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#1
The story: Well i was surfing the web and decided take a look at some Thunderbirds on Gibson's website and I clicked Gibson's bass section and i see a new bass up and the first thing that went through my mind is "holy sh*t! Did they reissue the Grabber or the G3!!". I click on this new tab and guess what I see...


Go ahead and guess...


Don't know?


Another damn Thunderbird. And to make it even worse, ANOTHER Nikki Sixx Thunderbird. Click here to see the new thunderbird Now I was thinking "what--the--fu*k, this is NOT gonna sell well" If a bassist has enough money to buy the Gibson Nikki Sixx Thunderbird he is probably is gonna have enough common sense and bass knowledge to know their are better basses in that price range. To conclude, another epic fail from Gibson

Things to note: besides the cosmetics(which in my opinion look tacky) this has maple wings attached a mahogany and walnut neck. The regular tbird has mahogony wings. Is this gonna give some clarity to the sound? I doubt it. The new Nikki Sixx thunderbird also has less tonal variation than the regular Tbird because the Nikki Sixx one only has a volume and a tone knob. Meh, well at least it's a little cheper than the regular Thunderbird

Discuss

EDIT: Because Fitz is major Thunderbird hater, I can't wait to hear Fitz's response to this thread

EDIT 2: Ironically enough I sent Gibson an email about a week ago letting them know the flaws of the thunderbird and suggested the use of different woods and now, a week later, Gibson comes out with this new Nikki Sixx. lol
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#2
I wanted an EB-0 before I knew anything about basses.

Now I scold my ignorance.
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#5
You know I thought you were full of it Ben, until I read this in an interview on Bassplayer.com

What’s your main bass at the moment?
I helped designed a Gibson Shavo Signature bass with a J-style neck and a ’76 Thunderbird-style body made of oak. Ernie Ball has been dipping my strings in gold, which is a soft metal that gives me a smoother tone. I usually use the B, A, D, and G strings of a 5-string set and tune down to CGCF.

All I can say oh dear god..what will Gibson do next?
#6
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If Shavo would ever get a signature, his might actually sound decent because of the solid oak(isn't oak a bright sounding wood like maple or is it more like mahogany?) body.
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#7
To be completely honest, this is the most tasteful Tbird I've seen yet. If it weren't for that Nikki Sixx on the pickguard I actually wouldn't mind owning it, if I had to own a Thunderbird.

As far as the Shavo sig.... Hell yeah! Can't wait to see what that oak sounds like.
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#8
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You know I thought you were full of it Ben, until I read this in an interview on Bassplayer.com

What’s your main bass at the moment?
I helped designed a Gibson Shavo Signature bass with a J-style neck and a ’76 Thunderbird-style body made of oak. Ernie Ball has been dipping my strings in gold, which is a soft metal that gives me a smoother tone. I usually use the B, A, D, and G strings of a 5-string set and tune down to CGCF.

All I can say oh dear god..what will Gibson do next?


I have the magazine with that interview (alongside a full transcription for Virtual Insanity).

We should give Shavo more credit- he detailed how he uses a 6 string Larrivee fretless, tuning the middle strings FCGC and the outer strings to the frequency of the kick drum, laying the bass like a lapsteel guitar, and using all his hand digits to tap the strings, using the oiuter strings to match the kick drum when he wants. We all thought he was a plectrum guy, but that's pretty outside the box.
#9
Quote by Deliriumbassist
I have the magazine with that interview (alongside a full transcription for Virtual Insanity).

We should give Shavo more credit- he detailed how he uses a 6 string Larrivee fretless, tuning the middle strings FCGC and the outer strings to the frequency of the kick drum, laying the bass like a lapsteel guitar, and using all his hand digits to tap the strings, using the oiuter strings to match the kick drum when he wants. We all thought he was a plectrum guy, but that's pretty outside the box.
Wow that's pretty cool. I now actually have some respect for Shavo!
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#10
Quote by Deliriumbassist
maple'll make it sound nicer methinks. And at least it has a tone knob unlike the other Nikki Sixx.

I just can't wait for Shavo's sig to come out- a fretless 5 string TBird made of oak, and EB strings dipped in gold I kid you not.


Disregarding the strings for a second, that sounds incredibly sexy. What does oak sound like?
Now, the strings. I'm guessing they sound amazing and cost a fortune. Still... gold? Good grief. On the other hand, they probably last a good while...
EDIT: ^^Forget outside the box, that's utterly f*cking brilliant.
#11
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To be completely honest, this is the most tasteful Tbird I've seen yet. If it weren't for that Nikki Sixx on the pickguard I actually wouldn't mind owning it, if I had to own a Thunderbird.

As far as the Shavo sig.... Hell yeah! Can't wait to see what that oak sounds like.
Not to point out the obvious, but you could always take five minutes with a screwdriver and replace the pickguard with another one I too am wondering what an oak thunderbird would sound like.
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#14
Quote by Nightfyre

Now, the strings. I'm guessing they sound amazing and cost a fortune. Still... gold? Good grief. On the other hand, they probably last a good while...


Last a while? Gold is extremely malleable- the fact it's very soft is what makes it great to use as jewellery. Easy to shape and form.
#15
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why chopsticks as the fret inlays? why?
I don't like the inlays myself, but they're supposed to be X's.
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Last a while? Gold is extremely malleable- the fact it's very soft is what makes it great to use as jewellery. Easy to shape and form.

Gold doesn't corrode. Those strings would probably sound the same as the day you put them on (though you'd still want to rub them down to remove oils) until (if) the gold wore off. Leaf wears off over time, not sure if the gold on these would wear off since it's dipped. If it lasts, it would be the last pair of strings you'd ever need unless you snapped a string. It's malleable, yes - the most malleable and ductile metal in existence, iirc. But strings dipped in gold wouldn't have that much gold on them - it would be like the coating on Elixer strings, except awesome.
#18
I like the finish on that thunderbird.

"Ledgendary bassist Nikki Sixx is known as much for his superior playing ability as he is as he for his love of Thunderbird bass guitar."

Lol.

Yep, you know "The Greats". Victor Wooten, Marcus Miller, Nikki Sixx, Les Claypool, Geddy Lee.
#19
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I'd say the gold would wear off or wear down easier than normal steel. Rub gold against steel, and steel wins every time. It would be like the coating on Elixirs- and it'll erode to the steel winding like them as well.

Blast, I didn't think of that. On the other hand, the only place it would wear off is where the strings hit the frets... and who knows, maybe the malleability of the gold would just make it dent microscopically and so you never really notice. Gold doesn't really tear, so maybe... I dunno, metalwork isn't a topic I'm very familiar with. I can hope though... that would be so cool.
#20
a T-bird that actually looks really cool.

I'm still not buying it, but I guess Sixx can make a nice looking bass.
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#21
I love the finish. The Shavo sig sounds awesome as well.
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#22
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Forget outside the box, that's utterly f*cking brilliant.


It is. I just went from having a level of respect for him somewhere in between Pete Wentz and Duff McKagen (who is not a bad bassist, mind you, but still not that good) to actually respecting the guy. Maybe he isn't a master of technique, or much of a crazy soloer, but damn, that's amazing
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#23
Gold strings aren't new, John Entwistle played gold plated strings when he left Rotosound.

Personally I think that T-bird looks nice, aside from the pickguard and the inlays. The pickguard can be swapped, and the inlays look reasonable without the pickguard,. so overall it looks like a nice bass.

But for 2.5k, you can do better. Easily custom territory there.
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Quote by Deliriumbassist
maple'll make it sound nicer methinks. And at least it has a tone knob unlike the other Nikki Sixx.

I just can't wait for Shavo's sig to come out- a fretless 5 string TBird made of oak, and EB strings dipped in gold I kid you not.


Already knew all this - Old news ftw!

Oh, and for everyone else - Warwick are bringing out a Stuart Zender Sig Streamer at some point in the future - 2 models. One super expensive for the professionals, and a cheaper version for losers.

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#25
i had gold strings and for the record they do die, it takes a while but they die and they die badly
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#26
so what is the best manufacturer of thunderbirds then? i thought gibson was.
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#27
spector made a butt ugly tbird that was actually really good.

also tokai make the best gibson tbird, it's set neck, all mahogany like a gibson but it doesn't suffer from the 3 point bridge of death problem and the QC on tokais is top notch. If i wanted a gibson i'd buy a tokai

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sorry my bad it's alder and maple like the epi model so clearly it will sound brighter and more defined than the gibson aswell
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#28
Tokai's have been better than Gibson across the board for a number of years now- hell, even when I was back in year 11 over one Olympiad ago, a shop I did work experience in (btw, guitar store jobs are horribly boring and tedious) had Tokai and Gibson. Every Tokai Les Paul blew the Gibson ones out of the water.
#29
I've played the Tokai T-Bird and it really is so much better than the Gibson, it's a decent sounding bass that's worth the asking price.
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#30
yeah max there was a tokai tbird in my local shop ages ago back when i was looking for my second bass, i narrowed it down to the tokai tbird, a tokai les paul bass and a maverick b2, i picked the maverick and really regret passing up the tbird. that being said i also regret selling the maverick
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#32
looks good though..
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#34
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no opti grab?
What confuses me is that in Gibson's description it mentions that the bass has the opti-grab, but in reality it clearly isn't there
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Quote by Deliriumbassist
maple'll make it sound nicer methinks. And at least it has a tone knob unlike the other Nikki Sixx.

I just can't wait for Shavo's sig to come out- a fretless 5 string TBird made of oak, and EB strings dipped in gold I kid you not.

If you visit some ancient buildings in the UK and see the old Oak tables the first thing that you notice are the cracks that have appeared; but then I don't suppose these Basses will last 600 years or so.
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If you visit some ancient buildings in the UK and see the old Oak tables the first thing that you notice are the cracks that have appeared; but then I don't suppose these Basses will last 600 years or so.


With advances in wood preparation techniques and woodcare, maybe currently made oak tables won't crack in 600 years time.
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Quote by Deliriumbassist
With advances in wood preparation techniques and woodcare, maybe currently made oak tables won't crack in 600 years time.

Only joking a bit tongue in the cheek.
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#39
It's actually the nicest looking T-Bird I've ever seen - very modern looking. That's like talking about a hip new cancer, but I don't mind the look. Maple won't hurt, that's for sure. And Ben was right - the fact that this bass has knobs is mind-blowing. Before, there was just a killswitch. I wish the man himself had one.

What I do love, however, is how they mentioned the OptiGrab in the description, but didn't have it on the bass in the photo.

I guess that OptiGrab is to counter the neck dive issues that are LIES and MADE UP BY ULTIMATE-GUITAR (as per Only Thunderbird Thread).

EDIT: Love the fact that they didn't bother putting fret inlays past the 12th - like anybody would need them anyway! And forget the oak T-Bird - I can't wait till his fretless 6-string that he plays lapstyle, tuning the B and C strings to the frequency of a kick drum (!?!?!?!??!). Gotta love tuning a string to something atonal.
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#40
I think the whole "I hate Gibson Thunderbirds" shtick on this bass forum is mostly bullshit, by people with thier heads up their asses. Sure, some people don't like them based on a personal taste, but shit, I'm sure most people here have never even touched an actual Gibson version, let alone played one. Yeah, the Epiphones are shit, just like the Squires are shit versions of Fenders, but those are just starter instruments, what do you expect?

I was lucky enough to acquire a Gibson T bird Bass some time ago. Not only does it look damn sexy and play like sex, but i think it stands up to any Fender I've played.


Here's a question, if T birds are so shit like everyone says they are then why does Gibson spend the money on mass producing them? They discountiued the Grabber and Ripper because they were failure basses, so why not the T bird aswell? Just a thought.

C'mon, stop these retard band wagon threads.
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