Poll: What makes a good bassist?
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Funky Slap and Pop
5 4%
Rhythm and Presence
112 96%
Voters: 117.
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#1
Me and my friends have been having a debate of what a definition of a good bassist is, they're all guitarist by the way, all of them say a good bassist are bassists who slap and pop like flea and victor wooten... I disagree, I think it is someone who can make a good rhythm structure to add presence to the song.

I used to think it was the good ole slap and pop that made a good bassist until I actually began learning bass.

So, pit, opinions?
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#3
Quote by Kev_ Bass Funk
Usually a good rythm sounds much better than a slap and pop, imo


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#5
Quote by Deliriumbassist
Point them in the way of John Myung and say he doesn't slap or pop. Maybe then they'll realise that they are being silly. One technique does NOT make a musician better than another.


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#6
one who keeps good time and plays interesting (not root note) bass lines that don't detract from the other instruments.
#7
A good bassist can play a nice rythem that makes the song. (excluding other guitars)
Like when you listen to verses that have just bass. You want it to sound full. Like Ryan Martinie, letting the bass be heard over the guitar, can also make the bass player better. Not just hearing the bass in a fade out.
#8
Quote by tehREALcaptain
one who keeps good time and plays interesting (not root note) bass lines that don't detract from the other instruments.


yeh, like a good rhythm
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#9
idontlikefunk.

Anyways, can't you have both?
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Quote by lordofthefood1
idontlikefunk.

Anyways, can't you have both?


well yes, but if you could only have one or the other
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#11
Slap and Pop is a fun and interesting technique but by no means the definition of a good bassist. Providing a solid yet interesting rythm with any technique seems like a better definition.
#13
just to see I once played random fast slaps and pops with a friend playing some chords.

My sister, not musically trained, thought it was cool. my friend on the guitar told me I sounded like Les Claypool. from him, this was not a compliment. this reminded me of that. anyways, a bassist is easily a rhythm instrument, that must follow the drums to some extent, as opposed to a trumpet, which never has to do much locking in to any beats really. slap and pop, if used correctly, can be very rhythmical, especially with a fast, jumpy drumbeat pounding in the background.
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#15
I would like to make sure we agree that, while Flea does Slap a good bit, he does so very artfully. And otherwise, he plays very rhythmically and countermelodically.

Someone who thinks that a good bassist is someone who can slap is probably the same guy who thinks that a good guitarist is someone who can tap. They even rhyme.
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#16
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This, now lets let this thread die.



i only wanted people to answer the poll anyway... just to settle the debate amongst me and my guitar buddies
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#17
Quote by GangsterLi
i only wanted people to answer the poll anyway... just to settle the debate amongst me and my guitar buddies

I have to ask you, what do your guitar buddies think of what constitutes a good guitarist? Just wondering.
#18
Quote by watchingmefall
I have to ask you, what do your guitar buddies think of what constitutes a good guitarist? Just wondering.

5:1 says "Somebody who can tap/shred."

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#19
Simple answer: Both

A good bassist is someone who has good rhythm and presence, but also likes to get crazy and play more complicated parts, like slaps, but not just slap parts.

Flea for example has a lot of very impressive and complicated bass parts that are not slapped.
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#20
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5:1 says "Somebody who can tap/shred."

Come on, big money, big money, no whammies...

I'll take your bet and say it's someone who can solo with emotion, whatever the hell that means. And of course if someone is better they say "sure, it's good but his playing leaves me cold.
#22
I thought this would be much more one sided.
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#23
Guitarists are usually impressed by slapping and popping. That's just how it is.
#25
this is a silly question. this is making chocolate chip cookies and asking, which do you like better, the chocolate chip or the cookie?


well... you know... neither one is perfect without the other. Sure, I'd take a cookie (rhythm) over chocolate chips by themselves (technique without substance), but isn't technique and substance the best?


I use this for more than just slap & pop though, I mean that for all 'techniques'. but the point should be made... you're comparing a technique to a style of play. they go hand and hand.
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#26
UtBDan is no longer a mod?
when did this happen?!
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UtBDan is no longer a mod?
when did this happen?!



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UtBDan is no longer a mod?
when did this happen?!


I stopped being a mod about a month ago and merely stayed on as a Smod.
I asked to be taken off, not because I didn't like the title, but because I did 0 work and was merely keeping my title to feel cool. So I stepped down because I'm sure someone who wanted to do all the work and deserved the spot should get it, instead of he-who-did-it-for-2-years-and-now-just-wanted-to-feel-cool.
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#29
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I'll take your bet and say it's someone who can solo with emotion, whatever the hell that means. And of course if someone is better they say "sure, it's good but his playing leaves me cold.

I just turn on that Static-X song....

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and just to be relevant...

definitely a strong rhythm/foundation for the band. always.
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#30
Rhythm, Precense is more efeective but if you can combine both slap, pop and rhythm and presence then thats something
#31
56 to 2 people say Rhythm and Presence, I think it's perfectly clear.
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#32
doesnt good overall technique help aswell as rhythm and presence?
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#34
Quote by UtBDan
this is a silly question. this is making chocolate chip cookies and asking, which do you like better, the chocolate chip or the cookie?


well... you know... neither one is perfect without the other. Sure, I'd take a cookie (rhythm) over chocolate chips by themselves (technique without substance), but isn't technique and substance the best?


I use this for more than just slap & pop though, I mean that for all 'techniques'. but the point should be made... you're comparing a technique to a style of play. they go hand and hand.


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A good bassist is one that gets out of the way so I can solo.


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#35
Quote by Applehead
A "good" bassist is one who can supply the right line.

exactly.
you can have a good bassist who slaps and pops. you can make a song very rhythmic by having a good bassline that uses the slap and pop technique. but you can also do this by just regular fingerpicking. it depends on many other things. but as the person i quoted said, the best line is the line that suits the song the best.
#37
This is a really dumb question. There are times when one is more appropriate then the other so you can't answer accurately.
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#38
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I stopped being a mod about a month ago and merely stayed on as a Smod.
I asked to be taken off, not because I didn't like the title, but because I did 0 work and was merely keeping my title to feel cool. So I stepped down because I'm sure someone who wanted to do all the work and deserved the spot should get it, instead of he-who-did-it-for-2-years-and-now-just-wanted-to-feel-cool.

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#39
Quote by Cody_Grey102
Wrong.


I think it's completely right, it's not like you bassists can solo or anything, so why not make room for a real musician to come through, right?
#40
^Aw...Bumper. Feel the love. I'll let you play your guitar solo, but I do get my 2 minute bass solo, because god knows people need to get the bar to get a beer refill

Anyway I think Applehead answered this one somewhere in the first few posts....
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