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#2
really, it just usually ends up as the male being charged with rape when the girl realizes the next day what she did.
#3
They shouldn't have got drunk in the first place. It is the alcohol's fault.
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#4
It's legal here, or else I would've been in jail a million times over.

I don't really understand some things about it. I mean, you choose to get drunk right? Surely you have some idea of what you're like when you're drunk. And if you don't, you're an idiot.

No one should be taken advantage of, though.
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#5
I'd have to say no.

If both consented while drunk, that would form an oral (lulz.) agreement. Crazy shit can happen when you're drunk, and people should know that before they drink.
#6
If she let it happen, then no. I don't care if they were both out of their minds, at the time she wanted to do it, so it can't be casual sex, then all of the sudden, be considered as rape.
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#7
i seen on tv once this happened. they were both drunk but she didn't remeber what happened the next morning. he swore she was awake the whole time and stuff but he got chargerd with rape. the was alot of other details but you get the idea. remeber its always the guys fault
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It's legal here, or else I would've been in jail a million times over.

I don't really understand some things about it. I mean, you choose to get drunk right? Surely you have some idea of what you're like when you're drunk. And if you don't, you're an idiot.


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#9
The man will be charged with rape whether it is or not. Happens all the time.
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#10
if she's not satisfied then she can call the police and say you raped her, so you better be good.
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#11
Record the agreement next time. Have your friend record it so its agreed its not rape and completely consensual.
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#14
basically, you need to call in your lawyers first and have her sign a contract to prove her consent (she may need a priest present too).
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#16
I hate the fact that it's always the guys fault no matter what. Where I live, this shyt happens all the time. Like let's say the girl gives the guy a blow job. Well if things don't work out and they break up, she can charge him with rape if she wants to and he WILL lose the case. It happens all the time here like I said. And yes, I'm in school, so I ride a school bus
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#18
if both partys have consented then it isnt rape.
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#19
Actually if your drunk and the girl takes advantage of you. Its still rape on your part.
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#23
I'm moderately sure that it is legally rape on the guy's part.
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#24
Here, I believe, if you do not get explicit consent it is rape.
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#25
technically yes
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#26
It's rape if the girl doesn't want to be seen as easy. If two drunk people fvck, the girl can say it was rape to save face and the law will agree with her.
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really, it just usually ends up as the male being charged with rape when the girl realizes the next day what she did.


This.

Basically, it's not rape morally or logically but it might legally be rape in the ridiculous sexist court system.

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#28
Man, a question like this could only be asked in the pit.

P.S. If she says it's rape your screwed, because that is the rule of the earth.
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#30
If I remember correctly back in my sex ed class, the teacher told us that if both are drunk, and one files a rape charge, you can file a counter suit or something.

But yeah, the guy is usually considered at fault.
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Yeah, bloody feminists.

Who'd have thought that rape still has a ridiculously low conviction rate and what you're describing happens so rarely as to be laughable!

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#32
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And they both consented while drunk, but then upon sobering up one decides it is rape?

Can anyone help me find legal statute to support one way or the other? My sociology class is debating this issue because we are reading an article on collegiate rape culture...


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Well it really depends on if there's a significant difference in how drunk they are. If one of them was sober enough to still be taking advantage but drunk enough to go "Hey I was drunk..." (which is a pretty fine line) then it could be considered rape. But tbh, I don't think that's easy to distinguish the next day anyway, so there would be no real way to legally confirm it.
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#33
If you have no way to prove otherwise, legally yes, it is. In any case involving rape, the man usually gets screwed by the justice system. It's wrong.

Morally I say it's not rape. Both parties consented, you should've have thought about what might happen before you drank.
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Who'd have thought that rape still has a ridiculously low conviction rate and what you're describing happens so rarely as to be laughable!


The stats for the proportion of false rape allegations do range between 5-60%. There's really no way to tell how often false rape allegations occur.
#35
It's just like all things,

Contracts are void if you're drunk when you sign them.
If you hit and kill someone whilst driving drunk you get a fine and some time for drink driving and grievous bodily harm rather than manslaughter.

My point is, if your drunk it usually voids most legal situations, all you need to do is prove you were both drunk...

So in context it's not rape, it's void consensual sex (if proven), which basically means if it ever sees a court and you can prove you were both shit-faced the case will be dismissed as nothing more than drunken shenanigans.
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#36
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Yeah, bloody feminists.

Who'd have thought that rape still has a ridiculously low conviction rate and what you're describing happens so rarely as to be laughable!

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#38
Well if he/she said yes at the time then it obviously means he/she was comfortable with it at said time, Alcohol or not. Just because he/she realizes, after theyve sobered up the next day, that it was a bad idea..they didnt mind when it was happening therefor I dont believe it is rape. Rape is forced and not enjoyed (lolz im so smart)..

Unless the guy (or girl) was like..strategically planning it all throughout the night..slowly pushing drinks on him or her

But you said both parties are drunk so I assume this scenario isnt an option.
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#39
It is rape because you cannot make a decision while impaired by alcohol, drugs...
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I disagree. It's the fault of George Bush and global warming.

Don't be ridiculous. It's all that heavy metal music that pervades our youth.

On-topic, drunken consent is still consent, IMO.
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Here, I believe, if you do not get explicit consent it is rape.

I don't really know the finer details of Georgia rape laws, but I think this is how it ought to be.
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