#1
Hey all, just have a few probably fiarly simple questions about the correlation between pickups and good sounding pinched harmonics.

Gear : Schecter C1+, Crate XT120R amp, and line6 tonecore pedal with uber metal module(dont like the sound it creates...) but i use the gain and shape from my amp because i feel the pedal i bought takes away from the tone my guitar puts out.

ive been playing about 2 years now, and love it, i play stuff like parkway drive just for example and i cant seem to get good sounding pinched harmonics out of my setup. on rare occasions i can get a decent one, but they just sound hollow and dont ring out very long. im using the stock duncan designed pickups and was thinking about putting a single emg on it instead of two because i hear emg's muddy-up the tone a bit. would emg's make the difference or is it my amp? i tried a 120watt(i think) line6 amp and my guitar sounded beautiful but just barely better harmonics. am i trying to make my guitar into something its not? a metal guitar?

If so i was thinking about getting another and having separate guitars for the different types of music i like playing. what would you guys suggest if you tihnk i should get another guitar in the <500 range??
#3
Pinch Harmonics aren't in the pickup and amp. It's all in the technique.


I could plug a Fender Esquire into a Fender Deluxe and do them so you can surely do them with stupid amounts of gain.

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#4
they are a bit easier with high gain, but its all in the technique when it comes to pinch harmonics...your definitely doing something wrong

EDIT: line 6 amps suck, do not get one
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EDIT: line 6 amps suck, do not get one

only the spiders suck....flextones are great
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#6
noted, thanks for the help. its just my friend has an esp i dont know what model and i do them no problem they sound phenomenal.

what amp would you guys reccommend? im not getting a stack, i cant afford it and wouldnt be able to make use of it.
#7
how much do you have to spend, what type of music do you play, do you gig/play in a band/or jam with friends?
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#8
i just jam with friends right now i cant find any friends that are decent enough or have any musical ability lol.

but i play pretty much everything from protest the hero to emmure to parkway drive to arsonists get all the girls.

on a side note, i can get a pinched harmonic every time i try it just doesnt sound good IMO, which is what led me to believe its the setup im using.
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Flextones are overated.

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Pinch Harmonics aren't in the pickup and amp. It's all in the technique.


I could plug a Fender Esquire into a Fender Deluxe and do them so you can surely do them with stupid amounts of gain.

Practice Practice Practice.


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get your technique down really good
#11
yeah all technique
also u wouldnt happen to want to sell that c-1+ would u? haha
seriously though...?
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#12
haha no way im keeping this guitar till im too old to play it probably lol.

i think its more of being in drop b with thin strings cause im noticing it sounds alot better in standard or down half a step
#13
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Pinch Harmonics aren't in the pickup and amp. It's all in the technique.


^Truth. Billy Gibbons can do it on an Esquire without pushing the gain very far at all on his amp. Proof enough that its in the technique.
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#14
i can do them on clean sounds wank..but yea no gain required..just sounds high and pingy..can do harms on all strings all frets with some wicked gain :P
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Quote by H4T3BR33D3R
Pinch Harmonics aren't in the pickup and amp. It's all in the technique.


I could plug a Fender Esquire into a Fender Deluxe and do them so you can surely do them with stupid amounts of gain.

Practice Practice Practice.

Are you saying my amp is bad?
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Are you saying my amp is bad?


No, I'm saying your amp is clean and shimmery you knob.
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#19
Don't forget set-up and intonation. If the guitar isn't set-up, tuned and intonated right, then it can be hard to get pinch harmonics out correctly, because they'll have to be done in a different place than usual.
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#21
I spent like 3 weeks trying to get pinch harmonics with a big friggin' Tortex pick, but then I borrowed my buddy's Jazz III pick and got it INSTANTLY. Serious, these picks are awesome. Go try one out. You can get a pinch harmonic without having to shift the pick between your fingers like I've seen others do; you can get one just by holding the pick normally. This is mostly because they're so small. Keep in mind that each string has a "Sweet Spot" for P.H.s, so keep trying 'em in different areas along the strings.

Oh, and cranking the treble helps. And practice is the only thing that'll help you for sure...other than Jazz III picks...
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#22
Quote by H4T3BR33D3R
Pinch Harmonics aren't in the pickup and amp. It's all in the technique.

I could plug a Fender Esquire into a Fender Deluxe and do them so you can surely do them with stupid amounts of gain.

Practice Practice Practice.

yes thats correct, but even if he's got perfect technique if hes playing through a Fender Esquire into a Fender Deluxe the pinch harmonics are never going to sound like zakk wylde or dimebag.

i can do pinch harmonics on anything as well but they still sound different on different pieces of gear.

having said that, most people who ask about pinch harmonics on here want to know how they get them to sound more like those guys, so if we give them the benefit of the doubt and assume they have got the technique down then the ways of improving their PH sound would be to get higher output pickups and play with more gain.