#1
for pop punk/punk, nice crunch, sexy distortion, and more than decent cleans?

similar sounding im looking for:

Angels & Airwaves (i like this soothing high pitched tangy sound, distortion yet not distortion?)
Blink 182 (the last album guitar tone sounds gorgeous)
3 Days Grace / 3 Doors down / Thrice (very thick sexy distortion solid, screaming)
metalica ( again distortion)
Decent cleans.


so basically a guitar that can go from some real disstortion to blink 182 type pop punk.

also another fact im worring about.
HSS = Light , Thin neck , easy to play wit on stage, fun
LP = heavy, thick neck

i wear my guitar kind of low.


so which should i get
#2
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#3
I don't think anyone can tell you which kind of guitar you prefer. It's all about your personal taste. Just go to a store and try them...then pick your favourite.

I guess there could be a case for the strat being slightly more versatile, but it only sounds like you want two sounds - a rock clean and a rock dist.

Good luck...
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#4
the epiphone matches the styles you mentioned, and all of those bands use guitars with humbuckers. i say epiphone
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#5
standard epiphone les paul with Gibson Dirtyfingers pickups put in
i have one and it sounds awesome
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I don't think anyone can tell you which kind of guitar you prefer. It's all about your personal taste. Just go to a store and try them...then pick your favourite.

I guess there could be a case for the strat being slightly more versatile, but it only sounds like you want two sounds - a rock clean and a rock dist.

Good luck...

this is solid advice
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I doubt you'd get Metallica's distortion with Fender's stock humbuckers. In my opinion they're even worse than Epi's stock humbuckers.
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#10
I'd say the HSS and swap out the bridge to somthing hotter.


But that's my opinion, go try them out.
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Hm, I'd go for an Agile with a pickup change.
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#12
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HSS = Light , Thin neck , easy to play wit on stage, fun
LP = heavy, thick neck
Actually, the Epi neck is slimmer than the Fender neck. The Gibson 60's neck is also about the same size as the Fender. It's only the Gibson 50's and '59 necks which are noticably thicker (and even then, it's not much thicker)

Anyway, for the styles you mention, I'd say the Strat is the better option.
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Actually, the Epi neck is slimmer than the Fender neck. The Gibson 60's neck is also about the same size as the Fender. It's only the Gibson 50's and '59 necks which are noticably thicker (and even then, it's not much thicker)

Anyway, for the styles you mention, I'd say the Strat is the better option.

really now. ive heard that les paul's necks are really thick! guess ive heard wrong.

and to all, yeah im gonna switch out pickups..
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#15
I love my HSS American Deluxe. I think I prefer it over my Les Pauls. I would prefer a better humbucker in the bridge than the enforcer though, but that will be easy to resolve. I say go for an HSS Fender Strat.
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Stop being such an ignorant fanboy.

For TS, get a epi LP of some sort, maybe a LP Ultra if you are afraid of the weight.
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but really i have heard the complete opposite of the necks of a LP and a strat
The problem is, when most people think of a 'LP neck', they think of the big necks that Les Pauls made in 1959 had. All the necks on '59 LPs were slightly different, but most were just under 1" thick all-round (compared to most Fender necks which were around 0.80" at their thickest).

However, most Gibsons - and all Epiphones - don't have that neck. Most Gibsons have the earlier '50's neck' or the slim-taper 60's neck. That 50's neck is pretty much right in between the '59 neck and the Fender neck, and the 60's slim taper neck is just a little thicker than a Fender neck at the high frets and about the same as a Fender neck at the low frets.

Then there's the Epiphone neck profile. Epiphone have always used their own necks, they don't use Gibson neck profiles. The Epiphone neck profile is a little slimmer than a Fender neck at the low frets, and around the same at the high frets. There are a couple of Epis that use a different neck (like their extra-thin Prophecy series, or the thicker neck on the Slash Signature), but most use the standard Epi neck.



Which is why I'm amazed at how many people say Les Pauls have thick necks. Yes, there are some LPs, made many decades ago, that have thick necks. But even then it was only .20" thicker than a regular Fender neck, and the vast majority of modern LPs from both Gibson and Epiphone have necks very similar to the Fender neck, so there's really not much in it.


Really the only 'speed' features the Fender has over an LP neck is Fender's fretwire is usually fractionally higher than Gibson or Epiphone's, and some people find higher fretwire easier to play quickly on. Apart from that though, they're virtually the same these days.
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The problem is, when most people think of a 'LP neck', they think of the big necks that Les Pauls made in 1959 had. All the necks on '59 LPs were slightly different, but most were just under 1" thick all-round (compared to most Fender necks which were around 0.80" at their thickest).

However, most Gibsons - and all Epiphones - don't have that neck. Most Gibsons have the earlier '50's neck' or the slim-taper 60's neck. That 50's neck is pretty much right in between the '59 neck and the Fender neck, and the 60's slim taper neck is just a little thicker than a Fender neck at the high frets and about the same as a Fender neck at the low frets.

Then there's the Epiphone neck profile. Epiphone have always used their own necks, they don't use Gibson neck profiles. The Epiphone neck profile is a little slimmer than a Fender neck at the low frets, and around the same at the high frets. There are a couple of Epis that use a different neck (like their extra-thin Prophecy series, or the thicker neck on the Slash Signature), but most use the standard Epi neck.



Which is why I'm amazed at how many people say Les Pauls have thick necks. Yes, there are some LPs, made many decades ago, that have thick necks. But even then it was only .20" thicker than a regular Fender neck, and the vast majority of modern LPs from both Gibson and Epiphone have necks very similar to the Fender neck, so there's really not much in it.


Really the only 'speed' features the Fender has over an LP neck is Fender's fretwire is usually fractionally higher than Gibson or Epiphone's, and some people find higher fretwire easier to play quickly on. Apart from that though, they're virtually the same these days.

thanks a lot for all the info.
i think ill just get the epi LP thx again to everyone
#21
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how do u compare YOUR necks


That is the primary reasons that I like the MAerican Deluxe Stratocaster better than my Les Pauls. The neck is incredible. The neck is so fast and easy to play. Your hand and fingers just glide across the neck and down the frets. The Les Paul is like a workout to play comparatively speaking. I can play my Strat with so little effort it feels as if I am not even fretting notes out properly, but the sound is clear and amazing.

I may have just gotten lucky with my Stratocaster. I can set the action about half the height of my Les Paul action and down tune the Strat and it still does not fret out. I have it down tuned right now and the action is not much more than a pick thickness at the 12th fret. I have never had a neck I could set so low and not fret out. It actually took me a while to get used to playing it this low and I raised i a bit for a while. I just put it back down to play around and it is amazing their. My Les Pauls would be shit if I set them this low.
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