Poll: Which is more believable?
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View poll results: Which is more believable?
will clean 85% of germs
26 24%
will clean 99.9% of germs
33 31%
I just lick my kitchen counter to clean it
49 45%
Voters: 108.
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#1


Most disinfecting stuff say they kill 99.9% of germs . And there's a reason why they say it doesn't clean 100%. Basically, it doesn't clean that much, they just say it does so you don't get nervous about using their products.

What I'm saying is when they say 99.9%, it very unlikely.

The question now is, which would believe: a cleaner that says it'll clean 85% of germs [more likely], or 99.9% [bs]?

Which would you buy?
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#2
99.9%.

It probably kills 100% of all known germs, it's the 0.1% that they haven't tested / got enough data that they can't guarantee.

It's like condoms. If they work, they're 100% effective really, but they don't advertise it.
#3
The 99.9% one, so I don't get nervous when using it.

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#5
Basically, it doesn't clean that much, they just say it does so you don't get nervous about using their products.

Source?
#6
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They can't lie about that by law, so, yea, 99.9%.

Even so, doesn't mean they can't get away with it.
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#7
You're stupid. They say 99.99% because there is absolutely NO way of GUARANTEEING that you killed every last germ. They don't want someone doing a swab of a cleaned surface and picking up one or two germs that might be left and culturing them and going "NUH UH! YOU GUYS ARE LIARS!!!"

So it really is very close to 100%, but they can't advertise 100% for fear of being sued.
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#8
How do we know that your not lying about the fact that they do not clean 99.9%? I wait in anticipation for your answer.
#9
It's basically impossible to eliminate all germs from a surface with chemicals.

What I like is that it takes about 20 minutes to half an hour for the number of germs on a surface to double, up until the population peaks. So if you start with 0.01%, how long until the population is back to what it started as?
#10
Apparently I'm the only one that licks their counter.
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#11
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How do we know that your not lying about the fact that they do not clean 99.9%? I wait in anticipation for your answer.

How sure are you that they do?
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#12
Most of them will actually kill 100% of the germs, but they can't guarantee there won't be a mutant resistant to the cleaner, or that you yourself will do a thorough enough job to get everything so they say 99.9%.
#14
85% because I AM NOT A MACHINE!!
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#16
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So it really is very close to 100%, but they can't advertise 100% for fear of being sued.

This. We just dicussed this in infectious diseases class. Although the discussion was about birth control, the same thing applies here. No one can guarantee %100.

But still, even %99.9 is an extremely high number for any disinfectant.
#17
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Most of them will actually kill 100% of the germs, but they can't guarantee there won't be a mutant resistant to the cleaner, or that you yourself will do a thorough enough job to get everything so they say 99.9%.

Makes sense.

I still don't trust it though.
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#18
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It's basically impossible to eliminate all germs from a surface with chemicals.

What I like is that it takes about 20 minutes to half an hour for the number of germs on a surface to double, up until the population peaks. So if you start with 0.01%, how long until the population is back to what it started as?


Assuming 20 mins to double - about 5 hours.
#19
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Makes sense.

I still don't trust it though.


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#21
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This is the Pit, it's a personal opinion.

Then how the hell can you claim that it's a lie? You have don't have one shred of scientific data to back up your retarded statement.

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#22
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All the mysteries and problems in the world and your worried that your cleaner isn't as effective as thay say....

Yes because it is the only thing I think about
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#25
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Apparently I'm the only one that licks their counter.
I never licked a counter. I liked a Countess, once.
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#26
I think a few germs wouldnt go a miss anyhow if everything was totally germ free, we would get very ill very quickly if we came into contact with them....
#27
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They can't lie about that by law, so, yea, 99.9%.


Seems like they lie about alot, since every band is the best band on earth and their CD is the most sold one out there now.
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#29
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Seems like they lie about alot, since every band is the best band on earth and their CD is the most sold one out there now.


lol, yea, but that is opinion. With stuff like cleaners you can prove their claims with science so they need to scrutnize I guess
#30
Its worst when they lie in an advertisement for a show.

They come up with some bullshit line to hook in viewers.

Then they paste 5 random scenes together to make it look like somethings it not.


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#31
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Most disinfecting stuff say they kill 99.9% of germs . And there's a reason why they say it doesn't clean 100%. Basically, it doesn't clean that much, they just say it does so you don't get nervous about using their products.

What I'm saying is when they say 99.9%, it very unlikely.

The question now is, which would believe: a cleaner that says it'll clean 85% of germs [more likely], or 99.9% [bs]?

Which would you buy?


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#32
In chemistry I learned that 99.9% isnt really good enough, only 99.99% is effictive at killing anything that will kill you. Based on this I would buy one which kills 99.99%.
#35
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In chemistry I learned that 99.9% isnt really good enough, only 99.99% is effictive at killing anything that will kill you. Based on this I would buy one which kills 99.99%.


What sort of shit was that ? I didn't get a word...

Umm i think it's good enough. Hey it works, and we're all alive. Besides i guess we've already built an immunity to household germs...
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#36
I think they say that to avoid any possible law suites.
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#37
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lol, yea, but that is opinion. With stuff like cleaners you can prove their claims with science so they need to scrutnize I guess


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#38
well it can't get rid of 100% of germs because new bacteria is born every day.

if something said it kills 85% of germs is there gonna be a list on the back? because if germs from raw meat fall in the other 15% that it can't clean, you're pretty screwed.
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#39
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Then how the hell can you claim that it's a lie? You have don't have one shred of scientific data to back up your retarded statement.

Exactly. The TS has no logical reason to doubt the claims of the products, but for some reason he does.
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