used like I always do. I got my classic 30 for 425 with new tubes and a new speaker. It's teh winzorz. What genres are you playing anyways. The Classic 30 excels at classic rock, blues and like a Guns 'n roses sort of hard rock. The Valveking isn't that great for much, I really just don't think it has a good sound. And if you had to choose between the C30 and Windsor, definetly the 30. But still, genres?
#15
mcrfobtai - i know you don't like the valveking but do me a favor and go The Valveking Thread and find the Blues clip on page 3 and the clip right below that.

Not bad for a $400 stock VK. Does it sound as good as a Classic 30 - no. Is the VK a versatile amp that can do lots of genres - yes.
#16
Valvekings are worth the money, they are good, not great, good. they are versatile, they CAN do metal.
it comes down to 2 things that these UG experts dont know when they test it for 10mins in guitar centre.
1. Input 1 is high gain, about .16db higher compared to input 2.
2. there is a texture control on the back of the amp, it changes the amp from using 2 power tubes (for lower volume) to 4 power tubes.

if you get all of that right you can get any sound you want without a pedal.
#17
Quote by 311ZOSOVHJH
mcrfobtai - i know you don't like the valveking but do me a favor and go The Valveking Thread and find the Blues clip on page 3 and the clip right below that.

Not bad for a $400 stock VK. Does it sound as good as a Classic 30 - no. Is the VK a versatile amp that can do lots of genres - yes.

It's true it is versitile but I just can't get a sound that is as good as my c30. and I got mine for slightly more then a new VK.
#18
Quote by 311ZOSOVHJH
Is the VK a versatile amp that can do lots of genres - yes.


What the saying?

Oh, yes.. Jack of all trades, master of none.

Go for a C30 or Windsor.
C30 is better. Windsor is second best.
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#19
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I myself prefer C30.
But what would you do if you had to pay 900 for C30 (don't care the unit) and about 550 for valveking 112? The Windsor head and cab is about 900 too.

No brainer, get the VK and call it a day. But you "prefer" the C30 so you have to make a call there. Is it worth the extra cash to you? Are you just going to pine away wishing you got the C30 if you got a VK?

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#20
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Valvekings are worth the money, they are good, not great, good. they are versatile, they CAN do metal.
it comes down to 2 things that these UG experts dont know when they test it for 10mins in guitar centre.
1. Input 1 is high gain, about .16db higher compared to input 2.
2. there is a texture control on the back of the amp, it changes the amp from using 2 power tubes (for lower volume) to 4 power tubes.

if you get all of that right you can get any sound you want without a pedal.
Where do you get your info from?

1. Input 1 is 6 dbs higher than input 2, not 16.
2. The texture control allows the user to have the amp sound either like a class A/B amp, or simulate class A poweramp voicing. It has nothing to do with using two or four tubes. The amp always uses all four bottles. Unless you pull two. Which Peavey advises against.
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#21
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Where do you get your info from?

1. Input 1 is 6 dbs higher than input 2, not 16.
2. The texture control allows the user to have the amp sound either like a class A/B amp, or simulate class A poweramp voicing. It has nothing to do with using two or four tubes. The amp always uses all four bottles. Unless you pull two. Which Peavey advises against.

The manual
might of got some info wrong but that is how it works and the point still stands, you need to know of these things to get a metal tone. I'll record something to show at some point.
#22
Quote by 311ZOSOVHJH

Budget?
Music Style?
Home or Gig?
New or Used?
Closest Major City?

Thank you all.
- In my country I can not find a better deal than the list price. My list-price-budget is 1000USD.
- I like almost all music styles. But I'm not a metal fan. I like solos of classic rock. That "November rain" tone. Kind of cry/moan sound.
- mostly home.
- New.
#23
OK. Well, I would definitley go with the Classic 30. I only really recommend the Valveking for folks who want to do metal on a budget or have less then $500. We see Classic 30's on craigslist all the time in the $400-$600 range which is why I asked what major city. That is the only way to search. You can obviously do that yourself if you are reluctant to give us the City. They are well built and hold their value real well so do not hesitate to at least look and save yourself some cash. Otherwise, get a new one and rock out.
#24
^What 311 said. But I would try the VK if I were you as well as the Classic 30 and see what suits you. I quite like the VK (and don't own one) but everyone has different taste.
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