#1
This is basically just gonna be a rant, so if you have a problem with opinions then read a different thread.

Anyway, I have not yet watched "Religulous" (sp?), but I recently read an interview with its creator (I want to say his name is Bill Maher but I'm not sure) where he said that religion could lead to the end of the world. I've heard this a million times, that people twist religion and the word of god to mean whatever they want it to in the interest of manipulating the masses into doing their will, etc etc... It's a very common view point held by many atheists that without religion, the world would be a more peaceful place with fewer things to fight about.

I just don't understand. I'm an atheist, and I'm not denying that people sometimes do use religion as a tool to get things done (look at Osama Bin Laden), but I don't see how you can blame religion itself for this!

I mean, manipulating people and tricking others into helping your cause (whether it be getting more money, fighting a war, getting yourself into a position of power) has been around since the dawn of time! Religion isn't the only tool out there that has the power to manipulate its followers and if the world was made up of atheists, manipulation and corruption would not stop.

What I'm trying to say overall is that I'm confused as to all of the criticism aimed at religion itself when obviously human nature is to blame. Sorry if any of this has been hard to follow, if you have any questions feel free to ask. Otherwise I'm hoping this will become a sort of discussion. Thanks for reading anyways
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#2
religion=fail

end of story
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#3
you know there is a whole religion thread,right?

you didn't?

there is.go there.
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#5
Think of this analogy:
Guns don't shoot people.
People shoot people.
Without guns, people couldn't shoot people.
Therefore, to stop people shooting each other, we have but to remove guns.
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#7
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That sums up my opinion
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Bill Maher doesn't know what hes talking about
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Have you seen that episode of South Park were Cartman's in the future?
That sums up my opinion



This.
#10
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Think of this analogy:
Guns don't shoot people.
People shoot people.
Without guns, people couldn't shoot people.
Therefore, to stop people shooting each other, we have but to remove guns.

Yes, without guns people couldn't shoot people, but do you think that would stop them from harming or killing their fellow man?
Obviously they'd find new ways. England has some strict gun laws, but I've heard knife crime is on the rise.
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Quote by Ichimaru
Think of this analogy:
Guns don't shoot people.
People shoot people.
Without guns, people couldn't shoot people.
Therefore, to stop people shooting each other, we have but to remove guns.


Yeah but then people will use swords and sticks, take away that and they will beat eachother with their bare hands until one of them is dead.

If religion didn't exist people would still fight for land, power, honour, money, etc.
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Quote by Ichimaru
Think of this analogy:
Guns don't shoot people.
People shoot people.
Without guns, people couldn't shoot people.
Therefore, to stop people shooting each other, we have but to remove guns.

hhmm thats a valid point, but i prefer this analogy
Guns dont kill people rappers do,
Ask any politican and they'll tell you its true,
Its a fact music makes you violent,
Like Michael Jackson telling little Timmy to be silent,
You don't believe me? Heres my hype,
Offer me the record and i'll show you the type,
Of criminal this rap shit is breedin,
Its a fact that MC Hammer left me bleedin,
Vanilla Ice made my mother say '****',
If I stuck with UB40 then I woulda been in luck,
But I didn't I got it wrong,
Cypress ****ing Hill told me to make a ****ing bong,
So I started, I bought another tape,
The Power by Snap made my **** and balls ache,
So remember kids from the head double tap,
Guns don't kill people its just rap!
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#13
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Have you seen that episode of South Park were Cartman's in the future?
That sums up my opinion

Haha that's basically what I was getting at actually.
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#14
Quote by Ichimaru
Think of this analogy:
Guns don't shoot people.
People shoot people.
Without guns, people couldn't shoot people.
Therefore, to stop people shooting each other, we have but to remove guns.


But then the people would just stab each other.
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Yes, without guns people couldn't shoot people, but do you think that would stop them from harming or killing their fellow man?
Obviously they'd find new ways. England has some strict gun laws, but I've heard knife crime is on the rise.



What do you do when someone has a knife to you?

-Kick him/her SQUARE IN THA NUTS!

-Knife Falls.

-Stab the robber with said knife.
#16
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religion=fail

end of story


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#17
There is a dedicated religion thread, look in 'forbidden threads' (the big sticky at the top of the forum) and post this in there.
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