#1
I know this is just asking for extreme elitism, but I'm here to seriously bring up discussion of experimental metal bands and also some recommends.
It could be productive as long as no one gets into elitist mode and starts declaring that isn't avant-garde and that this is. It's all up to preception.
Avant-garde really isn't a genre, just like the progressive term. A lot of avant-metal bands are considered progressive at the same time. I believe it is more of an adjective.
John Cage has a definition that like (which I can't seem to find the quote for) which goes along lines that experimental music cannot be predicted or controlled.

If someone can find that quote, I would be very grateful.

Now, these guys don't get enough love and they are also one of my favorite bands, so I'm very opinionated about them. I'm talking about Kekal. You should check them out.
http://www.myspace.com/kekal
#3
No avant-garde metal band can ever touch Mr. Bungle
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#5
Quote by Kepulix
No avant-garde metal band can ever touch Mr. Bungle

problem is, they were hardly metal when they became more avant-garde.

their early ep's were just early death metal or thrash. then they got funky... then they just went avant-garde with a few moments being kinda metal.

fantomas are a better example of a great avant-garde metal band, apart from that... the genre is a bit wack.
#7
I found Arcturus' La Infernal Masquerade and The Sham Mirrors good, if you count that as avant garde
#8
Quote by ulique
problem is, they were hardly metal when they became more avant-garde.

their early ep's were just early death metal or thrash. then they got funky... then they just went avant-garde with a few moments being kinda metal.

fantomas are a better example of a great avant-garde metal band, apart from that... the genre is a bit wack.

I didn't claim they were metal (apart from the very early stuff), was just stating that they are better avant-garde band than any avant-garde metal band there is


Fantômas are good too
I’m not the man I used to be, I... I can’t go back to Arkham.

I... I should return to Arkham.


Among the churchyard’s mouldering stones I recognise a name – my own.
I have come home to Arkham.

#10
Quote by dierk467
I found Arcturus' La Infernal Masquerade and The Sham Mirrors good, if you count that as avant garde

this
#11
Quote by ulique
problem is, they were hardly metal when they became more avant-garde.

their early ep's were just early death metal or thrash. then they got funky... then they just went avant-garde with a few moments being kinda metal.

fantomas are a better example of a great avant-garde metal band, apart from that... the genre is a bit wack.

Mr. Bungle practically switched genres every song, the only release that I wouldn't call metal is California. Even the first demo switched to funky parts.
#13
Fuckin' Sculptured.
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#15
^ No, No, and maybe

Quote by BringMeTheCalm
Fuckin' Sculptured.


damn straight.

Ulver's later career definitely has some avant garde flair

and who can forget the phenomenal album Suspended Animation Dreams by Subterranean Masquerade?
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#20
Quote by huevos
I know this is just asking for extreme elitism, but I'm here to seriously bring up discussion of experimental metal bands and also some recommends.
It could be productive as long as no one gets into elitist mode and starts declaring that isn't avant-garde and that this is. It's all up to preception.
Avant-garde really isn't a genre, just like the progressive term. A lot of avant-metal bands are considered progressive at the same time. I believe it is more of an adjective.
John Cage has a definition that like (which I can't seem to find the quote for) which goes along lines that experimental music cannot be predicted or controlled.

If someone can find that quote, I would be very grateful.

Now, these guys don't get enough love and they are also one of my favorite bands, so I'm very opinionated about them. I'm talking about Kekal. You should check them out.
http://www.myspace.com/kekal
https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=623790&highlight=avant

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