#2
the "b" are flats.. a semitone lower

... an 8 note scale?
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#3
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the "b" are flats.. a semitone lower

... an 8 note scale?


Octatonic scale
#4
They always relate to the major scale.

The major scale is
1 2 3 4 5 6 7
C D E F G A B
- with C as root
so...
1 b2 b3 3 b5 5 6 b7
C Db Eb E Gb G A Bb
- with C as root
Si
#5
^^

But you also have to remember that if you use a scales such as
E that you can't forget the accidentals from the original scale

E Maj E F# G# A B C# D#

so if you apply the new scale you get

E F G G# Bb B C# D

..it would probably make more sense to have the the 3 be b4 so you stay as close to a diatonic scale as possible.

So in the G# then becomes Ab
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#6
Yeah I was thinking along similar lines except I was thinking the b5 would be a sharp 4. But you could rewrite it many different ways so thought I would leave that out so as not to confuse TS further.

But some of the other ways of writing this that I considered were
1 #1 #2 3 #4 5 6 b7
1 b2 b3 3 #4 5 6 b7
1 b2 #2 3 #4 5 6 b7
1 b2 b3 b4 b5 5 6 b7
and some more but I didn't know which one would be correct. But I guess it would be the one you suggested (the last one in my list) as it doesn't mix the bs and #s. But then when you apply it and give it a root value you are likely to get mixed b's and #s anyway. So then I thought it would depend on how you use each note in context so I just left it with the way the TS originally had it.

Any ideas on which one is correct nomenclature and why?
Si
#7
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1 b2 b3 b4 b5 5 6 b7



if i had to pick i'd pick this one because all the accidentals are flats

Edit:
also you could think of it without the tritone as 1,b2,b3,b4,5,6,b7
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#8
LMAO

It's the dominant diminished scale aka half-whole. I was looking and looking at it before and only just clicked. Now I feel a little sdupit at not having realized earlier.

H W H W H W H W

PS Once I clicked on this I decided to check my theory books to see how they write the scale. They do it 1 b2 b3 3 #4 5 6 b7. I guess it's just a matter of preference.
Si
#10
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LMAO

It's the dominant diminished scale aka half-whole. I was looking and looking at it before and only just clicked. Now I feel a little sdupit at not having realized earlier.

H W H W H W H W

PS Once I clicked on this I decided to check my theory books to see how they write the scale. They do it 1 b2 b3 3 #4 5 6 b7. I guess it's just a matter of preference.


Nice call. I've never actually put the half-whole into practice before so i would have never thought of that.
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