#1
Well, I love my LP to death, but... the neck isn't very fast and its really not suited very well for shred. Im looking for something with a lightening fast neck, with some screaming pickups. It doesnt have to be very versatile, just needs to be able to play shred and metal fine, I'll have my LP for everything else. Any suggestions? My price range could be up to around $1200 but preferably around 800ish. So far I have looked into schecter hellraisers, Ibanez S series, esp ltd HM-1000 and Jackson dkmg. any comments?
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#4
HSS Strat? If a Strat's good enough for Malmsteen's shredding it's good enough for anyone's shredding and the humbucker in the HSS makes it suitable for metal.
#5
Sorry, no strats.
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#6
well for metal any ML is solid
you can get the black one w/ the taped pickup for like 550 i think
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#9
Ibanez S for the win, beautiful looks, killer sound and quite versatile, I say that's your best choice
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#10
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#11
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I just have never liked anything that fender made.

Anyways, right now im probably leaning towards the MH-1000, its just so beautiful. Almost as beatiful as the S2170, but it has better pickups, a thru-neck and costs less.
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#12
The schecter will have a thicker, rounder neck than the others, and i think LTDs have thicker necks than ibanez and jackson, but still not as thick as schecter.
#13
all good shred guitars for the money, go test them out and then decide on quality, feel, sound and price. EMG or Duncan actives would be good.
#14
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The schecter will have a thicker, rounder neck than the others, and i think LTDs have thicker necks than ibanez and jackson, but still not as thick as schecter.


LTD`s do have thicker necks, they feel alot like my BC Rich necks, which i LOVE, i HATE Ibanez necks there so thin, and just awful feeling, i like a neck with some chunk, Jacksons are alright but still too thin, i`d go with a BCR neck anyday but the ESP/LTD necks are a close 2nd.

http://www.bcrich.com/asm_pro.html

that looks like a Shred master, i`ve never played one though.

http://www.bcrich.com/v_kk_signature.html

The access to the upper frets is AMAZING on this guitar, which would make it a very fast guitar, like my buddy said b4, there all neck no body to get in the way.
#15
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all good shred guitars for the money, go test them out and then decide on quality, feel, sound and price. EMG or Duncan actives would be good.


+9000000000000000000

We can sit here and preach all day about the guitars that WE like, but you'll have to go try them all out to see which one you like the most.

And Duncans or EMGs are also a plus as well
#17
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We can sit here and preach all day about the guitars that WE like, but you'll have to go try them all out to see which one you like the most.

And Duncans or EMGs are also a plus as well


Thats the problem, there are no guitar stores anywhere within a hundred miles of me that have any of these guitars. The Guitar center here really only hase fender and gibson, its sad, they only have like 4 ibanez.
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#18
What if I decide to go the the route of a nice effects pedal, what would you reccomend?
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#19
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HSS Strat? If a Strat's good enough for Malmsteen's shredding it's good enough for anyone's shredding and the humbucker in the HSS makes it suitable for metal.

Malmsteen's strat was scalloped, so it was a hell of a lot faster than a standard strat.
And if you think a strat needs a 'bucker for metal, Malmsteen's had low output dimarzio single coils. Look it up.

I say go with the Ibanez S Series; alongside the JS series they're the best superstrats there are. Properly shred-orientated and refreshingly free of ugly pointy horns. The only guitar that can pull off pointy horns is an SG. But as has already been stated, you have a shortlist of high-quality guitars and when reccomending one over another, it will be strictly personal preference. The sounds are less important, and easily modified with a pickup swap. The key point when buying a guitar is
what suits you and your preferences. I.E. I like large frets and thin necks, but RG necks suck for me because of the nasty flat radius and sheer width. Playability is basically all that matters when choosing a guitar, so don't compromise on it.
#21
S series guitars are good for shread and I think they are one of the most fun guitars I have ever played
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#23
Ok, I decided against the jackson and schecter. Now, Ibanez S620 vs LTD MH-1000 (The one with EMGs, or the SD)
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#24
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Thats the problem, there are no guitar stores anywhere within a hundred miles of me that have any of these guitars. The Guitar center here really only hase fender and gibson, its sad, they only have like 4 ibanez.


Well here lies the problem I suppose. You could try to base on on reviews of websites. Obviously if it has a good rating, it's not going to disappoint. What I'm currently doing is looking at guitars that I would want, finding how well they're rated, and reading the lowest ratings first to see what people didn't like about it to see if it would indeed fit me, and was still a good buy, etc. However, there's no real substitute for actually trying a guitar, and shame on Guitar Center for not carrying those guitars. This is only one suggestion, and while I don't necessarily advocate it, I guess it might be your best bet. Or like someone else said, you could build one.
#25
On pickups, I can't really think of any shredder that uses actives (save for Rusty Cooley...) and there are a few who use Les Pauls, most prominently Buckethead. His Les Paul is also a bit different from a Standard in that it has 24 frets and it's an ebony fingerboard, but I have no idea how "fast" it is.

I think my Epi's neck is plenty fast enough, but...

Maybe look into an Ibanez PGM301 if you can find one - I recall they go for around that price.
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#26
I think I might be better off sticking with my LP, and do a little more tweaking of the action. Now what about some multi-effects. Im thinking pocket POD, or podxt live. From my point of view, they are made by the same company, so a lot of it has to be the same, and the pocket pod is a ton cheaper. I know a lot of people dont like it, but I kinda do... thoughts?
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I assume you're playing just open strings, so not to scratch your frets.