Page 1 of 2
#1
I accidentally put this in the guitar forum before. I deleted that thread already though

anyways,
I got this guitar a long time ago from a buddy of mine in my metal years.



It's an Epiphone goth flying V as you can see, no neck pup, and a dimebucker.

The thread on one of the holes is missing (it fell out).

But anyways, I have the bridge for it (no hardware though) but if possible I would like to make it hardtail.

And also I need pickups. Badly. I don't have a budget but I'm creating one to get this together. I would like to not spend anymore thatn 250 USD though. This is at the most, I would like to spend less.

Colorful pickups are a plus, not required though because it's not that important. I need something for high gain (good for the br00t4ls) for the bridge, if possible it'd be great if it had good cleans too, I would love to eliminate the other pickup. But if not I need a good clean bridge.

Obviously I play ska, but I also play hardcore punk and that's what this guitar would be used for.

the bridge installed is a floyd rose II if I'm not mistaken.
Peavey 6505+
Fender Hot Rod Deville 410
Fender Telecaster Blacktop
Gretsch G5120
#2
well i guess i was in the midst of replying when that one got closed
so here is what i say

ok as for making it a hard tail... it is impossible.... without a TON of work and money....though for like 60 bucks you can buy what is called a tremno...or something like that maybe tremnolono i dunno either way it will lock a floating bridge...problem solved you have a hard tail.... next as for the pickups.... I think passive EMGs would look great in that guitar.... if you are looking for solid cleans....you shouldnt use actives. and that should all equal around 250.... or you could sell that for 100 bucks...and then buy a decent guitar for 350... perhaps an ESP EX-260.... has everything you requested
Total Failure

If every dream is a wish, then to dream of zombies is to wish for an appetite without responsibility
#3
Well the reason I want to keep this guitar is it's already been abused, and I already have two guitars I baby like crazy, so i just want this so I can throw it around and not worry about it.

As for ESP, it's not exactly my favorite brand. I wasn't considering active pups anyways, and I've heard of the tremlono or whatever, But i thought it was for trems like strats have. Thank you for the suggestions though
Peavey 6505+
Fender Hot Rod Deville 410
Fender Telecaster Blacktop
Gretsch G5120
#4
no.. you can use it on floyd roses as well....
and for active pickups....

Active pickups have an extremely high output, it is generally difficult to get a clear, even clean sound when using EMG pickups, because even the slightest amount of breakup in the amp will be pushed. As a result, only the cleanest of amps can get a true clean sound
Total Failure

If every dream is a wish, then to dream of zombies is to wish for an appetite without responsibility
#5
^Yepp!

I don't know why that guy thinks it will take a lot of time and money or whatever to make it a hardtail.

You need 2 or 3 blocks of wood, and a refinish. Not so hard.
Enjoi <--- Friend me
Quote by Scowmoo
Otter, you're my new god.
#6
Yeah I know about actives
I have like the cleanest of all amps too. I just wasn't really considering getting actives. I don't wanna cut out a hole for them.
Peavey 6505+
Fender Hot Rod Deville 410
Fender Telecaster Blacktop
Gretsch G5120
#7
Your active pups will polish off a good amount of your 250... but the tremolno will fix your floyd rose problems, that or you can just block it off.

but as far as i can tell, that doesn't look like a Goth V... There are fret markers on that, and it doesn't have the Roman Numeral XII on the 12th fret.

like this one (it's huge, i'll just link it)
http://namm.harmony-central.com/SNAMM02/Content/Epiphone/PR/Goth-V-large.jpg
------

Shwiggity.
#8
^ Yeah, different pickguard and jack location as well.
Enjoi <--- Friend me
Quote by Scowmoo
Otter, you're my new god.
#9
Yeah, I'm figuring it's a really old version.

And I don't want active pickups guys! :P

can I get some exact recommendations for pickups though. Passive please. Since you can't tryout pickups I'm at a loss and need to go on word of mouth
Peavey 6505+
Fender Hot Rod Deville 410
Fender Telecaster Blacktop
Gretsch G5120
Last edited by l3p4rd at Oct 18, 2008,
#10
EMG HZ series are passive...very nice
Total Failure

If every dream is a wish, then to dream of zombies is to wish for an appetite without responsibility
#11
Quote by Slovak_Ghost
EMG HZ series are passive...very nice

No, they're not. They have the cons and none of the pros of the active versions.

If you want to go orthodox, get a Seymour Duncan JB for the bridge and either a '59 or a Jazz for the neck. If you want to innovate a little more (and assuming your in the UK from the flag in that picture), check Swineshead pickups. There's clips on their website if I'm not mistaken.

As for the bridge issue. If you could post some more pictures closer to the bridge, I'd appreciate it, 'cause it doesn't look like a Floyd Rose from here unless it's been taken appart.
Quote by primusfan
It wasn't mean, it was Portuguese.

Master Saruwatari of the Pit Samurai Pm theguitarist to join

Membro do clube Português do UG.
#13
Quote by zakkwyldefan79
l3p4rd what are you going to do with the Dimebucker?


hahahahah hopefully throw it in the trash
Total Failure

If every dream is a wish, then to dream of zombies is to wish for an appetite without responsibility
#15
Quote by jmag
If you want to innovate a little more (and assuming your in the UK from the flag in that picture), check Swineshead pickups. There's clips on their website if I'm not mistaken.
Seconding this. I recently got some Swinesheads for an LP copy, and they're fantastic. I've got another LP with Gibson BurstBuckers in (which cost twice what the Swinesheads do), and the Swinesheads beat the crap out of the Gibson pickups.

Plus the Swinesheads look much nicer (wood finishes!)


I got a combo of a neck Condor and a bridge Warthog, pretty much the core Swineshead set, kind of the equivilent of the Seymour Duncan 59/JB combo that is so propular. I used to think the BurstBuckers were great, but now... I think I'm going to have Swinesheads in all my guitars from now on. I really can't recommend them enough.
Yes, I know everything. No, I can't play worth a damn.
A child is trafficked and sold for sex slavery every 30 seconds. Support Love146.
#16
I'm not british I'm american, I just have that flag. I was thinking about doing the duncan combo you suggested, but I wanted to get more opinions.


And yeah, the dimebucker, it's going to be sold to some nub metalhead at my school.
Peavey 6505+
Fender Hot Rod Deville 410
Fender Telecaster Blacktop
Gretsch G5120
#17
get a hardtail floyd rose like Mike Thompson's ibanez if u dont want to be doing all that refinishing, also i suggest a DiMarzio D-Activator or X2N, they are wicked sick and come in heaps of colours. Theyll also match your Dimebucker in style
#18
if you sold the dimebucker you would get ta few bucks and then if your taking the floyd rose out, you may as well sell it, you could get around $200 or more for it. That will give you some more money for pickups.
As for pickups, may I recommend this
#19
Alright,

I'm looking at the
DP190 Air classic (neck)
D activator X (bridge)

Inputs?

and I also wanna color the pickguard some kind of obnoxious neon color, recomend me some paints and colors please?

I also need to know wtf F spaced is, because dimarzio seems to be the only one saying anything about it.
Peavey 6505+
Fender Hot Rod Deville 410
Fender Telecaster Blacktop
Gretsch G5120
#20
Quote by BucketHayden
get a hardtail floyd rose like Mike Thompson's ibanez if u dont want to be doing all that refinishing, also i suggest a DiMarzio D-Activator or X2N, they are wicked sick and come in heaps of colours. Theyll also match your Dimebucker in style


Mick Thompson doesn't use a Floyd Rose... it is a fixed edge bridge.....

its just a fixed bridge with fine tuners and a locking nut
Total Failure

If every dream is a wish, then to dream of zombies is to wish for an appetite without responsibility
#21
the floyd rose isn't that important, seems like more trouble than its worth, I'm just working on the pickups and I wanna change out the pots and such
Peavey 6505+
Fender Hot Rod Deville 410
Fender Telecaster Blacktop
Gretsch G5120
#22
Quote by l3p4rd
Alright,

I'm looking at the
DP190 Air classic (neck)
D activator X (bridge)

Inputs?

and I also wanna color the pickguard some kind of obnoxious neon color, recomend me some paints and colors please?

I also need to know wtf F spaced is, because dimarzio seems to be the only one saying anything about it.

Similar to the pickups I was about to suggest. F spacing is the width of the magnetic pole pieces on a pickup that suits tremolo systems, but you don't have to worry about that on the D-Activator X, which by the way is supposed to have AMAZING cleans, along with an insane distortion sound. And go with blocking the trem with a couple of blocks of wood, as previously suggested. It's cheap and easy
Then there's this band called Slice The Cake...

Bunch of faggots putting random riffs together and calling it "progressive" deathcore.
Stupid name.
Probably picked "for teh lulz"

Mod in UG's Official Gain Whores
#23
To better answer your question about F spacing. It is the width of the magnetic pole pieces on a pickup for tremolo systems. Seymour Duncan uses the term Trembucker or TB. The pole pieces are farther apart on these pickups. They also work for import versions of the Gibson style TOM bridge.
#24
Quote by Shinozoku
Similar to the pickups I was about to suggest. F spacing is the width of the magnetic pole pieces on a pickup that suits tremolo systems, but you don't have to worry about that on the D-Activator X, which by the way is supposed to have AMAZING cleans, along with an insane distortion sound. And go with blocking the trem with a couple of blocks of wood, as previously suggested. It's cheap and easy


thanks for this. I think I'm going to keep my trem after all though, because my dad always complains about me not having a floyd rose, and it's not that big of a deal anyways.

I think I might get the d activator and block out the other slot, and do the one pickup, one knob deal.

Simple is best in my opinion. So I'm going to start saving now, when I start working on it I'll put up pics.

But I got one more question, what would be the best paint to use on the pickguard?
Peavey 6505+
Fender Hot Rod Deville 410
Fender Telecaster Blacktop
Gretsch G5120
#25
^ Try just the D-Activator in the bridge first before you bock out the other hole and see if you want something else. You might enjoy something like a Humbucker from Hell in the neck, and then put the selector in the middle position for some alternate tones. Cuz with the D-Activator, you won't really get a LOT of different OD tones, as it was made for metal distortion, and pristine cleans.

And a word of advice if you're keeping the trem, get new saddle blocks for the nut if you didn't keep track of which ones were which when you took them off. Using the wrong blocks on the wrong strings will keep you from staying in tune as well. New blocks (which shouldn't cost more than $10-15) will do a lot better at keeping you in tune

Also, my friend used some regular spray paint on his pick guard. He just took some sandpaper to it first to give the paint something to stick to.
Then there's this band called Slice The Cake...

Bunch of faggots putting random riffs together and calling it "progressive" deathcore.
Stupid name.
Probably picked "for teh lulz"

Mod in UG's Official Gain Whores
#26
Quote by l3p4rd
But I got one more question, what would be the best paint to use on the pickguard?

I used Krylon Fusion spray paint on the pickguard on my Explorer. I put on several coats of paint and then put clear coat over it. It's been on there a year and still looks great.
#27
I coulden't find any of the krylon at home depot, is it an online only thing?
Peavey 6505+
Fender Hot Rod Deville 410
Fender Telecaster Blacktop
Gretsch G5120
#29
Walmart, homeless depot, anywhere really.
Any large mega store or home improvement should carry what you need.

I would suggest Duplicolor paint from a auto shop, myself.
Enjoi <--- Friend me
Quote by Scowmoo
Otter, you're my new god.
#30
okay so I'm getting the guitar's bridge setup again tomorrow, and then I'm going to order the pickup.

I got a few questions though.

1) I want new pots because idk what's in it right now, I know they were changed though, what should I get? I'm stuffing the tone knob into the control cavity and just pulling out the volume knob. I might be making the switch into a killswitch, idk yet though. I might just keep it clean and have just the volume.

2) i think i wanna get inlay stickers if they're any good. I'm looking at these http://inlaystickers.ocnk.net/product/174 anyone have any experience?
Peavey 6505+
Fender Hot Rod Deville 410
Fender Telecaster Blacktop
Gretsch G5120
#31
I found mine on ebay. The sellers ID is creative-cuts. They have alot of different ones to choose from. They will even make your own custom design. They cost $18.95 a set. You can barley feel them (if at all) when you play. The ones on my LTD have been on there almost a year and they still look great. I've had 2 sets on my Exporer. When I took the first set off they didn't leave any sticky stuff on the fret board. They are easy to put on, too. There's pics in my profile if you want to see them.
Last edited by zakkwyldefan79 at Oct 25, 2008,
#32
Do you know anything about the ones I linked? 20 bucks is a big price gap from 3.50 (the ones I linked)

Thanks for all your help btw.
Peavey 6505+
Fender Hot Rod Deville 410
Fender Telecaster Blacktop
Gretsch G5120
#35
Yeah I decided to scratch the hardtail thing though, I figured I might as well have a locking trem because I don't have one. And maybe my dad would get off my back about liking more classical guitars.
Peavey 6505+
Fender Hot Rod Deville 410
Fender Telecaster Blacktop
Gretsch G5120
#36
well do you know that with a tremolo you CAN'T CHANGE TUNINGS (unless if u wanna spend 20 minutes to re setup the trem every time u change the tuning)
best YouTube video ever

Quote by Crazymike100
Honesty is the best policy!

...Unless your trying to get a job. In which case, lie like you just got pulled over with a dead body and some shovels in the back seat.


Gear in Profile

Like NCIS
#37
This guitar worked before, and that's not true...
Peavey 6505+
Fender Hot Rod Deville 410
Fender Telecaster Blacktop
Gretsch G5120
#38
cheapest passive emgs are emg selects and they are like $20 and you can go to guitar project.com they have tutorial on turning a trem to hard tail which will be really cheap
#39
I have the money for everything and I have all my plans, I'll post pics when I go. I'm excited
Peavey 6505+
Fender Hot Rod Deville 410
Fender Telecaster Blacktop
Gretsch G5120
#40
omg, you're throwing your dimebucker away??
I claim that free pickup
where do you live, i'll come by and pick it up
i havn't read past first page, so i don't know if this claim has been made
Shred Head
All that theory my guitar teacher tries to drill into my head just gets buried under piles of porn and I never manage to apply any of it
Page 1 of 2