If you hypnotized someone into having sex with you, would it be considered rape?

Poll: Sex via Hypnotism Rape?
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Yes
47 85%
No
8 15%
Voters: 55.
#1
First off, I'm not a rapist, and not looking to get laid. But I have been doing a bit a research on the subject for a potential concept album I've been toying with, and well it raised an interesting question.

Hypnotized people do such bizarre things so willingly, this theory holds, because the conscious mind is not filtering and relaying the information they take in. It seems like the hypnotist's suggestions are coming directly from the subconscious, rather than from another person. You react automatically to these impulses and suggestions, just as you would to your own thoughts. Of course, your subconscious mind does have a conscience, a survival instinct and its own ideas, so there are a lot of things it won't agree to.

I'm not a hypnotist, don't plan on being one, or hypnotizing anyone, but if you did, and they had sex with you, would it be wrong? Because according to this, a person won't do something they're conscientiously against. So by going through with it, they'd be willing, even if it was on a subconscious level.

I'm not gonna share my view right away, because I want it to start out neutral, but what do you think?
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#7
yes

sex won't be life-threatening, so the subconsciousn will agree to it
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I voted yes because the person isn't conscious to make a decision.
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#10
i have been hypnotised and you are completly aware of your surronding and what is being asked of you but your sub concious thinks for you so i wouldnt call it rape because you would be aware of whats happening
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#14
Of course it would be considered rape...

EDIT: Even if she consented to being hypnotized, it would still be rape, because she would not know that she was going to be raped.
Last edited by punk_metal at Oct 14, 2008,
#15
Rape is any unwanted or non-consensual form of sexuality, whether physical or mental. Id the person did not agree to before hand, then yes, it would be rape.


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#16
I would consider it rape, but on a theoretical level, they are consenting and saying it is ok, simply because you won't do something you don't want to do.

So if you do have sex, it means you wanted to.

At least that's how I've interpreted it.
#17
clearly she's not truly consenting is she?
same as if she'd drunk or high or something.
#18
I have this feeling a great number of people from the pit are goin to start learning how to Hypnotized people, just to get laid.
#19
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I would consider it rape, but on a theoretical level, they are consenting and saying it is ok, simply because you won't do something you don't want to do.

So if you do have sex, it means you wanted to.

At least that's how I've interpreted it.


Well, hypnotizing someone into having sex with you is along the lines of giving the person GHB, or another form of date-rape drug. It affects their mental state, so they can't control themselves the way they would have if unaltered. If you're hypnotizing the person into doing it, you're telling them that they will, or want to have sex with you. No matter how you look at it, it would be considered rape.

Unless of course the person consented to it before hand, knowing that they would be hypnotized.

It wouldn't hold up in court very well, though.
#20
technically it would because it is not consensual and the person is not of sound mind, therefore cannot willingly consent, except for subconciously, which does not count as sound mind
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Well, hypnotizing someone into having sex with you is along the lines of giving the person GHB, or another form of date-rape drug. It affects their mental state, so they can't control themselves the way they would have if unaltered. If you're hypnotizing the person into doing it, you're telling them that they will, or want to have sex with you. No matter how you look at it, it would be considered rape.

Unless of course the person consented to it before hand, knowing that they would be hypnotized.

It wouldn't hold up in court very well, though.


All your doing is suggesting it, but not forcing it. It's only different in the fact that sex is such a heavy subject.

And isn't rape just forced sex?
#22
It doesn't matter if its suggestion or force. Rape is rape. I'm speaking truth. It doesn't matter if you talk someone who is sound of mind into doing it. If that person decides to take legal actions afterward, then you could be held responsible for it.
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It doesn't matter if its suggestion or force. Rape is rape. I'm speaking truth. It doesn't matter if you talk someone who is sound of mind into doing it. If that person decides to take legal actions afterward, then you could be held responsible for it.


Unfortunately true. Well fortunately true. But the sad case is that you know some people have been wrongfully imprisoned by others who willingly gave consent, but afterwards decided to press charges.

By no means take this a sympathetic statement to rapists, but a statement against injustice. My argument is based on the idea of a perfect world, though.
#25
so what if a person was never willing to even be hippnotized by a psychiatric doctor and they hipnoforced him or her into sexual situations they would have never done. rather it was something gay when they were never gay. something because they were detained to a psychiatric phacility and were hipnoforced into having sex with someone 10-70 years older then them cuz that's what they wanted and cuz they felt they were in sexual need of them..cuz I swear that's what happened to me and I am so not okay with that stuff a d how would I ever even be able to prove any of that stuff if I was hypnoforced into thinking non of it happened tell I got home how would they at that point been doing anything for me as the paicents well being
#26
no because hypnotism is bullshit
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so what if a person was never willing to even be hippnotized by a psychiatric doctor and they hipnoforced him or her into sexual situations they would have never done. rather it was something gay when they were never gay. something because they were detained to a psychiatric phacility and were hipnoforced into having sex with someone 10-70 years older then them cuz that's what they wanted and cuz they felt they were in sexual need of them..cuz I swear that's what happened to me and I am so not okay with that stuff a d how would I ever even be able to prove any of that stuff if I was hypnoforced into thinking non of it happened tell I got home how would they at that point been doing anything for me as the paicents well being


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so what if a person was never willing to even be hippnotized by a psychiatric doctor and they hipnoforced him or her into sexual situations they would have never done. rather it was something gay when they were never gay. something because they were detained to a psychiatric phacility and were hipnoforced into having sex with someone 10-70 years older then them cuz that's what they wanted and cuz they felt they were in sexual need of them..cuz I swear that's what happened to me and I am so not okay with that stuff a d how would I ever even be able to prove any of that stuff if I was hypnoforced into thinking non of it happened tell I got home how would they at that point been doing anything for me as the paicents well being

As someone working towards their PhD in this exact field, I can say confidently that you are a massive gay.
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