#1
I'm writing a paper comparing and contrasting Elizabeth Proctor and Abigail from Arthur Miller's The Crucible.

For those of you have read or seen the play, can you name any historical figures taht could possibly parallel the two women from the play?
I really want to show my teacher that I know my stuff etc, etc, but I can't seem to find any.

So, thanks in advance guys!
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Isn't the crucible about McCarthyism? Like it's a parable as to McCarthyism in mid 1900's America. It compares it to the Salem Witch Hunts.

I've never read it, but I remember a few talks I had with teachers about it.
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I'm in New Jersey and we just finished reading it, didn't know other states had the same curriculum. One kid in class compared Abigail to Hitler, seems to make sense.
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Isn't the crucible about McCarthyism? Like it's a parable as to McCarthyism in mid 1900's America. It compares it to the Salem Witch Hunts.

I've never read it, but I remember a few talks I had with teachers about it.

Correct, and I'd like to find key people during the McCarthiestic? phase and use it in my paper.

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I'm in New Jersey and we just finished reading it, didn't know other states had the same curriculum. One kid in class compared Abigail to Hitler, seems to make sense.

Could work
But I'm looking for people in ^era
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I would think it would be obvious. Abigail is the girl who thinks she's in love and manipulates people to get her way. Elizabeth would be one of the good guys throughout but she has such doubt in her husband that she won't trust him. Unlike Abigail she tries to own up to her sins and take the blame, sparing John's name. Instead she lies, lots of people die.
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#7
I'm guessing you're a Junior in English 3? We're reading it, too.

Uhh... Well, Elizabeth only ever lied in her life to save her husband, but Abigail lied to everyone to save her ass and weed out some people she didn't like. They're kind of at opposite ends of the spectrum, so work with that.

The Hitler thing does make sense, I'll say. I don't know who really parallels with Elizabeth, though.
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I would think it would be obvious. Abigail is the girl who thinks she's in love and manipulates people to get her way. Elizabeth would be one of the good guys throughout but she has such doubt in her husband that she won't trust him. Unlike Abigail she tries to own up to her sins and take the blame, sparing John's name. Instead she lies, lots of people die.

I guess that's going to have to be as specific as I'll get.
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yep, had to read it last year in TN...right now i cant really remember, but if i remember correctly, elizabeth proctor was like the best person in the play(like good person) and abigail was the person that seems like the perfect child, but in reality was a little devil. so they were like polar opposites, good and bad. also if i remember correctly abigail fled making her extrememly irresponsible, and elizabeth ends up dying because she would not confess she was a witch. (which she wasnt)

i dont know if that part was true, i think i had it confused with her not telling about her husband, i cant remember if elizabeth was killed or not... someone can correct me, or tell me if im right im sure!
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#11
Right, but are there any people in the 1950s that can easily represent Abby and Lizzy?
^^Didn't notice that part in the Wiki article, thanks
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it compares the Salem Witch Trials to an identical situation dealing with communism, but i'm trying to remember what the name of that organization was which led the witch hunt. it's easy to see Arthur Miller and John Proctor in the same spot, though Miller wasn't held on trial until after the play had been written.

as for the women, i can't think of anything which hasn't been said.
#13
it's about McCarthyism; just give it a search and you'll see the similarities.
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