#1
basically its been a couple of years since i got my strat and now i want something a bit more metal, and i would love james hetfields esp truckster (the worn out looking eclipse) but its too expensive even the LTD version, and i dont reeli like the look of any other of the LP shaped guitars out there

so i found this

http://www.thomann.de/gb/cort_vx_4x_wp.htm

and it seems to fit what i want perfectly, but then a friend of mine pointed out that as i advance more and learn to solo,(im more of a metal rhythm guy(hence the hetfield guitar i mentioned)) so he suggested i look for something with 24 frets and a floyd rose, (for teh dimebag squeels)

so then i found this

http://www.thomann.de/gb/ibanez_rg320pgp1.htm

and it looks cool has 24 frets and a floyd style trem, but i wanted a bit more interesting shape

which then led to this

http://www.thomann.de/gb/dean_guitars_mlf_79_tb.htm

but i dont reeli like the ML so much, it was my friend who said it would be good, but i aint sure

so this leads to my prediciment , the guitar i like the look of the best doesnt have the features i might need in the future.

so UG help me out
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#2
neither of them are particularly gr8,
I've got that Ibanez RG320PG lol, trying to sell it.
I'd pick the Dean over the Cort personally.
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#3
Cort; Nicest. Try it. Do try some other guitars though, there are better humbucker guitars with stoptails.

Ibanez; If you intend to use the trem, hell no. Edge III's are awful tremolos and drop out of tune easier than your first guitar.

Dean; Eh, I've never liked Deans much tbh.

Personally I'd recommend an ESP. For metal their great guitars for the money IMO.
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I'd get the Cort. I, personally, hate Floyd Rose and tremelos. I never use 24 frets, never saw a point. :/ Its got solid Mahogany as opposed to the Ibanez' Basswood. (Mahogany tends to be better than basswood). It doesn't look like you like the Dean, so throw that out. Also, in most cases EMG pickups tend to be better than guitar-brand stock pickups.
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#5
Honestly none of them are that great. The Cort has EMG Hz pickups which are terrible, the Ibanez has an Edge III which is terrible, and I'm just not a fan of the looks or tone of the ML.

If you want a worn Eclipse so badly, jut buy one and wear it out yourself

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#6
yeah, i dont think i will use the trem, and i dont see the point in 24 frets either, ad no im not a huge dean fan, although if matt heafys sig was around that price i would get it without hesitation its so cool looking

so can you guys reccomend some other guitars similar to the cort one?
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I would go for the Dean mainly because the Ibanez has a Edge 3 (I have one on my Rg350 and its hell) and as for the cort I have never tried it my self so I cant say what it is like to play
I was going to get the ml79 but i dont have the money for it at the moment
hope tht helps a bit
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#8
You don't need a Floyd and 24 frets to play metal. How much of an advantage are two frets? I hardly ever move past the 17th one. The Floyd on the Ibanez is not a good one and from the price I guess the one on the Dean is not any better. I have not played that particular Dean, but my various encounters with other Deans got me thinking that they're not worth their money unless they're one of the higher end ones from the USA. This is not one of those.

I think you're friend doesn't know his sh*t. You should get whichever guitar you like.
If you really want a Floyd, look at this:
http://www.thomann.de/gb/ibanez_s320wk.htm
It's not as flashy as the other guitars, but the Floyd is good and the pickups are better than on the other Ibanez.

EDIT: A slightly better version of the S:
http://www.thomann.de/gb/ibanez_s670fm_atf.htm
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yeah, i dont think i will use the trem, and i dont see the point in 24 frets either, ad no im not a huge dean fan, although if matt heafys sig was around that price i would get it without hesitation its so cool looking

so can you guys reccomend some other guitars similar to the cort one?



Try an Epiphone G-400. Also stoptail, also 22 frets, also HH.

Also try the Fender tele deluxe. The humbuckers on it actually take gain pretty well.

You may also want to try some of the higher-end Epi Les Pauls, as well as, again, ESP's.

Also try an SS tele. They actually take distortion pretty good as long as you have noiseless pickups in.
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Epis are horrid for metal as long as you don't swap the pickups regardless which model, the Fenders are nice for what they cost, they're not a good choice for metal with the single coils though.
#11
I've got a friend who has that Dean. Don't buy it, the head is way too heavy compared to the body, and makes it unbalanced and uncomfortable to play. So dont buy it no matter how good the pickups are and how good it looks.
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Epis are horrid for metal as long as you don't swap the pickups regardless which model, the Fenders are nice for what they cost, they're not a good choice for metal with the single coils though.


Huh...well I feel like an idiot then; I've been going around suggesting them, and apparently my friends G-400 I thought was stock isn't. >< Eh, thanks for helping me realize my stupidity.

Tom Morello uses one with single-coils. Granted he's technically alternative, but still, the dude has a lot of gain. Also, John 5 uses an SS tele.
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I would go for the Dean mainly because the Ibanez has a Edge 3 (I have one on my Rg350 and its hell) and as for the cort I have never tried it my self so I cant say what it is like to play
I was going to get the ml79 but i dont have the money for it at the moment
hope tht helps a bit


Yeah man, Deans are good guitars (I am a Dean player)! So thats my vote!
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#14
@necrosis:
No need to get sarcastic, I wasn't trying to insult anyone. Sorry if I souned like that. It's just that the Epis that have been made in recent years had pretty low end pickups and didn't quite do it for me. If you can find one of the old ones with gibson-made pickups, that's a different story then.

I too use a single coil guitar for high gain (a strat), but it's not a typical metal guitar and I wouldn't recommend it to a Metallica fan. I think going with a more typical metal guitar is best in most cases.

And didn't John5 use humbuckers in his tele?
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No need to get sarcastic, I wasn't trying to insult anyone. Sorry if I souned like that. It's just that the Epis that have been made in recent years had pretty low end pickups and didn't quite do it for me. If you can find one of the old ones with gibson-made pickups, that's a different story then.

I too use a single coil guitar for high gain (a strat), but it's not a typical metal guitar and I wouldn't recommend it to a Metallica fan. I think going with a more typical metal guitar is best in most cases.

And didn't John5 use humbuckers in his tele?


I wasn't being sarcastic. I was really thanking you. Sorry about the misunderstanding. I always hated how easily things seem sarcastic over the internet...

Fair enough.

I think he has a single-coil in the neck and a DiMarzio single-coil sized humbucker in the bridge.
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#16
so you guys think of those 3 that the cort is my way to go? another question, i have heard that the EMGs in it are not so good, what pickups would be good for me then?
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so you guys think of those 3 that the cort is my way to go? another question, i have heard that the EMGs in it are not so good, what pickups would be good for me then?


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