#1
Let me preface this by apologizing for asking a question that has already probably been answered 100x. I have been doing research here and on other sites but would like to get a response that is somewhat customized to my own situation.

I played guitar back in high school, mainly punk/hardcore. After a 10+ year break, I got out my guitar and amp about a year ago and have been going about things the right way this time. I have played 4 different instruments, including piano for 11 years, so I'm probably a little ahead of the curve for someone only playing a short time. I like to play death metal, a little power metal, and non-mainstream pop punk (Dillinger Four, Lawrence Arms, NoFX, Loved Ones, etc...). I'm getting my Ph.D. in a month and want to reward myself with a new amp, preferably in the $200-350 range. I definitely don't see myself gigging anytime in the near future, but I also want something that sounds better than the horrible Fender Frontman I bought back in 1997. I don't even know the wattage on it, I think it says 38W on the back, but it sounds like garbage. However, I have been able to make it sound ok with a Boss MT-2 (I know the official stance of this board is that the Metal Zone blows, but I'm ok with it for my needs, so don't recommend that I get a Metal Muff instead).

I have:

Mexican Strat (bought back in 1997)
Fender Frontman
Boss MT-2
Boss NS-2 (the hum from the single coils and the MT-2 was so bad, and this thing completely got rid of that)

Now, one thing to say is I do not care about the clean channel. I hardly play anything clean. I have been thinking about getting the Roland Cube 30, which everyone here seems to like, but then I pretty much have two pedals that are useless, including the NS-2 which I bought recently. Instead, I was considering the Crate V50-112 or some other amp without a lot of effects, and running my pedals through the clean channel. I really have no clue what to do though. Also, I'd be open to maybe getting a bridge humbucker, but that's another area completely.

So, should I go with a digital modeling amp like the Cube 30, or go another direction and get a tube without many effects? Any other suggestions will be welcome.
#2
The Crate can't really get heavey and the Boss will kill any of it's natural tone.

The cube is perfect for you and will have plenty of gain so you won't need the MT-2

Just make sure to get 30w or higher for the cube series
#3
Let me preface this by saying props on the PhD.

I'd recommend the Vox Valvetronix amps. People bash on them a lot for their high gain, but with adjustments and an overdrive pedal I get a pretty sweet metal tone. They're hybrid, so it's sort of tube, and pretty affordable.
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#4
Does the strat not have 5 way switching and a reverse polarity middle pickup thus in switch positions 2 & 4 it's humbucking?

Anyway, the cube is the best way to go. Sell on the MT-2.

I would elaborate but i'm really tired.

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#5
I would suggest the Black Heart combo tube amp. I got min efor 300.

If you have all of those pedals, no sense in getting a modelling amp. Most people will tell you to stay away from modelling amps.
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#6
Quote by dustyboy316
I would suggest the Black Heart combo tube amp. I got min efor 300.

If you have all of those pedals, no sense in getting a modelling amp. Most people will tell you to stay away from modelling amps.


Actually i'm an idiot, this is a much better idea.

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'05 Fender Speed Shop So-Cal Stratocaster
'95 Squier Standard Strat

OLP MM1
Washburn X200v Pro

Tanglewood TW145-SC
Yamaha C40

Orange Dark Terror + PPC212
Jet City JCA20H + JCA24S
#7
Quote by Madsalty
Does the strat not have 5 way switching and a reverse polarity middle pickup thus in switch positions 2 & 4 it's humbucking?

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Yes, you can get a humbucker effect when you're in between pickups. But I find that only the bridge pickup gives me the crunchy sound I'm really looking for. Even bridge + middle sounds a little too mellow for me
#8
The Blackheart looks like a possibility and I hadn't heard of that before, so thanks. Amazon.com has it for $279.99. You were referring to the 5 watt one right?
#9
Go out and try the cube 30x on the r-fier setting, it should do metal much better than your metalzone pedal.
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#10
Somebody on CL is selling a Peavey Classic 30 112 for 275. I inquired but haven't heard back. I'd need to keep my pedal for this thing right?
#11
Quote by PublickStews
Somebody on CL is selling a Peavey Classic 30 112 for 275. I inquired but haven't heard back. I'd need to keep my pedal for this thing right?



That's a steal. Grab it. Keep your pedals. If you can, that is.
#12
Quote by mcrfobtai
The Crate can't really get heavey and the Boss will kill any of it's natural tone.

The cube is perfect for you and will have plenty of gain so you won't need the MT-2

Just make sure to get 30w or higher for the cube series


+1

also good luck in your phd.
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#13
OK - like someone else said earlier, BIG respect on getting your PhD man, awesome.

Firstly I have as my amps a Roland Cube 30X and as a practice amp I have to say it is one of the top in it's class. I also have a Laney TT50 Combo (all tube). Now I would invariably point in the direction of a tube amp, suggestions which have already appeared such as the Blackheart and Peavey Classic would be ideal purchases and you can run your pedals through them with great joy. Also ones to look out for are the Epiphone Valve Junior / Senior, and maybe a Fender Blues Junior.

However, I would also suggest a Line6 Flextone III - this is due to the fact that you mentioned you wouldn't be gigging. It is a great modelling amp with good cleans (even though you won't worry about that). The Spider series by said company gets a lot of stick. But this amp (and upwards) are totally worth their price. At the end of the day if you ever did start gigging you could plug straight into the PA with this amp or keep it as your practice rig and invest in a tube amp down the line / should you feel the need.

Congratz on a good job and happy hunting
#16
Well my Ph.D. is in history so even if I get a job I'm not going to be making a ton of money. Also even if I do land one I'll still be living in an apartment and figured a 5150 combo would be overkill
#18
Well, I was a day late on the Peavey Classic. I'm definitely leaning towards selling the MT-2 and getting the Cube 30x. I guess this will serve as one last bump until the weekend. Part of me wants to just keep playing on my shit amp since I'm not good enough to deserve a better one, and save up for something better LOL
#19
I'd skip the Blackheart and Peavey. They're really not metal or hardcore type of amps, not on their own.

The Cube is a good option, thought personally, I'd go up for the 60, just to have the option of being loud enough to play with a drummer.

I'm also going to second the used Line 6 Flextone III. Great modeling amp, I prefer it to the Cube. My buddy just picked up a used on for 250 bucks, though I see them go for closer to 350-400 on craigslist.org usually.
#20
Quote by PublickStews
Well my Ph.D. is in history so even if I get a job I'm not going to be making a ton of money. Also even if I do land one I'll still be living in an apartment and figured a 5150 combo would be overkill

It's not. And if you play mostly metal, get it. Seriously. I use a 6505 combo for bedroom playing and it sounds great. I use a couple of different overdrive pedals for quality sounding tones at a bedroom volume. I love this amp. It is truely "my tone". The Peavey Triple X is also a bad ass amp, they can be found fairly cheap used in both combo and head form. The Peavey Vypyr is also a KILLER practice amp. MUCH better than the Cube's everybody else is recommending.