#1
right this is my situation ive been play 3 years. ive learnt loads of songs, solos and theory. ive even written a few songs n riffs n solos and what not. but heres my dilema i can keep a tempo not very well but i can. however even though my timing on my own is well below average, i cant play against a drum kit cos to me theres nothing there? also with a metronome for the last month ive been trying to play against one of them. i start slow and just palm mute against it, then i go into a scale but i lose track.

1. how do u play with a metronome?
2. and how the hell do u play with a damn drum kit

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#2
just start off playing one note per click then two per click etc and as for drums just start slow and practice till it starts to fit
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#3
Count the beats? It really isn't that hard, although I find Drums easier to play with.
#5
I think after a while of trying to play along to a beat i.e. drum kit or metronome or even bass line, you start to get a feel of the timing and you can anticapte (sp?) when the beat's will fall etc.. it just take's time. i still get lost mid song sometime's and it's frustating, but i know the more learn how to feel/ play with a beat, the more it'll get easier and the more ill quickly improve.
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#6
try tapping your foot.

Its tuff at first, you just have to keep trying to play with songs, and the metranome.

it will come with time if you keep practicing it.

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#7
You'd have to own a time machine to shoot the inventor of the metronome.

I think you need to be a bit more clear on the drum set situation instead of: "
i cant play against a drum kit cos to me theres nothing there?"

But for the metronome try playing a note on every beat for scale usage.
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#8
lol, you start by playing a note on the beat for the metronome. so play crotchets in time with the beat. then, pick twice to every beat of the metronome instead of once. keep doing this, and gradually increase the speed of the metronome by 2-3 bpm.

drums are essentially the same as metronomes: they keep time but in a more interesting way.
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#9
How have you learned songs without proper tempo? That's astounding...

It's all a matter of practice, and getting it into your head. Some people have natural timing, others have to develop it.

Playing with a kit actually isn't hard if the drummer is able to keep a beat. If they can keep on time, then you should be able to pick out the tempo and rhythm (be it 4/4, 3/4. 7/8, whatever).

Start slow...and when you're listening to songs, count out the beat (1-2-3-4, or whatever it is for the song).

And again, I'm amazed that you've been playing this long without having any sense of timing...that's not good at all.
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#10
Nod your head or foot as some suggested. If you find that hard you can just hit the strings extra hard when you count :P. Works for me anyway, when i practice.
#11
hmm youve been playing for three years. learned lots of songs solos and theory but have no sense of rhythm what so ever? sounds like a dilemma to me..
#12
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You'd have to own a time machine to shoot the inventor of the metronome.

I think you need to be a bit more clear on the drum set situation instead of: "
i cant play against a drum kit cos to me theres nothing there?"

But for the metronome try playing a note on every beat for scale usage.



what i mean is i cant see anything on a drum beat to play along with?
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comes natural to you, cant you nod your head to the music white boy?



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#14
start slow work through finger exercises with one note per click once u have that mastered and i mean u can play up and down and all around the finger board witout ever messing up THEN move to 2 notes per click and so on and the increase speed. disiplinary practice is what u need
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start slow work through finger exercises with one note per click once u have that mastered and i mean u can play up and down and all around the finger board witout ever messing up THEN move to 2 notes per click and so on and the increase speed. disiplinary practice is what u need


ya really need to work on a tempo cos my metronome is that internet one
#16
On the chance of soundling like a dick when you listen to drums and or music do you hear the rythymn?
Or just the flow?

The Side guitarist from my last band had a problem with this.
He listened only to the flow and didnt undertand how to work off a rythymn.
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[quote="'[BurnTheDusk"]']On the chance of soundling like a dick when you listen to drums and or music do you hear the rythymn?
Or just the flow?

The Side guitarist from my last band had a problem with this.
He listened only to the flow and didnt undertand how to work off a rythymn.


i hear well just the rythm but nothing to hit. it aint liek playing against another guitar its strange for me. it took me a year to play in time by my self with nothing to play against but to play in a given tempo is hard for me. i think i may be time illiterate/retarded
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i hear well just the rythm but nothing to hit. it aint liek playing against another guitar its strange for me. it took me a year to play in time by my self with nothing to play against but to play in a given tempo is hard for me. i think i may be time illiterate/retarded

A year of off Rythymn playing?
Hmmm
Id say just start taking a diffrent approach possibly to how you work with the rythymn.
Practice with a drummer for some time and you might hit a point where it all makes sence.
#19
[quote="'[BurnTheDusk"]']A year of off Rythymn playing?
Hmmm
Id say just start taking a diffrent approach possibly to how you work with the rythymn.
Practice with a drummer for some time and you might hit a point where it all makes sence.


but with a metranome i dont understand hwo people can just effortlessly put it to 200 bpm + liek on master of puppets and just casually play along how in gods hell is that easy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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but with a metranome i dont understand hwo people can just effortlessly put it to 200 bpm + liek on master of puppets and just casually play along how in gods hell is that easy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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#21
[quote="'[BurnTheDusk"]']Its easy with practice young padiwan.


kk thanks for ur help i will try and perservere and then hopefully become a brilliant rythm guitarist lol ty
#22
Stop being white and get a sense of rhythm.

Honestly, I never had to play with a metronome, the rhythm is in my head. Tis why I picked up the drums so quickly. Just keep at it and practice.
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#23
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Stop being white and get a sense of rhythm.

Honestly, I never had to play with a metronome, the rhythm is in my head. Tis why I picked up the drums so quickly. Just keep at it and practice.

Stop being an asshole and get a sence of decency.

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#24
I find metronomes so distracting, I DEFINITELY keep better time without them.
I'd imagine its a case of practice makes perfect though
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[quote="'[BurnTheDusk"]']Stop being an asshole and get a sence of decency.

Not everyone is the same.
Some traits are inherited.
Some are earned.

Nothing's inherited. I'm the only one who plays any instrument in my family, so it is by no means in my blood. I told him to practice, should be good enough. Nobody here is good because they have some inherited guitar trait, they're good cos they practiced. I have no sympathy for anyone who's sitting here reading this post and getting ready to make a thread about how they can't do this or that.
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Nothing's inherited. I'm the only one who plays any instrument in my family, so it is by no means in my blood. I told him to practice, should be good enough. Nobody here is good becauset hey have some inherited guitar trait, they're good cos they practiced. I have no sympathy for anyone who's sitting here reading this post and getting ready to make a thread about how they can't do this or that.

Eye Color is a trait.
Eye Color is INHERITED.

A Sence Of Rythymn is a Trait
A Sence Of Rythymn Comes faster to some than others but in reality develops over time.
Its EARNED.

Plus the fact that no one in your family plays an instrument doesnt support your fact.
If everyone in your family (every single one) has tryed to play the drums and failed miserably due to lacking a sence of rythymn... now that would support your theory.
Now for future referance please dont be so mean to complete strangers.
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#27
1. Actually most are failed guitarists or banjo players. Cousin's a failed drummer, that's about it.

2. It's 'Sense'.

3. Wasn't being mean, it was a joke, and I pity you if you took it any other way.

4. For Christ's sake, go practice already.
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1. Actually most are failed guitarists or banjo players. Cousin's a failed drummer, that's about it.

2. It's 'Sense'.

3. Wasn't being mean, it was a joke, and I pity you if you took it any other way.

4. For Christ's sake, go practice already.

I know it was a joke.
Yet the entire post was in all shapes and forms a "stop complaining wussy" post.
That you cant see how mean that post was is worth the pity.
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#29
Start by just hitting every click then work up to two and three notes, if you get a good metronome you can get it to do eighth notes and different time signatures which can be useful. When your actually playing songs with it the key is definitely to hit the first beat exactly, you sometimes go off beat or make a mistake but its usually not a big deal if you can come back on 1.
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