Poll: Number of fingers
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#2
Playing it up and down, i usually play with my index,and ring. Pinky for the low E on the lower frets. I can alternate though so its cool.

Do you mean 4 fingers though? or are you saying 1,2,3,4 as the different fingers?
#6
Minor pentatonic only takes three fingers if you are using correct technique, if you don't believe me take a look.
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#8
I'd like to clarify, I was talking about the basic shape, I know there are instances where you use all four fingers, but frankly most users on here use basic shapes, so that's what I'm talking about.

To Cowboy, I know, but if you look at the basic shape, you never use your middle finger.
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#9
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i dont use the pentatonic scale, straight up major and minor ftw

Then you don't understand what the pentatonic scales are... The pentatonic notes are the most stable notes of the major and minor scales... The two non-pentatonic notes are only applicable in certain situations, sort of... I'm not sure how to explain it, but you really need to know which notes are pentatonic to be able to write a decent song or solo.
#10
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^Any three-fret-gap is properly played using your pinky and your index finger.


Really high up on the neck, it's sometimes more practical to use index-ring.
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#11
Quote by DaddyTwoFoot
Really high up on the neck, it's sometimes more practical to use index-ring.

True. I do it all the time

I'm just speaking in terms of "proper" technique and in general.
#12
Quote by iimjpii
Then you don't understand what the pentatonic scales are... The pentatonic notes are the most stable notes of the major and minor scales... The two non-pentatonic notes are only applicable in certain situations, sort of... I'm not sure how to explain it, but you really need to know which notes are pentatonic to be able to write a decent song or solo.


huh, apparently i dont know what im talkin bout lol, i think of pentatonic as that first scale you learn you know where its two notes per string? (obviously in the shape not in general)
#13
Pentatonic scales are one of the most versatile sets out there. Metal, blues, rock, jazz, you name it can be done.

Just takes a little ingenuity.

I use index, ring, and pinky for the various inversions. I find I only use my middle when I'm doing the blues scale or the modes.
#14
I think you're thinking of the A Pentatonic Minor in it's most basic form.

Probably wrong though, my theory sucks.
Last edited by Orbit91 at Oct 22, 2008,
#15
I doubt anybody here can play the 'pentatonis' scale...I know I can't.
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#16
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I doubt anybody here can play the 'pentatonis' scale...I know I can't.

Don't be a dick =/
#17
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Agreed; he's been *reported.*

Regarding the topic, I alternate between using my index and ring finger and using all but my middle.
Last edited by bangoodcharlote at Oct 22, 2008,
#18
There aren't "easy" and "hard" scales. They are just creative tools that offer different sounds. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a freaking dumbass.
#19
^ Sorry, the first thing I thought I saw when I looked at this thread was 'penis'...I couldn't help but comment.

To contribute, I guess it'd depend on the lick? Everyone should learn to use 4, though.
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#20
Well I've answered three fingers - because that's all I have!
Admittedly, when I had all my fingers, I used to mainly use the 1st, 3rd and 4th for minor pentatonic scales, occasionally using the 2nd for the good old flattened fifth.
#21
Quote by Orbit91
I think you're thinking of the A Pentatonic Minor in it's most basic form.

Probably wrong though, my theory sucks.


Well, the first inversion of the pentatonic minor scale doesn't just limit itself to A. I typically prefer F# because I think it sounds better for blues work. It goes a bit like this though:

E |5--8
B |5--8
G |5-7
D |5-7
A |5-7
E |5--8

ACDEG, You're just getting rid of the second and sixth degree of the Aeolian scale. You don't get any odd harmonic overtones when playing over say a jazz progression relying heavily on altered and extended chord voicings. Not to mention the bends get nice and bluesy.

The other inversions just start on the second note of the scale. CDEGA, and so on and so forth. Fun scale though.
#22
Which fingers I use depends on the pattern, the position, and the situation. I don't lock myself into any idealistic way of playing. I do what makes the most sense to me for any particular situation.

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^Any three-fret-gap is properly played using your pinky and your index finger.


It really depends on the situation. There are times when you may want to use the index and third finger instead so that your pinky is free. What is "proper" is really a matter of context, and in some cases personal opinion.

I agree though that is a "general" rule, using one finger per fret is consistent and effective.
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Last edited by GuitarMunky at Oct 22, 2008,
#23
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Which fingers I use depends on the pattern, the position, and the situation. I don't lock myself into any idealistic way of playing. I do what makes the most sense to me for any particular situation.
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#24
As a bassist, I mainly use the 3 finger method. That is, you use your ring and pinky as one finger. But I use four high on the neck and for minor stuff.
#25
Quote by iimjpii
Then you don't understand what the pentatonic scales are... The pentatonic notes are the most stable notes of the major and minor scales... The two non-pentatonic notes are only applicable in certain situations, sort of... I'm not sure how to explain it, but you really need to know which notes are pentatonic to be able to write a decent song or solo.


You most certainly do not "need to know which notes are pentatonic" to be able to write decent music. Either the pentatonic scale is a distinct scale, or it isn't. If it isn't, then the very concept of a "pentatonic scale" is ridiculous, because it's simply a more limited version of the diatonic scale. If it is, then it's entirely possible to avoid its use (as I do).
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#26
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You most certainly do not "need to know which notes are pentatonic" to be able to write decent music. Either the pentatonic scale is a distinct scale, or it isn't. If it isn't, then the very concept of a "pentatonic scale" is ridiculous, because it's simply a more limited version of the diatonic scale. If it is, then it's entirely possible to avoid its use (as I do).


Well, as you know it certainly is a distinct scale with a distinct sound. I agree with you though that if you don't know the pentatonic scale, you can still write decent music. Personally I like the way it sounds, and choose to have it in my palette.
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Last edited by GuitarMunky at Oct 22, 2008,
#27
Quote by GuitarMunky
Well as you know it certainly is a distinct scale with a distinct sound. I agree though that if you don't know the pentatonic scale, you can still write decent music. Personally I like the way it sounds, and choose to have it in my palette.


Many people do, but the notion that just because he chooses not to use it he must not know what it is, or that you need to know what it is to write decent music, is completely ridiculous and unfounded.
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#28
Quote by ruiner999
Well, the first inversion of the pentatonic minor scale doesn't just limit itself to A. I typically prefer F# because I think it sounds better for blues work. It goes a bit like this though:

E |5--8
B |5--8
G |5-7
D |5-7
A |5-7
E |5--8

ACDEG, You're just getting rid of the second and sixth degree of the Aeolian scale. You don't get any odd harmonic overtones when playing over say a jazz progression relying heavily on altered and extended chord voicings. Not to mention the bends get nice and bluesy.

The other inversions just start on the second note of the scale. CDEGA, and so on and so forth. Fun scale though.

That's pretty much what I play
#29
i normally use 2 when JUST playing the pentatonic, but when playing sextatonic blues adaptation (added diminished 5th), i'd use my middle finger, as apposed to just index/ring.
BUT i usually tend to stay away from going up/down the ENTIRE pentatonic scale, because that's old and annoying, so maybe i'd go up/down an octave as just a small part of a solo, but then put in something more my staalllllll (proggy, like octatonic, or harm minor or something, much. much. more complicated.)
#30
Quote by Archeo Avis
Many people do, but the notion that just because he chooses not to use it he must not know what it is, or that you need to know what it is to write decent music, is completely ridiculous and unfounded.



yup, I was agreeing with you on that point.
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#31
I play the basic minor pentatonic pattern, but sometimes I slide up the next note on the scale, and I usually slide up a diminished arpeggio just for kicks, some tension, perhaps?
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#32
5 fingers ftw, cause I'm a horrible mutant

4 fingers if you're pretensious

3 fingers if god accidentally gave you a pinky finger (what a useless thing)

2 fingers if you're a roma who's hand got burnt and can shred faster than anyone today.

1 finger if you've accidentally a whole bottle of viagra

Take your pick
#33
1st 3rd an 4th finger is the proper fingers for the tonic position. the scale can be done in several position and fingerings, generally use 1 finger per fret.
#34
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4 depending on the situation
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#35
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Word of the day mike?
I saw arch using it heaps, I thought I might try to start a new fad. Pity we're spelling it wrong: pretentious