Poll: Are you for or against walmart
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93 43%
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Voters: 217.
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#1
In my economics class, we are discussing how walmart affects our economy, and what it does for communities. Some view this mega store giant as a great positive, and others a negative.

Facts about Walmart:
-It has the second largest computer system in the world(second to NASA)
-It contibutes a 2% to America's GNP (that is huge for one company)
-it is 5x larger than its biggest competitor, Home Depot


I thought that this would be a cool thing for the pit to discuss. All opinions welcome
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#2
evil cuz they went overboard on the release of the ACDC cd.

good because now i get to go to the mens section and play rockband.

Or the electronics section to play guitar hero.
#3
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In my economics class, we are discussing how walmart affects our economy, and what it does for communities. Some view this mega store giant as a great positive, and others a negative.

Facts about Walmart:
-It has the second largest computer system in the world(second to NASA)
-It contibutes a 2% to America's GNP (that is huge for one company)
-it is 5x larger than its biggest competitor, Home Depot


I thought that this would be a cool thing for the pit to discuss. All opinions welcome

Obvious positive!
It's not like people hate low prices anyway
#4
Theres nothing to suggest it's evil, just that it's run by very clever businessmen.
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#5
Bad because they don't allow people to join a union, a basic employment right and the deprivation of this right affects employment conditions for everyone.
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#6
I hate low prices!


edit: It also amuses me that the poll asks if we are for or against Wal-Mart and the choices are "Good" and "Bad"
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#7
the negative side is that its becoming a natural monopoly and that it drives competition out of business.
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#8
they might run small businesses out of town, they may pay their workers terribly, and they may have some slightly shady business practices, but they have pretty damn good prices.


so i dont mind them.
#10
it's evil.

i'm poor.

you see my dilemma?
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#11
The evil is created by the people who allow it to become a conglomerate powerhouse, as it is.

The consumer.

So no, Walmart isn't good or evil. It's simply what customers allow it to be.
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#13
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Bad for competition, good for consumers.

Bad for workers.
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#15
as long as they keep their low prices, i have no problem with them.
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#16
I personally love Wal-Mart =]


Although.. working as a stock/carry out at a small family grocery store, I can't imagine unloading the truck at walmart =S
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#17
Wal-Mart is good because it's obvious that they're products are really cheap.

But they are also bad because they are putting all of the family owned business out of business.

Good because they also have nearly anything you could want there.

But also bad cause they have no real competition.
#18
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Bad for workers.

They can choose to work somewhere else, it's not like they give their employees really bad conditions anyways. There is a health insurance plan and stock shares and whatnot for full-time employees.
#21
they could be killing babies, and no one would care, as long as they can save 3 bucks on toilet paper...
#22
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Wal-Mart blows. I shop at Fred Meyer.

This guy wins because he's got Byakuya in his avatar.

And also becuase Fred Meyer is, in fact, better than Walmart.

And I don't care about statistics, so don't post them.

If Dave Mustaine says GHS is better "Becuase I said so"

Then I say Fred Meyer is better too.

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#23
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they could be killing babies, and no one would care, as long as they can save 3 bucks on toilet paper...
They probably do...

It's evil.

They treat their workers like shit and don't give them benefits, they sell sweatshop goods, shut down small businesses, and the list goes on and on.

I'd much rather pay more for good service, and to support mom and pop.

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#24
They aren't good. In Jonquière, near my hometown, Wal-Mart closed their store there because the employees wanted to make a union there. They all lost their jobs.

I will never set a foot there.
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#25
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They can choose to work somewhere else, it's not like they give their employees really bad conditions anyways. There is a health insurance plan and stock shares and whatnot for full-time employees.
First of all in minimum wage jobs such as Wal Mart the employees seldom have any other viable option.

Secondly i don;t just mean the workers working for them, I mean workers everywhere. Any company that refuses to allow workers to organise (ignoring the fact that the employers themselves are organised) damages the rights of workers everywhere, rights won through the sweat blood and tears of workers everywhere.
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#26
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they could be killing babies, and no one would care, as long as they can save 3 bucks on toilet paper...



claudio sanchez can cut the throats of babies but walmart cant?
#27
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First of all in minimum wage jobs such as Wal Mart the employees seldom have any other viable option.

Secondly i don;t just mean the workers working for them, I mean workers everywhere. Any company that refuses to allow workers to organise (ignoring the fact that the employers themselves are organised) damages the rights of workers everywhere, rights won through the sweat blood and tears of workers everywhere.

And what rights are these?

By the way, Wal-Mart is a business company not a charity; no businesses are required to let their employees unionize.
#28
Yeah Wallmart are just as alright as any other big corporation, they provide cheap products, all kinds of them, they provide jobs . . . . . . what more do you want? I small businesses can't compete then tough shit get over it, should we eliminate competetion now?
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#29
Walmart = evil.


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#31
i like target better but they do have low prices and thats enought for me even if there's issues with competition their workers and union.
#33
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as long as they keep their low prices, i have no problem with them.


Ignorance.
#34
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Those praising Walmart clearly never saw the South Park episode


or too ignorant to know of the benefits of unionisation... but i do think britain took it a bit too far with the unions in the 80s pahaha but thatcher did need a slap
#36
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Good because they don't want their workers to join an union.
What?

Unions are a good thing.
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#38
they engage in strongarm union busting, that by itself is enogh for me to consider them bad.
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#39
^

I always have respect for forward thinking Americans who think like that, particularly as your union history is a bit more shady than ours.


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And what rights are these?

Think of any employment right (the right not to be dismissed unfairly, the right to as safe a workplace as possible). They were all put in place and are maintained by the trade union movement. if that movement disappears then so will those rights as the employers unions will steadily erode them.
Some examples, from the top of my head, are:
39 Hour working week
Holidays
Minimum wage
Unfair dismissals laws
Equality of employment laws
Health and Safety
Terms and conditions of employment
Pension scheme
overtime pay
yearly pay rises

There is also the fact that being in a union means that you can't be bullied by your employer. If you're not in a union and your employer doesn't pay you or dismisses you unfairly then you have no recourse. Sure, you can hire a lawyer but so can he, and he has the advantage of having money. If you're in a union you will have an official who will act as your lawyer, and will be far better at employment legislation than any lawyer (my father has never lost a case and has outsmarted the best barristers in the country. he has no legal training, he just does this specific area of the law all the time so he knows everything about it). Employers are much less likely to push you around if your in a union.

By the way, Wal-Mart is a business company not a charity; no businesses are required to let their employees unionize.
I never said they were a charity. it is of no detriment to them to allow their workers to organise. If they play by the rules then they will have no problem. The only reason they could have is that they don't want to obey the laws.

By the way in many countries Employers ARE required to allow their employees to join a union.
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"Knowledge is in every country the surest basis of public happiness."
-George Washington
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#40
It's great! Who would I steal from if my local Wal-Mart wasn't around?
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