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#1
i have this band but one my friends invited another guy to play in the band and now we are thre so how do we take advantage of this
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#2
Two Lead one rhythm, two rhythm one lead, either you wanna go with it. It's really good if you guys wanna get crazy and plus it sounds great if you all play in sync.

My friends and I played a les paul, an sg, and a flying v all together at the same time in sync with one another and it sounded amazing. Two played power chords and we took turns doing solos.

Best jam ever.
#3
but like i heard you should play in diff keys
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#4
Yeah either do 2 leads, 1 rhythm; 2 rhythm, 1 lead; do those which whatever's done twice harmonizing eachother, or do 1 lead, 1 rhythm, and 1 guitar doing weird effects stuff in the back or doing a little bit of both, you gotta kind of experiment
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#5
Just think of G3 or Iron Maiden... Either two people do rhythm and the other plays lead, and then during the solo have some Octave or Unison soloing. Also more writing power, so songs should be easier to write and better.

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#6
I suppose the best sounding way would be to have, like previously stated, two lead and one rhythm or two rhythm and one lead. Like have two guys soloing, harmonizing each other, and the other guy laying down some rhythm. Or one guy soloing and two guys harmonizing. This reminds me of overdubbing. How, in the mix of a cd, there are two guitars on each side, and then the solo in the middle.
#8
Maiden is only 2 guitars, one playing rhythm which in maiden's case could be anything from power chords to harmonies. and lead, which is usually something like an octave higher then whatever the rhythm player is playing. and then they trade off solos in some songs, or in other songs one plays a melody/chords in the background to keep it going while the other solos.
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#9
maiden has 3......

anyways whats harmonizing
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#10
wow I feel stupid not knowing that.....anyway harmonizing is playing the same notes but different octaves.
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#11
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wow I feel stupid not knowing that.....anyway harmonizing is playing the same notes but different octaves.


No, harmony just means playing two or more notes at the same time, not the same note. Trust me on this, I got a 5 on the AP music theory test. I would suggest you try some stuff like playing in thirds, fourths, or fifths. That means that while one of you plays say, a C chord, another plays an E-third, F-fourth or G chord-fifth. Lynyrd Skynyrd did this.
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#12
Blah, nevermind then.

Back to maiden for a second. they only recently obtained 3 guitarists all of there hits and whatnot were recorded with 2 so I was right.
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#13
the harmonizing thing sounds rather easy..
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#14
wow you guys fail....
harmonizing is playing a certain interval apart, whether it be a major 3rd, minor 3rd, 4th, 5th, or octave.

so you guys could play leads lines in harmony...for example

a minor third is one and one halkf steps, or 3 frets....so to harmonize in a minor thirs, one person would play a note on , say, the 5th fret while the other plays on the eighth fret

( and the other can play rhythm)
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wow you guys fail....
harmonizing is playing a certain interval apart, whether it be a major 3rd, minor 3rd, 4th, 5th, or octave.

so you guys could play leads lines in harmony...for example

a minor third is one and one halkf steps, or 3 frets....so to harmonize in a minor thirs, one person would play a note on , say, the 5th fret while the other plays on the eighth fret

( and the other can play rhythm)

Again, wrong, you might call that harmonizing, but harmonizing just means playing 2 or more notes at once. wow you fail.... Learn your theory or STFU
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Again, wrong, you might call that harmonizing, but harmonizing just means playing 2 or more notes at once. wow you fail.... Learn your theory or STFU

No.. he's completely right dude...
#18
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Back to maiden for a second. they only recently obtained 3 guitarists all of there hits and whatnot were recorded with 2 so I was right.


The whole "Matter of Life and Death" album was recorded with all three of them so look at what they did on that, it should give you a good idea of how to use 3 guitar well.

More than that though you need to learn to harmonize and arrange parts across more than one instrument.
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#19
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No.. he's completely right dude...


Umm, no, harmonizing can be done on one guitar, its called a chord. Harmonizing doesn't have to be between 2 or more guitars.
Definition of harmony -
Music.
a. any simultaneous combination of tones.
b. the simultaneous combination of tones, esp. when blended into chords pleasing to the ear; chordal structure, as distinguished from melody and rhythm.
c. the science of the structure, relations, and practical combination of chords.
Therefore: Harmonization is the combination of two or more notes.
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#20
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Blah, nevermind then.

Back to maiden for a second. they only recently obtained 3 guitarists all of there hits and whatnot were recorded with 2 so I was right.


i'm pretty sure they;ve had 3 for a long time, but i'm not a maiden expert...

EDIT: and by the way, the two leads don't ahve to harmonize. They can play slightly different stuff, take turns etc. One can play standard solo stuff while the other does some crazy background effects and the third plays rhythm

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#21
They actually have 4 now, but they have had 3 since 1980.
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#22
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Umm, no, harmonizing can be done on one guitar, its called a chord. Harmonizing doesn't have to be between 2 or more guitars.
Definition of harmony -
Music.
a. any simultaneous combination of tones.
b. the simultaneous combination of tones, esp. when blended into chords pleasing to the ear; chordal structure, as distinguished from melody and rhythm.
c. the science of the structure, relations, and practical combination of chords.
Therefore: Harmonization is the combination of two or more notes.

And that's exactly what he explained. He never said it HAS to be 2 or more guitars. He was just going into the theory-technical explanation, and you ranted and told him to "learn his theory".

It's fairly obvious who needs to do the learning here.
#23
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They actually have 4 now, but they have had 3 since 1980.

They only have 3
Dave Murray - Guitar 1976–present
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Janick Gers replaced Adrian Smith in 1990 and when Adrian wanted to come back in 1999 they didn't want to fire Janick so they decided to have 3 guitarist.
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#24
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Umm, no, harmonizing can be done on one guitar, its called a chord.

Not necessarily: if you play only two notes then it can't be a chord (not talking about power chords here)

chord
Noun
the simultaneous sounding of three or more musical notes [short for accord]
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#25
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i'm pretty sure they;ve had 3 for a long time, but i'm not a maiden expert...

EDIT: and by the way, the two leads don't ahve to harmonize. They can play slightly different stuff, take turns etc. One can play standard solo stuff while the other does some crazy background effects and the third plays rhythm


Yeah; Brave New World, Dance of Death and Matter of Life and Death were all recorded with all three guitarists.
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#26
Well, I was entirely right in my comment, and he said it was wrong, therefore he was wrong.
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#27
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Well, I was entirely right in my comment, and he said it was wrong, therefore he was wrong.

What?
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#28
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Not necessarily: if you play only two notes then it can't be a chord (not talking about power chords here)

chord
Noun
the simultaneous sounding of three or more musical notes [short for accord]

I never said that all harmonies are chords, I just stated that a chord is an example of a harmony played on just one guitar.
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wrathlegion, i would like to shake hands

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#29
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What?


I wasnt talking to you in that post.
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#30
dude i was just giving them an outline and pointing out that harmonizing isnt just octaves everything i said in my post was true
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#31
And everything I said in my post was true, and I stated it wasnt just in octaves. I think I was responding to you saying I was wrong, but you were really talking about them. My apologies if this is the case.
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#33
have one do chunky chording, one do more lead lines, and the other do a combo of both or maybe do some ambient textures :p.
#34
do two leads and one rhythm like Skynyrd. It sounds win. =3.
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#35
wrathlegion, i would like to shake hands
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#36
Quote by milkmanv1
Blah, nevermind then.

Back to maiden for a second. they only recently obtained 3 guitarists all of there hits and whatnot were recorded with 2 so I was right.


They've had 3 guitarists for the last 8 years...

TS - the rhythm guitars will drown out your solos. I suggest investing in a volume pedal if you don't already have one.
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#37
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#38
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They've had 3 guitarists for the last 8 years...

TS - the rhythm guitars will drown out your solos. I suggest investing in a volume pedal if you don't already have one.

I never actually used a volume pedal, but I don't think they add any more volume, they're just for more control.
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#39
Radiohead comes into mind. One could play straight out rythm, one could make weird sounds to texture the song, and one could play crazy lead parts.
#40
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I never actually used a volume pedal, but I don't think they add any more volume, they're just for more control.

He might mean for the rhythm guitarist to back off when they need to, or keep the volume pedal down and use it for solo boost when he needs to, then roll it back down a bit.
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