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As my fellow residents of the U.K. obviously know, theres been alot of controversy lately over the Brand/Ross prank phone calls. For non U.K. residents who don't know about it, comedians Russel Brand and Jonathon Ross left "obscene" messages on actor Andrew Sachs voicelmail (link here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7IHJ66wj9g)

Now, Jeremy Clarkson, who presents Top Gear, has come under fire for his joke about truck drivers. This isn't the first time he's caused controversy, but the reaction is especially fierce this time.

And he's not the only one, as comedian Frankie Boyle also came under attack for a joke about the Queen.

Now personally, while I thought the Ross/Brand phone call was tasteless (yet somewhat amusing when I heard the audio of it), these new complaints are starting to get ridiculous, and I fear the BBC is starting to get touchy. I believe this could muzzle risque comedy and even clamp on free speech, which would of course be disgusting.

And even before the Ross/Brand storm I had a feeling people were complaining to Ofcom just a little too much (pretty much after every episode of Top Gear for example) and that certain parts of the media were becoming rather "anti-smut" and self righteous.

Anyway pit what do you think?
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#2
Answer?

All of the media should be censored.
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#3
I think the prank call is directly harassing an individual and is crossing the line. I think the other jokes are ok though.

I'll add that I like Frankie Boyle muchly.
#5
The Jeremy Clarkson and Frankie Boyle things are over the top.

When comedy is offensive to someones face then i think that is a different matter.
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The Jeremy Clarkson and Frankie Boyle things are over the top.

When comedy is offensive to someones face then i think that is a different matter.



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#7
I think its pathetic. I also don't like how people resign left, right and centre. Although I dont think this particular situation is worth of resignations, I find it very frustrating when people resign and dont take responsibility, its very annoying. This has gone too far ad is only fueled by the media of this country. Sachs wasnt even that bothered, I think he would rather stick with the comments left and not see an apology than have to put up with the media hounds reminding of it. There are some true wimps in this nation, the BBC is one of them.
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#10
Invading other peoples privacy is not on

but news papers and hello magazing etc are doing it far worse that Russle Brand and Jonathon Ross has ever done

people are only complaining about Clarkson because of the prank call episode, they just feel they should and are getting all self rightous, its f**king retarded, Clarkson was just making a passing comment, I very much doubt he belives in what he was saying.




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typical.

most americans don't know what is happening in their own country let alone the rest of the world.
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typical.

most americans don't know what is happening in their own country let alone the rest of the world.



Fuck off. Sorry I don't watch British television and news programs. Get out of your own 'arse'.
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Fuck off. Sorry I don't watch British television and news programs. Get out of your own 'arse'.


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#16
the prank phone call thing I can understand because that was direct harassment, the other ones though...
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OH GOD! Not Top Gear.

They better not fuck with it.

they wouldnt dare its by far there most watched program
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#19
the media's blown everything way outta proportion there only jokin every1 else gets it, why can't they:P anything for a good story
#20
I think they should bleep out every third word on TV for a week as to not risk offending anyone and see how many people complain then.
#21
Jonathon Ross and Russell Brand did take it a bit far by publically humilating a man and his grand-daughter, if you were in Andrew Sachz shoes, how would you feel about an unfunny, squeaky voiced prick phoning you up and leaving messages saying they slept with your grand-daughter? I sure as hell would not be laughing.

However, as always, if something like this happens then every other comedian comes under fire for their comments and it's a bit unfair. Frankie Boyle has ALWAYS been harsh with his material, and only now he's been criticised? A load of bullshit, IMO
#22
Media has always broken ground and should continue to do so. People need to assess what offends them, if things like this do, they need a sense of perspective,
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I'd gladly censor all media heavily, just to see that piece of shit die away.

But anyway, I hate this complaining culture we've sunk into recently, people are now saying Clarkson should lose his jobe becuse of the 'kill and prostitute' jokes, it's absurd. I always thought we British were kings of the 'grin and bear it' attitude, where we wouldn't complain.
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The only reason they're making such a big thing over these stories is to hide the economic balls up that has blessed our country.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7707641.stm

Clarkson's joke, made before the watershed, has now sparked 517 complaints.

But a BBC spokesman said that by Monday morning - before the incident had been reported on by newspapers and websites - there had been 188 complaints.

Sunday's programme, which aired on BBC Two at 2000 GMT, was watched by around seven million viewers.


How mindless can you be to complain about something a day later, and after newspapers report on it?
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I think the funniest type of comedy is the type where the punchline is followed by: "hahaha oooooooh".. that stuff is usually funnier. its always funnier when u laugh at times, or things ure not supposed to laugh at

on topic: I think its stupid.. andrew sachs came out and sed "yeah they made a mistake, but they shouldnt quit" which is true.. fooking bbc being dicks.
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#29
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I think I live in America and don't care.
Well your television is already massively over-censored. It'd be nice if we didn't end up the same way.
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Well your television is already massively over-censored. It'd be nice if we didn't end up the same way.


Having watched British television quite a bit, I have to say that there really isn't much of a difference as far as censorship is concerned, except for the British being a little more relaxed with nudity, and even that is starting to change.
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Having watched British television quite a bit, I have to say that there really isn't much of a difference as far as censorship is concerned, except for the British being a little more relaxed with nudity, and even that is starting to change.


You ever watched Frankie Boyle?

A TV show at 11 in the morning involved him making fun of a terrorist attack on Glasgow and the near-death of one of the BBCs most popular hosts... In the same joke.

I don't think the crew were too impressed
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You ever watched Frankie Boyle?

A TV show at 11 in the morning involved him making fun of a terrorist attack on Glasgow and the near-death of one of the BBCs most popular hosts... In the same joke.

I don't think the crew were too impressed


That probably wouldn't be censored here (depends on what channel it's on)
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Having watched British television quite a bit, I have to say that there really isn't much of a difference as far as censorship is concerned, except for the British being a little more relaxed with nudity, and even that is starting to change.


Not really true, you can say 'fuck' from 9pm onwards, 'cunt' from 10, although it varies from channel to channel. You can show pretty graphic violence - anyone see Dead Set last week? And quite a lot of nudity. In those regards, British TV is quite liberal, but it'e becoming more restrictive in terms of who you can or can't offend.
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Not really true, you can say 'fuck' from 9pm onwards, 'cunt' from 10, although it varies from channel to channel. You can show pretty graphic violence - anyone see Dead Set last week? And quite a lot of nudity. In those regards, British TV is quite liberal, but it'e becoming more restrictive in terms of who you can or can't offend.


on cable you can say whatever you want, but the networks usually censor it because they don't want to offend corporate sponsors. The government has no regulation of cable TV whatsoever.
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on cable you can say whatever you want, but the networks usually censor it because they don't want to offend corporate sponsors. The government has no regulation of cable TV whatsoever.


Yeah, but you have to pay for cable, that doesn't count as the mainstream TV. Also, sponsors and advertising companies don't have nearly as much power here as they do in America. The government doesn't have any control over the telly here, either; if they did, why would they let offensive satire like Have I Got News For You or Mock The Week (even though that's shit) on air?

I remember reading about Bill Hicks getting his set edited out of Letterman at the 11th hour, because he made a pro-life joke, and The Letterman show was sponsored by a pro-life campaign.
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#36
The thing that I feel is ludicrous is that most people in Britain are more worried about nudity in the media than pointless violence.
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Yeah, but you have to pay for cable, that doesn't count as the mainstream TV. Also, sponsors and advertising companies don't have nearly as much power here as they do in America. The government doesn't have any control over the telly here, either; if they did, why would they let offensive satire like Have I Got News For You or Mock The Week (even though that's shit) on air?

I remember reading about Bill Hicks getting his set edited out of Letterman at the 11th hour, because he made a pro-life joke, and The Letterman show was sponsored by a pro-life campaign.


It does really count as mainstream TV here since it costs less than a Btitish TV license (for basic service) and damn near everyone has it.
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#38
well, it isn't america, so, you know... and yeah. So, good luck with that.
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I have a bigger problem with the fact that I think Russel Brand isn't funny and that Andrew Sachs was, so I'll hate him for that.
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